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Does anybody know Buddy Guy's setup? He plays a
strat, but which pickup does he use, and what
kind/gauge of strings? He has this really nice,
mellow, bell-like sound that just tears at your
soul (e.g. "Five Long Years"), completely
different from the shrill, irritating,
whistle-like screeching of BB King's Lucille.

I figure he must be using the neck pickup,
with .11 or .12's....????

Ron M.

Tom Jaffe

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That's funny. I always found Buddy Guy's playing to be the most shrill, irritating thing I
have ever heard (and his voice has a similar "quality"). B.B. is the most tasteful,
melodic blues guitarist I have ever heard, with the world's greatest vibrato. To each his
own, I guess.

Zorro

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"ref" <r...@sullivan.realtime.net> wrote in message
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> Does anybody know Buddy Guy's setup? He plays a
> strat, but which pickup does he use, and what
> kind/gauge of strings? He has this really nice,
> mellow, bell-like sound that just tears at your
> soul (e.g. "Five Long Years"), completely
> different from the shrill, irritating,
> whistle-like screeching of BB King's Lucille.
>
> I figure he must be using the neck pickup,
> with .11 or .12's....????
>
> Ron M.

He uses the Fender Buddy Guy Signature Strat with Lace Sensors.
It's jsut about the same guitar as a Clapton Strat. I don't know what
string gauge he uses..he may go heavy and tune down ....

He used to use a Marshall half-stack, but I don't know what he
is using these days for amps

Zorro

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"Tom Jaffe" <tja...@eesjobs.com> wrote in message
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> That's funny. I always found Buddy Guy's playing to be the most shrill,
irritating thing I
> have ever heard (and his voice has a similar "quality"). B.B. is the most
tasteful,
> melodic blues guitarist I have ever heard, with the world's greatest
vibrato. To each his
> own, I guess.


Clapton once said that Guy was the best .....for what THAT is worth.


Robert Barker

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IIRC, Victoria Amps have a 'Buddy Guy' model, so maybe he switched (ouch) !
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Dan Stanley

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Hendix was a big Buddy Guy booster, too. When Buddy Guy isn't showboating he
can really tear it up. When he's showboating, he's a fun guy to see. Either
way is good by me.

If you haven't heard it, find yourself a copy of Junior Wells' "Hoodoo Man
Blues". Tremendous stuff.

Dan

tvaug...@my-deja.com

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When I saw him last year at the 9:30 club in DC, he had two of those
monster 80-watt Vickys. They sounded like they were cranked because his
stage volume was tremendous. I don't remember seeing a mike on them.
Everthing else was going through the PA which was moderately loud, but
Buddy filled up the entire club (I'm guessing 500 people) with those
beasts.

It was obnoxious how loud he was, but it was a great show. I guess you
can get away with that only if you're Buddy Guy. He was very gracious
to his sideman, Scott Holt. Buddy left the stage and let him lead the
band through three tunes. Good stuff.

Tom
www.deadpres.com

In article <1B1C5.11058$Hp3.2...@news1.rdc1.ne.home.com>,


"Robert Barker" <rwba...@home.com> wrote:
> IIRC, Victoria Amps have a 'Buddy Guy' model, so maybe he switched
(ouch) !

> "Zorro" <Zorr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> >
> > "ref" <r...@sullivan.realtime.net> wrote in message
> > news:8ra4s8$2i3a$1...@sullivan.realtime.net...
> > > Does anybody know Buddy Guy's setup? He plays a
> > > strat, but which pickup does he use, and what
> > > kind/gauge of strings? He has this really nice,
> > > mellow, bell-like sound that just tears at your
> > > soul (e.g. "Five Long Years"), completely
> > > different from the shrill, irritating,
> > > whistle-like screeching of BB King's Lucille.
> > >
> > > I figure he must be using the neck pickup,
> > > with .11 or .12's....????
> > >
> > > Ron M.
> >
> > He uses the Fender Buddy Guy Signature Strat with Lace Sensors.
> > It's jsut about the same guitar as a Clapton Strat. I don't know
what
> > string gauge he uses..he may go heavy and tune down ....
> >
> > He used to use a Marshall half-stack, but I don't know what he
> > is using these days for amps
> >
> >
>
>


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Pete Kerezman

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"Zorro" <Zorr...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Clapton once said that Guy was the best .....for what THAT is worth.
>

Okay... okay... i know this. It is worth one person's opinion which
is worth exactly the same as any other person's opinion.

We should consider oursevles very lucky to be able to witness
pioneers of the electric blues king and guy at work. They're living
pieces of history, beyond music, and the concept of "best" can't apply
here.

