Dickey Betts '57 Les Paul Goldtop
Polfus
http://www.gibson.com/cgi-bin/custom.cgi?id=222
Peace,
Polfus
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François
Vladimir Antunovic
what this newsgroup is about. Caring about things related to guitars.
That's why we come here.
Vladimir.
Giri Iyengar
renown vintage restoration .......
Why the quotes around that word? So it's not REALLY aged but
they only pretend to age it? So it's like fake fake aging?
WHAT THE HELL?
..Giri
Ron Thompson
Just send them yer 8thousand dollars and shut yer piehole.
--
rct
The opinions above are mine and mine alone.
howldog
wrote:
>>So it's like fake fake aging?
no, thats the Phyllis Diller Queen of the Undead Gibson LesPaul
Dan Stanley
"howldog" <how...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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There is a Steve Howe sig ES-135 ( or whatever the hell it is), and the
picture that accompanies it on some page I saw makes Steve look not
un-Phyllis-like. Seriously freaked me out.
Which is not to take anything away from his skills as a guitarist, or his
worthiness as a sig guitar honoree.
Just the picture was kinda ooky.
Dan
Steve Wachowski
>
> Giri Iyengar wrote:
> >
> > The website says: Each of these special guitars is hand "aged" by
> > renown vintage restoration .......
> >
> > Why the quotes around that word? So it's not REALLY aged but
> > they only pretend to age it? So it's like fake fake aging?
> >
> > WHAT THE HELL?
>
> Just send them yer 8thousand dollars and shut yer piehole.
Damn, for $8K I hope to hell Dickey Betts comes along with it to play it
for you!
pfcollen
"Polfus" <pol...@aol.comREMOVE> wrote in message
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So wat is so great about this, besides coming with two (count 'em, two)
cases ?
Just another LP Goldtop, AFAIC.
pfcollen
"François" <francois.me...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Who cares?
What's in a name ? Just another LP Standard Gold-top. Dickey sure wouldn't
pay extra for it. The 'gator case is the
best part of the 'package'.
Polfus
>From: "pfcollen" pfco...@email.msn.com
>What's in a name ? Just another LP Standard Gold-top. Dickey sure wouldn't
pay extra for it.>
Hey, dumbass Pat Collen:
He is using one now, and it was given to him by the Gibson Custom Shop..it's
the prototype. And it is *NOT* "...just another LP Standard Gold-top."
Peace,
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Robb Scott
pol...@aol.comREMOVE (Polfus) wrote:
> He is using one now, and it was given to him by the Gibson Custom Shop..it's
> the prototype. And it is *NOT* "...just another LP Standard Gold-top."
What's different about it?
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Dan Stanley
"Polfus" <pol...@aol.comREMOVE> wrote in message
> >Subject: Re: Dickey Betts '57 Les Paul Goldtop
> >From: "pfcollen" pfco...@email.msn.com
>
> >What's in a name ? Just another LP Standard Gold-top. Dickey sure
wouldn't
> pay extra for it.>
>
> Hey, dumbass Pat Collen:
>
> He is using one now, and it was given to him by the Gibson Custom
Shop..it's
> the prototype. And it is *NOT* "...just another LP Standard Gold-top."
No, it's *ULTRA* aged.
But it ain't based on Goldie, it's just a '57 Reissue Aged Classic Historic
Brougham with a few more minutes in the Gibson Laundry Tumbler.
HOWEVER, they ARE going to make one based on Goldie, but, and this is the
part that makes me realize that Gibson is being run by, at best, an
intelligent form of moss, it won't be a Goldtop.
I know. Divide by zero error, right? Me too.
I wonder how Thompson feels about this? I'm afraid to ask.
Dan
Polfus
>He is using one now, and it was given to him by the Gibson Custom
Shop..it's the prototype. And it is *NOT* "...just another LP Standard
Gold-top.">
>What's different about it?
......
Peace,
Polfus
http://www.geocities.com/PolfusPage
Polfus
>He is using one now, and it was given to him by the Gibson Custom
Shop..it's the prototype. And it is *NOT* "...just another LP Standard
Gold-top.">
>No, it's *ULTRA* aged.
So are you saying it *is* just another LP Standard Goldtop?
