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J.Todd

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Jul 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/16/97
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I am thinking of replacing the generic pickups in my Epi Les
Paul Classic to two of the Carvin humbuckers. I was wondering if
anyone has an opinion of those pickups, good or bad.

Thanks!


PATRICK F. COLEMAN

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Jul 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/16/97
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I cant help you with the Carvins.. havent tried them or heard them in
person. but I can tell you schaller pickups are available from stewart
macdonald, which will fit your epi les paul.
they have three adjustment screws per side, which means you have not
only height adjustment but tilt adj. as well.
they are balanced for output, so the neck and bridge pickups have the
same 'at the knob' volume. And the bridge pickup is slightly wider,
compensating for the different string width between the neck and the
bridge.
you do have to buy their mounting rings, but even with these in gold
plate, you still pay a lot less than the carvins. I think they are on
sale, but I cant find my catalog.
I think stew mac has an website, maybe you can check there.
Hope this helps out.
patrick f. coleman

GeoMac

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Jul 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/16/97
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Asad Aboobaker wrote:
>
> I have an M22N in my Squier strat (yeah, strange, but what the hey),
> and I like it a lot.


Hey I almost did that myownself! I ended up going for Duncans though.


> The pickup sounds good, good output, lots of
> bass, and a smooth top end. The split mode sounds decent as well.
> The only thing is that its noisy, but I think that's my fault because
> I screwed up when putting it in.
>

I'm a big fan of Carvin stuff. I have the advantage of workin just
around the corner from one of their stores though, so I actually get
to go in and see/hear the stuff in person before I buy.

Phil

Asad Aboobaker

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Jul 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/17/97
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king...@NOSPAM.mail.ecsis.net (J.Todd) wrote:

> I am thinking of replacing the generic pickups in my Epi Les
>Paul Classic to two of the Carvin humbuckers. I was wondering if
>anyone has an opinion of those pickups, good or bad.

I have an M22N in my Squier strat (yeah, strange, but what the hey),
and I like it a lot. The pickup sounds good, good output, lots of


bass, and a smooth top end. The split mode sounds decent as well.
The only thing is that its noisy, but I think that's my fault because
I screwed up when putting it in.

Asad

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Ken Axe

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Jul 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/17/97
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PATRICK F. COLEMAN wrote:

>
> J.Todd wrote:
> >
> > I am thinking of replacing the generic pickups in my Epi Les
> > Paul Classic to two of the Carvin humbuckers. I was wondering if
> > anyone has an opinion of those pickups, good or bad.
> >
> > Thanks!
> I cant help you with the Carvins.. havent tried them or heard them in
> person. but I can tell you schaller pickups are available from stewart
> macdonald, which will fit your epi les paul.
> they have three adjustment screws per side, which means you have not
> only height adjustment but tilt adj. as well.
> they are balanced for output, so the neck and bridge pickups have the
> same 'at the knob' volume. And the bridge pickup is slightly wider,
> compensating for the different string width between the neck and the
> bridge.
> you do have to buy their mounting rings, but even with these in gold
> plate, you still pay a lot less than the carvins. I think they are on
> sale, but I cant find my catalog.
> I think stew mac has an website, maybe you can check there.
> Hope this helps out.
> patrick f. coleman

The address is http://www.stewmac.com

ken axe

Mick Patterson

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Jul 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/17/97
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In article <33CD85...@earthlink.net>, twa...@earthlink.net wrote:

+J.Todd wrote:
+> I am thinking of replacing the generic pickups in my Epi Les
+> Paul Classic to two of the Carvin humbuckers. I was wondering if
+> anyone has an opinion of those pickups, good or bad.

+I cant help you with the Carvins.. havent tried them or heard them in
+person. but I can tell you schaller pickups are available from stewart
+macdonald, which will fit your epi les paul.
+they have three adjustment screws per side, which means you have not
+only height adjustment but tilt adj. as well.

Well, 3 holes in the pickup frame, yes. This is so it will
fit a standard mounting ring using the middle hole, or keep
the tilt you want using the 2 outside holes.

+they are balanced for output, so the neck and bridge pickups have the
+same 'at the knob' volume. And the bridge pickup is slightly wider,
+compensating for the different string width between the neck and the
+bridge.
+you do have to buy their mounting rings, but even with these in gold
+plate, you still pay a lot less than the carvins. I think they are on
+sale, but I cant find my catalog.

In my catalog (admittadly out-of-date), they go for $41 (for
the "Golden 50"), and $51 (for the "2-in-1"). The Carvins
are almost ALWAYS on sale for anywhere from $36 to $49, de-
pending on the model you want. Luckily, the models *I* like
are $36 and $39. Now, I don't have the latest Stew/Mac catalog
in front of me, so they *might* be on sale, I don't know. But
their normal prices certainly aren't any better than Carvin,
and I happen to like Carvin pickups.
Now, I don't want to make this sound anti-Stew/Mac; I've
got a lot of tools and parts from them, with good service.
Anybody got the latest catalog, and can verify this?
---Mick...
___________________________________________________________
My opinions do not reflect those of anyone else... yet.

TQ Hot

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Jul 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/18/97
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Mick Patterson wrote:
>
> In article <33CD85...@earthlink.net>, twa...@earthlink.net wrote:
>
> +J.Todd wrote:
> +> I am thinking of replacing the generic pickups in my Epi Les
> +> Paul Classic to two of the Carvin humbuckers. I was wondering if
> +> anyone has an opinion of those pickups, good or bad.
>
> +I cant help you with the Carvins.. havent tried them or heard them in
> +person. but I can tell you schaller pickups are available from stewart

did the post say tell me about schaller ... NOPE ... i want to know
something about Carvin Pickups too ...