I'll always wonder where luther allison would have taken the
electric blues had he not died young, since he had one foot in the
tradition but he didn't seem to be bound by it. He wasn't "best"
either, but he seemed to be going somewhere with blues music. I think
it would've been nice to know where that might have turned out to be.

At this point BB King and Buddy Guy are doing far too well by being
their own respective "industries" to mess with taking the music
anyplace new. As it should be, i suppose. If anybody earned it they
did. I don't like to imagine the dues they must have paid.

Now, what the heck kind of rig does buddy play through?

Texas Pete
Pete Kerezman (pete...@aol.com)

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In article <8ra4s8$2i3a$1...@sullivan.realtime.net>,

r...@sullivan.realtime.net (ref) wrote:
> Does anybody know Buddy Guy's setup? He plays a
> strat, but which pickup does he use, and what
> kind/gauge of strings? He has this really nice,
> mellow, bell-like sound that just tears at your
> soul (e.g. "Five Long Years"), completely
> different from the shrill, irritating,
> whistle-like screeching of BB King's Lucille.


Jesus, are we talking about the same guy? I've seen Buddy several
times, and he has to have one of the rudest, most in your face guitar
tones I've ever heard! And I love that! He can bring it down and play
it nice and mellow, but his real thing is just cranking it up and going
for it. You're right, he plays Strats, probably his signature model,
but usually with lace sensor pickups. He used to play thru Marshalls
for a while, but every time I've seen him in the past few years he's
played thru 2 Bassman style amps. I don't think they were Fenders, but
not sure. I think they are made by Kendrick or Victoria. Whatever they
are, they are loud as hell.

As for BB being shrill?? Again, are talking about the same guy? I'll
just assume you are trying to get a rise out of people with that one!

If you get a chance to see Buddy live, check out his back up guitarist,
Scott Holt. Fantastic player. He can come close to stealing the show,
which is a hard thing to do when you're playing in Buddy Guy's band. I
think he has his own records out now, but haven't heard them. Anyway, a
great player, and a nice guy.

Stephane Boucher

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>>>>> "Dan" == Dan Stanley <stan...@tiac.net> writes:

> Hendix was a big Buddy Guy booster, too. When Buddy Guy isn't
> showboating he can really tear it up. When he's showboating, he's a
> fun guy to see. Either way is good by me.

Well, I find that his sound is pretty bad. He ought to ditch those
lace censor pickups.

BTW, Who's Hendix?

Cheers,
--

Brian Shaw

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He's also using a Goldtop these days.

Brian

ref wrote:

> Does anybody know Buddy Guy's setup? He plays a
> strat, but which pickup does he use, and what
> kind/gauge of strings? He has this really nice,
> mellow, bell-like sound that just tears at your
> soul (e.g. "Five Long Years"), completely
> different from the shrill, irritating,
> whistle-like screeching of BB King's Lucille.
>

Dan Stanley

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"Stephane Boucher" <s...@cisco.com> wrote in message
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His call. I guess I kind of agree.

> BTW, Who's Hendix?

Some Canadian, plays lots of Gypsy jazz, I think...


ref

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In article <8racee$prp$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, <zeebu...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>In article <8ra4s8$2i3a$1...@sullivan.realtime.net>,
> r...@sullivan.realtime.net (ref) wrote:
>> Does anybody know Buddy Guy's setup? He plays a
>> strat, but which pickup does he use, and what
>> kind/gauge of strings? He has this really nice,
>> mellow, bell-like sound that just tears at your
>> soul (e.g. "Five Long Years"), completely
>> different from the shrill, irritating,
>> whistle-like screeching of BB King's Lucille.
>
>
>Jesus, are we talking about the same guy? I've seen Buddy several
>times, and he has to have one of the rudest, most in your face guitar
>tones I've ever heard! And I love that! He can bring it down and play
>
>As for BB being shrill?? Again, are talking about the same guy? I'll
>just assume you are trying to get a rise out of people with that one!

Jeez, didn't know I would get this kind of response. I've been
listening to a lot of both Guy and BB the last couple of weeks,
and this is just what I've noticed. Guy can and does produce some raunchy
stuff when it's called for, yes, but a lot of his work is also
smooth and mellow. It seems like King, on the other hand,
ALWAYS sounds so high-pitched and screechy, it sounds like
somebody whistling.

Again, listen to Guy's "Five Long Years" as an example. Then
almost anything by King. Thrill is Gone, whatever. Hell, it
sounds like the theme from Lassie....

I'm basically burned out on BB. Sure, he's a God and all
that, and I appreciate what he's done for the guitar and for
the blues, and I know he's a super-nice guy, but in the end,
it all comes down to what's coming out of your stereo
speaker. And lately, I end up taking a BB album out before
its finished. I just get tired of that "wee-wee-weeee~~~~eee"
over and over and over.