>But it ain't based on Goldie, it's just a '57 Reissue Aged Classic Historic
Brougham with a few more minutes in the Gibson Laundry Tumbler.>
That would be Tom Murphy's process you refer to. Ask JoeBac..he knows a thing
or three about Les Pauls.
>HOWEVER, they ARE going to make one based on Goldie, but, and this is the part
that makes me realize that Gibson is being run by, at best, an intelligent form
of moss, it won't be a Goldtop.>
WHAT are you talking about?
Peace,
Polfus
http://www.geocities.com/PolfusPage
Robb Scott
pol...@aol.comREMOVE (Polfus) wrote:
> >Subject: Re: Dickey Betts '57 Les Paul Goldtop
> >From: "Dan Stanley"
> >HOWEVER, they ARE going to make one based on Goldie, but, and this is
the part
> that makes me realize that Gibson is being run by, at best, an
intelligent form
> of moss, it won't be a Goldtop.>
>
> WHAT are you talking about?
He's mocking you. He does that to me too. It's an endearment. I think.
So I think I missed a post here somewhere - what's the difference between
the Betts Goldtop and a regular Custom Shop Gold Top?
Ron Thompson
>
> "Polfus" <pol...@aol.comREMOVE> wrote in message
> news:20010807200148...@ng-cg1.aol.com..
> > >From: "pfcollen" pfco...@email.msn.com
> >
> > >What's in a name ? Just another LP Standard Gold-top. Dickey sure
> wouldn't
> > pay extra for it.>
> >
> > Hey, dumbass Pat Collen:
> >
> > He is using one now, and it was given to him by the Gibson Custom
> > Shop..it's the prototype. And it is *NOT* "...just another LP Standard Gold-top."
> No, it's *ULTRA* aged.
Like, well, me. For instance.
> But it ain't based on Goldie,
No, not really, it isn't exactly.
> it's just a '57 Reissue Aged Classic Historic Brougham with a few more minutes
> in the Gibson Laundry Tumbler.
Pretty much. But man, them minutes cost some money bro.
> HOWEVER, they ARE going to make one based on Goldie, but, and this is the
> part that makes me realize that Gibson is being run by, at best, an
> intelligent form of moss, it won't be a Goldtop.
No, it won't.
> I know. Divide by zero error, right? Me too.
> I wonder how Thompson feels about this?
Terrible.
> I'm afraid to ask.
Don't be. I'm done yelling about it.
Ron Thompson
>
> >Subject: Re: Dickey Betts '57 Les Paul Goldtop
> >From: "Dan Stanley"
>
> >He is using one now, and it was given to him by the Gibson Custom
> Shop..it's the prototype. And it is *NOT* "...just another LP Standard
> Gold-top.">
>
> >No, it's *ULTRA* aged.
>
> So are you saying it *is* just another LP Standard Goldtop?
No. What he is saying is that it SHOULD be just another '57 Goldtop knockoff.
That's what it SHOULD be. But it isn't.
> >But it ain't based on Goldie, it's just a '57 Reissue Aged Classic Historic
> >Brougham with a few more minutes in the Gibson Laundry Tumbler.>
>
> That would be Tom Murphy's process you refer to. Ask JoeBac..he knows a thing
> or three about Les Pauls.
Anyone can find out/know about Tom Murpys' "process".
> >HOWEVER, they ARE going to make one based on Goldie, but, and this is the part
> that makes me realize that Gibson is being run by, at best, an intelligent form
> of moss, it won't be a Goldtop.>
>
> WHAT are you talking about?
One of his Goldtops got redone by Betts himself. It is red. Nice guitar. They are
going to knock that one off as well. Presumably after they blow all 57 of the other
one out the door.
Ron Thompson
> So I think I missed a post here somewhere - what's the difference between
> the Betts Goldtop and a regular Custom Shop Gold Top?
It will be one of the first "Artist Authentic" guitars. Hand aged by Tom
Murphy. It'll also come with not one, but TWO cases, a Faux Alligator
Hardshell Case and a Vintage Les Paul Case.
Oh, according to Dickey, it'll "sell for around 8 thousand". And there will only
be 57 of them. But that number has been a moving target, it may yet be revised
in a downward direction. Again.
