Jeff Beck's right hand
Greg
enjoyed it. I was about 11 rows back and also brought my
binoculars...helpful to see what's going on with the hands. I never
realized Beck played without a pick (except for about two tunes). His
right hand technique-IMHO-was amazing...always busy tweaking tone/vol,
pu selector, etc. He seems to rely on the whammy quite a bit, but I
think he works it into his style uniquely...looked like he was wiggling
the bridge with his hand frequently as well. Also gets great nuances of
tone snapping chords at different places in relation to the bridge &
neck. It was refreshing to see something other than run-of-the-mill
technique. Perhaps I'm in the dark, but are there other significant
players that play pickless?
I know his effects (or lack of them) have been discussed here, but from
what I observed he did use some delay (not sure if he switched it or was
added at the board), and pretty sure I heard flange (particularly on one
tune from Wired). I thought on the cd I heard pitch shifting, but after
seeing it live was most likely two guitars.
Greg
jimmyd
>technique. Perhaps I'm in the dark, but are there other significant
>players that play pickless?
Robben Ford plays without a pick frequently. I also play without a
pick to FWIW :-)
Carlginger
>players that play pickless?
>
Even though they play mostly with a pick, Michael Landau and Ray Gomez are two
of the best I ever heard without one.
Carl
Edward DeGenaro
Even though they play mostly with a pick, Michael Landau and Ray Gomez
are two of the best I ever heard without one.
Carl>>>>>>>
Well, there's also a hefty amount of Hendrix stuff, where he palmed the
pick.
Obviously Mark Knopfler and george Benson come to mind. For that matter
wes Montgomery as well.
These days I play about 95% of my stuff without a pick.
Ed
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> These days I play about 95% of my stuff without a pick.
Where's the best place to learn stuff about fingerpicking? Any
specific songs or anything? I'm really interested in it, but take away my
pick, and I'm helpless...
darius
Edward DeGenaro
fingerpicking? Any specific songs or anything? I'm really interested in
it, but take away my pick, and I'm helpless...
darius>>>>
partially off of There And Back.
Knopflers Money For Nothing comes to mind.
However, what I did wasI spend the last 5 years playing hybrid style
with pick and the remaining 3 fingers.
i just got tired of havig a much hipper () tone with the fingers than
with the pick and got rid of it.
There are naturally a few things I can do without a pick...for those I
actually palm it most of the time and then use it and tuck it away
again.
the actual technique I use is alternating between index and thumb for
alternate pickif. Think Steve Morese's chicken picking, for triplet
feels I add the middle finger.
Whenever possible I use the thumb, since it has the largerset dynamic
range I've found. I only ise the fleshy part not the nail. For double
time its that I do wit the thumb I backstrke the string with the nail.
I use the nai on eother the index or middle held pressed against the
thumb as a substitute for a pick when doing tremolo picking stuff.
For arpegios I either fingerpick or use the thumb for a downstroke on
ascending ones. Sometimes I use the thumb except for the highset
note...that I'll catch with either index or middle.
On descending I rake either the calluses of my index or the nail o f my
middle over the strings. Sometimes using the thumb for the lowest note.
That I saw jaco doon bass.
When playing chords I grab tem as "grips".
Funk lines I use the thumb for. Whenever it asks for a little 16th
triplet accent I flicker the middle across the strings.
that's about all.....
Nick V. Flor
finger picker.
I do the exact same thing that you mentioned below, but it always comes out
more muffled than when I use a pick.
- Nick
Edward DeGenaro <NudeG...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Edward DeGenaro
a finger picker.
I do the exact same thing that you mentioned below, but it always comes
out more muffled than when I use a pick.
- Nick >>>>>>
Well, I also have a pretty strong left hand for hammer-os. So when I
need to....lets say tremolo on the B on the 12 fret 2nd string...I use
combo.
i.e. left hammer-on without picking on 3/16 followed by 2 picked notes
(thumb/index) at 2/12. That'llfeel a little awkward in the beginning but
once mastered is real cool. Kinda like a saxplayer would use. As a
matter of fact I ripped it off of Mike Brecker.hehehe
steve...@my-dejanews.com
> >players that play pickless?
>
> Robben Ford plays without a pick frequently. I also play without a
> pick to FWIW :-)
Many or most slide players. Most country players hybrid pick either using a
pick and fingers or thumbpick and fingers. Brent Mason pulls off some amazing
Benson style jazz stuff (not the Wes octaves, but fast bop lines), as well as
fast western (jazz) swing using thumbpick and fingers-his video is incredible
just to see that. Danny Gatton and Roy Buchanon used this approach to achieve
some of their 'impossible to play' sounding stuff. Johnny Winter used to be
thumb and fingerpicks, dunno if he still uses finger picks but he definitely
uses fingers as part of his basic technique. Other blues guys like Albert King
and Albert Collins were thumb or thumb and fingers guys.
There are/were a couple of threads going on recently about signature sounds
and 10 guitarists' styles you'd like to be able to incorporate into your
playing.. Seemed like there were definitely a few people mentioned who use
fingers. It can give your playin a distictive sound, Knopfler (and long
before him, Steve Stills, Jim Messina and of course the blues guys) and it
can also add speed (or at least allow you to achieve it in a different
way)like the tele monsters, Beck, Winter etc. It also gives you a different
set of techniques not available to a pick only player. Again Beck, the
country guys, Gatton et al are all examples of this.
As Greg mentioned, Beck takes his right hand to places few players go-he
really uses both hands to become One with the instrument in a way that is
totally his own. Gatton (and to a point Buchanon) did similar things. Hendrix
may have used a pick more, but was playing in this same 'one with the guitar'
spirit...(imo).
Steve
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Greg <zzzg...@home.com> wrote in message news:3710AFC9...@home.com...
: Ok, yet another Beck post. Well, just saw the Dallas show and really
: enjoyed it. I was about 11 rows back and also brought my
: binoculars...helpful to see what's going on with the hands. I never
: realized Beck played without a pick (except for about two tunes). His
: right hand technique-IMHO-was amazing...always busy tweaking tone/vol,
: pu selector, etc. He seems to rely on the whammy quite a bit, but I
: think he works it into his style uniquely...looked like he was wiggling
: the bridge with his hand frequently as well. Also gets great nuances of
: tone snapping chords at different places in relation to the bridge &
: neck. It was refreshing to see something other than run-of-the-mill
: players that play pickless?
:
: I know his effects (or lack of them) have been discussed here, but from
bso...@my-dejanews.com
pick.
In article <19990411130505...@ng-fd1.aol.com>,
carlg...@aol.com (Carlginger) wrote:
> > Perhaps I'm in the dark, but are there other significant
> >players that play pickless?
> >
>
> Even though they play mostly with a pick, Michael Landau and Ray Gomez are two
> of the best I ever heard without one.
>
> Carl
>
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