Sure, he pioneered that vibrato, and it's politically correct
to say BB has "that great vibrato," but it's not that great,
it's just a vibrato, for heaven's sakes.

Ron M.


ryanm

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> I'm basically burned out on BB. Sure, he's a God and all
> that, and I appreciate what he's done for the guitar and for
> the blues, and I know he's a super-nice guy, but in the end,
> it all comes down to what's coming out of your stereo
> speaker. And lately, I end up taking a BB album out before
> its finished. I just get tired of that "wee-wee-weeee~~~~eee"
> over and over and over.
>
8^O

Maybe you need a better stereo! ;-)

> Sure, he pioneered that vibrato, and it's politically correct
> to say BB has "that great vibrato," but it's not that great,
> it's just a vibrato, for heaven's sakes.
>

Sacrelige!!! You'll go to hell for that!

ryanm

Odin

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"ref" <r...@sullivan.realtime.net> wrote in message

> It seems like King, on the other hand,


> ALWAYS sounds so high-pitched and screechy, it sounds like
> somebody whistling.

Is today "opposite day"? BB King has a fat, thick tone, never "screechy".
maybe you aren't sure what a fat tone or a screechy tone sounds like. Buddy
Guy has recorded some of the most harsh, screechy tones ever recorded. I
like both players, and I'm not particularly a fan of either's tone, but you
seem to have the fundamentals confused.

> Again, listen to Guy's "Five Long Years" as an example. Then
> almost anything by King. Thrill is Gone, whatever. Hell, it
> sounds like the theme from Lassie....

Are you talking about BB King or Albert King?

> I'm basically burned out on BB. Sure, he's a God and all
> that, and I appreciate what he's done for the guitar and for
> the blues, and I know he's a super-nice guy, but in the end,
> it all comes down to what's coming out of your stereo
> speaker.

Your stereo is broken

> And lately, I end up taking a BB album out before
> its finished. I just get tired of that "wee-wee-weeee~~~~eee"
> over and over and over.

Are you referring to the fact that BB frequently plays a note an octave
above the scale he's riffing in? That is a BB King "signature", but the
fact that it is a higher pitched note doesn't make it shrill.

> Sure, he pioneered that vibrato, and it's politically correct
> to say BB has "that great vibrato,"

No it isn't. It's true.

> but it's not that great,

Yes it is.

> it's just a vibrato, for heaven's sakes.

It's *the* vibrato. BB King's vibrato is "just a vibrato" like a Rolls
Royce is "just a car".


b_watson

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Try this site, they have loads of setups.... http://www.guitargeek.com/
Brian.


ref <r...@sullivan.realtime.net> wrote in message

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> Does anybody know Buddy Guy's setup? He plays a
> strat, but which pickup does he use, and what
> kind/gauge of strings? He has this really nice,
> mellow, bell-like sound that just tears at your
> soul (e.g. "Five Long Years"), completely
> different from the shrill, irritating,
> whistle-like screeching of BB King's Lucille.
>

> I figure he must be using the neck pickup,
> with .11 or .12's....????
>

> Ron M.Try this site, they have loads of setups....
http://www.guitargeek.com/
Brian.


ref <r...@sullivan.realtime.net> wrote in message

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> Does anybody know Buddy Guy's setup? He plays a
> strat, but which pickup does he use, and what
> kind/gauge of strings? He has this really nice,
> mellow, bell-like sound that just tears at your
> soul (e.g. "Five Long Years"), completely
> different from the shrill, irritating,
> whistle-like screeching of BB King's Lucille.
>

S. Hart

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On 2 Oct 2000 09:08:08 -0500, r...@sullivan.realtime.net
(ref) wrote:

>Does anybody know Buddy Guy's setup? He plays a
>strat, but which pickup does he use,

Gold Lace Sensors.

>and what kind/gauge of strings?

.010 gauge. He used to endorse Ernie Ball strings, but I
don't know if he still does.

>He has this really nice,
>mellow, bell-like sound that just tears at your
>soul (e.g. "Five Long Years"), completely
>different from the shrill, irritating,
>whistle-like screeching of BB King's Lucille.

That's a first.

>I figure he must be using the neck pickup,

I think he spends a lot of time in between.

Mike Sandler

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"Brian Shaw" <b-s...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> He's also using a Goldtop these days.

Yeah, when I saw him just a few days ago he played the Les Paul the whole
time except when he broke a string. Then a roadie brought out a polka-dot
Strat, but as soon as the Les was repaired he went back to it.

Mike Sandler


Stephane Boucher

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>>>>> "M" == M i c C u l l e n <nos...@cross.com.au> writes:

> And his bending!! Never gets it right.