Dan Stanley
"Polfus" <pol...@aol.comREMOVE> wrote in message
> >Subject: Re: Dickey Betts '57 Les Paul Goldtop
> >From: "Dan Stanley"
>
> >He is using one now, and it was given to him by the Gibson Custom
> Shop..it's the prototype. And it is *NOT* "...just another LP Standard
> Gold-top.">
>
> >No, it's *ULTRA* aged.
>
> So are you saying it *is* just another LP Standard Goldtop?
No, I'm saying it is an //*#ULTRA AGED#*\\ Gibson Classic Historic Aged
Limited Deville Brougham Wolfsberg Edition, which is indeed DIFFERENT from a
LP Standard Goldtop, which you can get in any color you want except gold.
> >But it ain't based on Goldie, it's just a '57 Reissue Aged Classic
Historic
> Brougham with a few more minutes in the Gibson Laundry Tumbler.>
>
> That would be Tom Murphy's process you refer to. Ask JoeBac..he knows a
thing
> or three about Les Pauls.
And I know a thing or FOUR about laundry, bro, is all I'm sayin' here.
> >HOWEVER, they ARE going to make one based on Goldie, but, and this is the
part
> that makes me realize that Gibson is being run by, at best, an intelligent
form
> of moss, it won't be a Goldtop.>
>
> WHAT are you talking about?
The red top. Aren't you the Gibson maven here? It is a sad, sad day in rmmg
when I, DANNNNN StanLLLLLLLey, have to fill you in on Gibson's twisted
machinations.
But here goes:
The Dickey Betts sig line will eventually have two models. The first is an
aged 57 reissue ( ultra aged, so, that means "more aged than the other aged
57 reissues").
"We are going to take Goldie to the shop and put the micrometers on it,"
says Rick Gembar, GM of Gibson's Customme Shoppe, " The Dickie Betts red top
will feature all the little things that particular to his instrument."
[Guitar World, Sept. 01]
See, Betts refin'd Goldie a while back, now it is red. So, to sum up, The
Dickey Betts Goldtop is merely an Aged 57 Reissue, aged a little more, but
not at all based on Dickey's famed instrument. But the Dickey Betts red top
WILL be based on "Goldie", but won't be available in a goldtop, because it
will be a red guitar.
Now, how many Betts fans are out there just DYING to spend some hard earned
on cash on a Betts sig goldtop? And what are their options? An ULTRA aged
$8,000 ( list, so that's still 6k out the door) LP with no real connection
to Bett's "Goldie", or a RED guitar that is supposed to be dead on, but
without the gold top?
Miker
news:3B7133...@tc.faa.gov...
> a Faux Alligator Hardshell Case
So why aren't they calling the guitar the "Faux '57 Betts Les Paul"?
Band name! "The Faux 57"
Ron Thompson
> Now, how many Betts fans are out there just DYING to spend some hard earned
> on cash on a Betts sig goldtop?
I was ready to get one, sight unseen.
> And what are their options? An ULTRA aged $8,000 ( list, so that's still 6k out the door)
Not sure on the price. Probably never will be. No ordinary shoppe will have these in
it.
> LP with no real connection to Bett's "Goldie",
Both of Mr. Betts goldtops are about as stock, off the rack, plain old junky 57 Les Pauls
as you can get. Here's a quote, from a fan of Betts that I know pretty well, to the
Fine Folks at Gibson:
"...the f&*&*!g things weren't f%^^&#g ULTRA f@@!#%g AGED when they were f@@&*^g
original you dumb f#@$s".
Use your imagination and you MAY be able to figure out just whom would tell them such
a thing.
> or a RED guitar that is supposed to be dead on, but without the gold top?
In my opinion, we probably won't see that guitar. Once the...uh, 57 first run
Murphys go out the door, they'll lose interest.
Giri Iyengar
Key difference. Instead of aging them, they will 'age'
them, which means they won't really be aged but 'aged'
instead.
Alright?
..Giri
Dan Stanley
> Dan Stanley wrote:
>
> > Now, how many Betts fans are out there just DYING to spend some hard
earned
> > on cash on a Betts sig goldtop?
>
> I was ready to get one, sight unseen.
Me, too. Maybe. Sight unseen is a little strong, but I wouldn't wear my
glasses, so it would be more like "sight kinda blurry". I'd leave my hearing
aid out, too, so I would mostly buy it due to it's silent sound.
> > And what are their options? An ULTRA aged $8,000 ( list, so that's still
6k out the door)
>
> Not sure on the price. Probably never will be. No ordinary shoppe will
have these in
> it.
I think we can agree it will be WAY more than any sane person will spend for
a guitar they really want to play in stinky bars, though.
> > LP with no real connection to Bett's "Goldie",
>
> Both of Mr. Betts goldtops are about as stock, off the rack, plain old
junky 57 Les Pauls
> as you can get. Here's a quote, from a fan of Betts that I know pretty
well, to the
> Fine Folks at Gibson:
>
> "...the f&*&*!g things weren't f%^^&#g ULTRA f@@!#%g AGED when they were
f@@&*^g
> original you dumb f#@$s".
Was it Mullhaupt who said that? Because, you know, Garvin has been faking
his letters to Gibson, as I understand these things.
> Use your imagination and you MAY be able to figure out just whom would
tell them such
> a thing.
Mullhaupt? Someone else? I'm going with Mullhapt, here. It was Mullhaupt,
right? Do I have to phrase my question in the form of an answer?
> > or a RED guitar that is supposed to be dead on, but without the gold
top?
>
> In my opinion, we probably won't see that guitar. Once the...uh, 57 first
run
> Murphys go out the door, they'll lose interest.
Bummer. I just want to say to anyone at Gibson who may be reading this that
I am available for consultation. Here's a freebie, to show I'm sincere:
To match the Betts "red" *gold*TOP*, you should introduce a Duane Allman sig
memorial limited edition torneau top, based upon the Sunburst he used that
is now housed at the Rock and Roll House of Pancakes. You can get the EXACT
measurements ( break out the calipers and the postal scale!), and then
utterly disregard them, and instead introduce a guitar with a AAAAAAA top,
and middle position single coil...might be a good place to re-introduce the
Miii electronics package, or heck, go all the way and install the RD stuff.
$10,000 a pop. Murphy can age them to his hearts content, or maybe he could
learn a new skill set and endeavor to make them look, you know, NEW.
Dan
*FWIW, I don't really mind that there will be a red Betts guitar; after all,
Goldie is indeed now red. Saw Betts play it last Sept, and he sounded and
looked great. But ...there oughta be a gold one, too, is all I'm saying
here, because THAT gold guitar, when it was gold, really belted out the
jams.
Ron Thompson
> > I was ready to get one, sight unseen.
> Me, too. Maybe. Sight unseen is a little strong, but I wouldn't wear my
> glasses, so it would be more like "sight kinda blurry". I'd leave my hearing
> aid out, too, so I would mostly buy it due to it's silent sound.
Heh. Well, I had expected a fairly run-of-the-mill '57 knockoff, as you well
know. Sight unseen would have been fine for me, I've been waiting a very long
time for such a guitar, just having a Betts paul would have been fine, and if
he said it was good, then it would be good whether I thought it was the bomb
or not. But that was when I expected a 3, maybe 3.5k guitar. My expectations
are/were the problem, not Murphy or Gibson or Betts.
> > Not sure on the price. Probably never will be. No ordinary shoppe will
> > have these in it.
> I think we can agree it will be WAY more than any sane person will spend for
> a guitar they really want to play in stinky bars, though.
Yes, I would agree with that. I don't think the thought even crossed their minds
that anyone would actually want to take the thing out and use it. I think they
went straight for the Harley buyers this time. Like other times, other guitars.
>> "...the f&*&*!g things weren't f%^^&#g ULTRA f@@!#%g AGED when they were
>> f@@&*^g original you dumb f#@$s".
> Was it Mullhaupt who said that?
No, I don't think so.
> Because, you know, Garvin has been faking his letters to Gibson, as I understand
> these things.
This particular letter NEEDed Garvin to fake it.
>> Use your imagination and you MAY be able to figure out just whom would
>> tell them such a thing.
> Mullhaupt?
No.
> Someone else?
Yes.
>I'm going with Mullhapt, here.
Don't.
>It was Mullhaupt, right?
No.
>Do I have to phrase my question in the form of an answer?
Yes.
>> In my opinion, we probably won't see that guitar. Once the...uh, 57 first
>> run Murphys go out the door, they'll lose interest.