If you refer to his overbending, I think it's on purpose.

--

the_tro...@my-deja.com

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I think his setup was covered in Guitar Player a few years back. He
uses .009's and extremely low action. I seem to remember that he keeps
his neck ruler straight (no relief) as well.....

jb

In article <1fsitr7...@stb-u10.cisco.com>,

S. Hart

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On Thu, 05 Oct 2000 16:52:04 +0800, M i c C u l l e n
<nos...@cross.com.au> wrote:

>Tom Jaffe <tja...@eesjobs.com>, far, far away from here, appears to have
>written:
>
>[snips]


>
>> That's funny. I always found Buddy Guy's playing to be the most shrill, irritating thing I
>> have ever heard (and his voice has a similar "quality").
>

>And his bending!! Never gets it right.

You'd think after 50 years or so of playing professionally
he'd be hitting the pitch he wants...

pcmg

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On 2 Oct 2000 09:08:08 -0500, r...@sullivan.realtime.net (ref) wrote:

>Does anybody know Buddy Guy's setup? He plays a

>strat, but which pickup does he use, and what
>kind/gauge of strings? He has this really nice,


>mellow, bell-like sound that just tears at your
>soul (e.g. "Five Long Years"), completely
>different from the shrill, irritating,
>whistle-like screeching of BB King's Lucille.
>

>I figure he must be using the neck pickup,

>with .11 or .12's....????
>
>Ron M.

Do you know what he thinks about you
white boy?

Something to think about

Not A Speck Of Cereal

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So Stephane Boucher <s...@cisco.com> wuz saying::
[] >>>>> "M" == M i c C u l l e n <nos...@cross.com.au> writes:
[]
[] > And his bending!! Never gets it right.
[]
[] If you refer to his overbending, I think it's on purpose.

Yeah, Moik prolly knows that--he's just mocking Carl, who never
understood the over-bend thing

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Bill Barnard

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I know that he is an endorser for Fender, but when I saw him last week at
the House of Blues as part of the BB King Blues Festival he played a gold
top Les Paul the entire night. And still sounded just like Buddy Guy!


pcmg wrote in message <39dd554...@news.thew.net>...

Bill Barnard

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I know that he is an endorser for Fender, but when I saw him last week at
the House of Blues as part of the BB King Blues Festival he played a gold
top Les Paul the entire night. And still sounded just like Buddy Guy!


pcmg wrote in message <39dd554...@news.thew.net>...

Mike Sandler

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"Bill Barnard" <wrba...@NOBESPAMMINmactec.com> wrote in message
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> I know that he is an endorser for Fender, but when I saw him last week at
> the House of Blues as part of the BB King Blues Festival he played a gold
> top Les Paul the entire night. And still sounded just like Buddy Guy!

Hey, Bill! Glad to see you back. I don't know if you have been reading this
thread or if you just now jumped back in, but he did the same thing at
Walnut Creek. Goldtop the whole time except when he broke a string.

Mike Sandler

ps, you get that turnaround?

Bill Barnard

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I know that he is an endorser for Fender, but when I saw him last week at
the House of Blues as part of the BB King Blues Festival he played a gold
top Les Paul the entire night. And still sounded just like Buddy Guy!

pcmg wrote in message <39dd554...@news.thew.net>...

SubRock

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>Subject: Re: BUDDY GUY - anybody know his setup???
>From: "Mike Sandler"


>Hey, Bill! Glad to see you back. I don't know if you have been reading this
thread or if you just now jumped back in, but he did the same thing at Walnut
Creek. Goldtop the whole time except when he broke a string.
>Mike Sandler

Walnut Creek Ampitheater in Raleigh, NC?

Peace,
Jason
http://www.geocities.com/SubRock_1

Bill Barnard

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I'm back intermittently. It is sometimes difficult to get on with this free
account that I've got here in G'ville.

Bill
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>
> "Bill Barnard" <wrba...@NOBESPAMMINmactec.com> wrote in message
> news:8rne0b$20ia$1...@spnode25.nerdc.ufl.edu...

> > I know that he is an endorser for Fender, but when I saw him last week
at
> > the House of Blues as part of the BB King Blues Festival he played a
gold
> > top Les Paul the entire night. And still sounded just like Buddy Guy!
>

> Hey, Bill! Glad to see you back. I don't know if you have been reading
this
> thread or if you just now jumped back in, but he did the same thing at
> Walnut Creek. Goldtop the whole time except when he broke a string.
>
> Mike Sandler
>

TThomas680

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I saw Buddy G in Dallas in Sept or Oct & he played the Gibson & a strat.

C Long

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I believe that he is partial to Fender Bassmans and Victoria amps. He also
uses an Octavia box.
Chip
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