> Bummer. I just want to say to anyone at Gibson who may be reading this that
> I am available for consultation. Here's a freebie, to show I'm sincere:
This oughtta be good...
> To match the Betts "red" *gold*TOP*, you should introduce a Duane Allman sig
> memorial limited edition torneau top, based upon the Sunburst he used that
> is now housed at the Rock and Roll House of Pancakes. You can get the EXACT
> measurements ( break out the calipers and the postal scale!), and then
> utterly disregard them, and instead introduce a guitar with a AAAAAAA top,
> and middle position single coil...might be a good place to re-introduce the
> Miii electronics package, or heck, go all the way and install the RD stuff.
> $10,000 a pop. Murphy can age them to his hearts content, or maybe he could
> learn a new skill set and endeavor to make them look, you know, NEW.
I think this has a chance.
> *FWIW, I don't really mind that there will be a red Betts guitar; after all,
> Goldie is indeed now red. Saw Betts play it last Sept, and he sounded and
> looked great. But ...there oughta be a gold one, too, is all I'm saying
> here, because THAT gold guitar, when it was gold, really belted out the
> jams.
Yeah, I don't mind the red one either. But the whole "take the calipers to it" and
the little concho shells and belt buckle jack plate and all is just going to push
it straight through the roof, if they even get around to it.
My only problem, based on my expectations, is that Mr. Betts would never, EVer, have
paid, in relative dollars, what they are going to want and get for these things.
He would have taken one off the rack and used it, like his...5 other les pauls.
He used a pair of off-the-rack Japanese strats for quite a few years you know,
only sticking Duncan rails in them, moving the kn0bs around.
It shoulda been a decent '57 knockoff and no more.
Jeff Liberatore
"Giri Iyengar" <giye...@ford.com> wrote in message
news:3B714947...@ford.com...
Could someone please explain the "aging" process again... I'm getting a
little confused... Is it aged by Murphy's hands or by putting the wood in a
dryer... The specifics are important to a person such as myself... Maybe
they should just send it to the Fender Custom Shop and have some "Relics"
made... You know, a Gibson Les Paul, Dickie Betts Model, professionally
"aged" by the Fender Custom Shop Relic Division... That way they could
charge $10,000 for it and Fender and Gibson can resolve their differences in
the process and get the Fender geeks interested as well...
Man, I'm a marketing GENIUS!!!
> Alright?
OK...!
Jeff
>
> ..Giri
Mr. Big
: To match the Betts "red" *gold*TOP*, you should introduce a Duane Allman sig
: memorial limited edition torneau top, based upon the Sunburst he used that
: is now housed at the Rock and Roll House of Pancakes. You can get the EXACT
: measurements ( break out the calipers and the postal scale!), and then
: utterly disregard them, and instead introduce a guitar with a AAAAAAA top,
: and middle position single coil...might be a good place to re-introduce the
: Miii electronics package, or heck, go all the way and install the RD stuff.
: $10,000 a pop. Murphy can age them to his hearts content, or maybe he could
: learn a new skill set and endeavor to make them look, you know, NEW.
DHEWWWWD! You forgot the FLOYD!
Jas.
--
James Andrews
Philadelphia, PA
George4908
>jams.
Till the girls say when.
Polfus
>From: "Jeff Liberatore"
Do dings in your guitar bother you with your PRS? Do you try to protect it when
you take it out and play? Do you wipe your PRS down when it gets grimy?
Peace,
Polfus
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Dan Stanley
"Polfus" <pol...@aol.comREMOVE> wrote in message
> >Subject: Re: You're all wrong (Was: Re: Dickey Betts '57 Les Paul
Goldtop)
> >From: "Jeff Liberatore"
>
> Do dings in your guitar bother you with your PRS? Do you try to protect it
when
> you take it out and play? Do you wipe your PRS down when it gets grimy?
Does your Thorazine lose its flavor on the bedpost over night?
Polfus
>Does your Thorazine lose its flavor on the bedpost over night?
How's the civility campaign going?
Peace,
Polfus
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> How's the civility campaign going?
Last I checked, it was going in all directions at once.
Bet no one saw THAT coming.
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Dan Stanley
"Polfus" <pol...@aol.comREMOVE> wrote in message
> >Subject: Re: You're all wrong (Was: Re: Dickey Betts '57 Les Paul
Goldtop)
> >From: "Dan Stanley"
>
> >Does your Thorazine lose its flavor on the bedpost over night?
>
> How's the civility campaign going?
Swimmingly, thank you.
Jeff Liberatore
"Polfus" <pol...@aol.comREMOVE> wrote in message
> >Subject: Re: You're all wrong (Was: Re: Dickey Betts '57 Les Paul
Goldtop)
> >From: "Jeff Liberatore"
>
> Do dings in your guitar bother you with your PRS?
Unfortunately, yes... Any guitar I buy new bothers me that way... Even if I
didn't have fancy tops.
> Do you try to protect it when
> you take it out and play?
Under the live circumstances, I would say yes... Not too over the top, but
people know NOT to get near them (sound guys,etc), I try the best I can but
I'm realistic too... I did buy them to play, and more often than not I'll
yake ALL 3 to a gig, unless I'm in the mood for my Tele, which is relic'ed
and I don't care if it gets a ding.
> Do you wipe your PRS down when it gets grimy?
Yes, all the time, especially in the summer... I like a smooth feel of the
neck and body and I like to keep the strings as fresh as possible... I eat
strings alive... 2 sets and they're worthless. Sometimes I'll even wipe the
guitar down in between songs. Even in the middle of a song!
Good question... Yes, I'm kind of picky about all things guitar, it's just
that beer and girls can alter normal thinking at times.
Jeff
>
> Peace,
> Polfus
> http://www.geocities.com/PolfusPage
Polfus
>Does your Thorazine lose its flavor on the bedpost over night?
>How's the civility campaign going?
>Swimmingly, thank you.
You keep on thinking that.
Peace,
Polfus
http://www.geocities.com/PolfusPage
Polfus
>From: "Jeff Liberatore"
>Do dings in your guitar bother you with your PRS?
>Unfortunately, yes... Any guitar I buy new bothers me that way... Even if I
didn't have fancy tops.>
What about a PRS that is not new...do dings in your guitar bother you with your
PRSs?
Dings don't bother me...my Les Paul has more than a few now.
> Do you try to protect it when you take it out and play?
>Under the live circumstances, I would say yes... Not too over the top, but
people know NOT to get near them (sound guys,etc), I try the best I can but I'm
realistic too... I did buy them to play, and more often than not I'll take ALL
3 to a gig, unless I'm in the mood for my Tele, which is relic'ed and I don't
care if it gets a ding.>
I couldn't care less about scratches, dings, etc...I play the mess out of my
Les Paul 'cause its fer playin'.
What about when you are playing in other situations too..like at home?
> Do you wipe your PRS down when it gets grimy?
>Yes, all the time, especially in the summer... I like a smooth feel of the
neck and body and I like to keep the strings as fresh as possible...I eat
strings alive... 2 sets and they're worthless. Sometimes I'll even wipe the
guitar down in between songs. Even in the middle of a song!>
My Custom Shop Les Paul is well used now and has dings, dents, scratches, and I
haven't wiped it down in over three months..just the back of the neck is all I
will clean..with the t-shirt I'm wearing usually.
Peace,
Polfus
http://www.geocities.com/PolfusPage
Not A Speck Of Cereal
[...]
[] > Do you wipe your PRS down when it gets grimy?
[]
[] Yes, all the time, especially in the summer... I like a smooth feel of the
[] neck and body and I like to keep the strings as fresh as possible... I eat
[] strings alive... 2 sets and they're worthless. Sometimes I'll even wipe the
[] guitar down in between songs. Even in the middle of a song!
[]
[] Good question... Yes, I'm kind of picky about all things guitar, it's just
[] that beer and girls can alter normal thinking at times.
Not me -- I like to wipe down girls in the middle of the song too.
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Jeff Liberatore
"Polfus" <pol...@aol.comREMOVE> wrote in message
> >Subject: Re: You're all wrong (Was: Re: Dickey Betts '57 Les Paul
Goldtop)
> >From: "Jeff Liberatore"
>
> >Do dings in your guitar bother you with your PRS?
>
> >Unfortunately, yes... Any guitar I buy new bothers me that way... Even if
I
> didn't have fancy tops.>
>
> What about a PRS that is not new...do dings in your guitar bother you with
your
> PRSs?
Only when I can see the wood, which really would be more than a ding or a
surface scratch... So, in retrospect, "superficial" dings and surface
scratches don't really bother me...
> Dings don't bother me...my Les Paul has more than a few now.
Yeah, I was really thinking more on the lines of something more obtrusive...
> > Do you try to protect it when you take it out and play?
>
> >Under the live circumstances, I would say yes... Not too over the top,
but
> people know NOT to get near them (sound guys,etc), I try the best I can
but I'm
> realistic too... I did buy them to play, and more often than not I'll take
ALL
> 3 to a gig, unless I'm in the mood for my Tele, which is relic'ed and I
don't
> care if it gets a ding.>
>
> I couldn't care less about scratches, dings, etc...I play the mess out of
my
> Les Paul 'cause its fer playin'.
Agreed... I still have a few bucks in all of them andwill probably keep them
all, so it's really not that important... But when I got my PERfect SAS,the
soundman knocked a cymbal stand into it and the guitar got more than just a
few surface scratches and was WAY upset when I found out, but I didn't find
out (see it) till the middle of the next week... He claimed he thought he
stopped the cymbal stand before it hit the guitar (I just let it go and
thanked him for his honesty), but he watches EVERY move he makes now around
my stuff... He could not afford to replace ANY of my guitars... So yes, I'm
REALLY paranoid about someone "breaking" one... It's happened to me before
with less valuable guitars and I was still heartbroken... And pissed!
> What about when you are playing in other situations too..like at home?
I take good care as anyone, but I have several friends that are worse than
me! My guitars are always cleaned before I play them.
> > Do you wipe your PRS down when it gets grimy?
>
> >Yes, all the time, especially in the summer... I like a smooth feel of
the
> neck and body and I like to keep the strings as fresh as possible...I eat
> strings alive... 2 sets and they're worthless. Sometimes I'll even wipe
the
> guitar down in between songs. Even in the middle of a song!>
>
> My Custom Shop Les Paul is well used now and has dings, dents, scratches,
and I
> haven't wiped it down in over three months..just the back of the neck is
all I
> will clean..with the t-shirt I'm wearing usually.
Really? There was a time I used to be like that, but now things are
different... I don't like the resistance I get from a sweaty sticky
guitar... I like it to glide and slide with me... Plus, I paid for that
beautiful finish, and high ph levels in your skin can ear thru the finish...
My ph levels are high and I have oily skin... That crud feels terrible to me
and the overall feel of my guitars, gets on the strings and rusts them out
gets on the finish and feels sticky, etc... So I just keep them clean...
Color me weird, but that's my story and I'm "sticking" to it.
Jeff Liberatore
"Not A Speck Of Cereal" <Xchriss...@Xhome.comX> wrote in message
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> As "Jeff Liberatore" <jlib...@columbus.rr.com> so eloquently put:
> [...]
> [] > Do you wipe your PRS down when it gets grimy?
> []
> [] Yes, all the time, especially in the summer... I like a smooth feel of
the
> [] neck and body and I like to keep the strings as fresh as possible... I
eat
> [] strings alive... 2 sets and they're worthless. Sometimes I'll even wipe
the
> [] guitar down in between songs. Even in the middle of a song!
> []
> [] Good question... Yes, I'm kind of picky about all things guitar, it's
just
> [] that beer and girls can alter normal thinking at times.
>
> Not me -- I like to wipe down girls in the middle of the song too.
Well, then there's THAT !!!
Jeff
don-evans
><<snip>>
> My Custom Shop Les Paul is well used now and has dings, dents, scratches, and I
> haven't wiped it down in over three months..just the back of the neck is all I
> will clean..with the t-shirt I'm wearing usually.
>
>
> Peace,
> Polfus
> http://www.geocities.com/PolfusPage
You must be so proud!
François
F.M.
zorro
"Polfus" <pol...@aol.comREMOVE> wrote in message
Has your LP Elegante' lost any weight due to the dings and scratches it has
incurred since you
bought it ? Maybe lighter guage strings can make a difference..try .008's.
Polfus
>Has your LP Elegante' lost any weight due to the dings and scratches it has
incurred since you bought it ? Maybe lighter guage strings can make a
difference..try .008's.>
*You* try 8s..I'll stick with 10s.
Peace,
Polfus
http://www.geocities.com/PolfusPage