TQ Hot

PATRICK F. COLEMAN

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Jul 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/18/97
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HEY STOOPID,
IF THE GUY WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT CARVIN PICKUPS, WHICH HE HASNT HEARD OR
HAD EXPERIENCE WITH, THEN HES MOST PROBABLY SHOPPING FOR PICKUPS.
THEREFORE, ITS PRETTY UNDERSTANDABLE THAT I MIGHT POINT OUT THAT STEW
MAC HAD SCHALLERS WITH SOME NICE FEATURES THAT HE MIGHT BE INTERESTED
IN.
SO EVEN IF HE DIDNT ASK ABOUT SCHALLERS, HE, OR SOME OTHER MEMBER OF THE
NG READING HIS POST, MIGHT FIND THAT INFORMATION USEFULL.
ITS CALLED CONTRIBUTING WHAT YOU CAN IN HOPES OF HELPING AS MUCH AS
POSSIBLE.
have a nice day.
your guitar pal
patrick f.coleman

<<J>>

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Jul 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/18/97
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>> > +J.Todd wrote:
>> > +> I am thinking of replacing the generic pickups in my Epi Les
>> > +> Paul Classic to two of the Carvin humbuckers. I was wondering if
>> > +> anyone has an opinion of those pickups, good or bad.
>> >
>> > +I cant help you with the Carvins.. havent tried them or heard them in
>> > +person. but I can tell you schaller pickups are available from stewart
>>
>> did the post say tell me about schaller ... NOPE ... i want to know
>> something about Carvin Pickups too ...
>>
>> TQ Hot

>HEY STOOPID,
>IF THE GUY WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT CARVIN PICKUPS, WHICH HE HASNT HEARD OR
>HAD EXPERIENCE WITH, THEN HES MOST PROBABLY SHOPPING FOR PICKUPS.
>THEREFORE, ITS PRETTY UNDERSTANDABLE THAT I MIGHT POINT OUT THAT STEW
>MAC HAD SCHALLERS WITH SOME NICE FEATURES THAT HE MIGHT BE INTERESTED
>IN.
>SO EVEN IF HE DIDNT ASK ABOUT SCHALLERS, HE, OR SOME OTHER MEMBER OF THE
>NG READING HIS POST, MIGHT FIND THAT INFORMATION USEFULL.
>ITS CALLED CONTRIBUTING WHAT YOU CAN IN HOPES OF HELPING AS MUCH AS
>POSSIBLE.

"stoopid"? ok, whatever.

For those of you looking for Carvin info, I've heard them in a friend's Strat
copy (the stacked humbuckers in neck/mid, full humbucker in bridge), in fact I
installed them. I was not impressed with the tone, they didn't have any
*sparkle*, they sounded kind of dead. They were very quiet though - something
the previous poster definately is not. The humbucker in the bridge was a 22SD
model, which is the highest output pickup Carvin makes, and to me it sounded
kind of dead too. Not much for harmonics, though again it was very quiet. All
the pickups were balanced pretty well (highs to lows), but they couldn't touch
the Seymour Duncans that replaced them! More brilliance, more harmonics, more
dynamic. I'm sure Carvins are a step above some of the really cheap stock
pickups, but I would suggest you save a little more money and opt for Seymour
Duncans instead.

~J

Bill Shoemaker

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Jul 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/18/97
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On Wed, 16 Jul 1997 21:37:08 -0500, "PATRICK F. COLEMAN"
<twa...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>>person. but I can tell you schaller pickups are available from stewart

>macdonald, which will fit your epi les paul.

I've seen these. How do they compare to some of the other replacement
humbuckers around, sound wise? The price is sure right.

Bill


Dave

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Jul 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/18/97
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I installed a pair in my Ibanez Les Paul knock off. They sure looked a lot
better! Aside from that, it did sound better, and I also got one with the
polarity switch which I would recommend. It will give you more options.
They didn't make a WORLD of difference, but it sound better to a degree, &
gave me more options. I don't think you can beat Carvin's stuff for the
price. I have several things from them. If you've got bucks to burn, check
around. For great stuff for the working man, I say go Carvin.


--
Dave
empo...@mail.microserve.net

Matt Guthaus

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Jul 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/18/97
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<<J>> (webm...@imagi-mation.com) wrote:
: "stoopid"? ok, whatever.

: For those of you looking for Carvin info, I've heard them in a friend's Strat
: copy (the stacked humbuckers in neck/mid, full humbucker in bridge), in fact I
: installed them. I was not impressed with the tone, they didn't have any
: *sparkle*, they sounded kind of dead. They were very quiet though - something
: the previous poster definately is not. The humbucker in the bridge was a 22SD
: model, which is the highest output pickup Carvin makes, and to me it sounded
: kind of dead too. Not much for harmonics, though again it was very quiet. All
: the pickups were balanced pretty well (highs to lows), but they couldn't touch
: the Seymour Duncans that replaced them! More brilliance, more harmonics, more
: dynamic. I'm sure Carvins are a step above some of the really cheap stock
: pickups, but I would suggest you save a little more money and opt for Seymour
: Duncans instead.

I was surprized when I recently got a new Ibanez rg7620 with DiMarzio's in it.
I used to play a Jackson w/ Jackson active pickups. I thought switching to the
passive setup would seem dead, but I was incredibly wrong. I'm very impressed
with the DiMarzio's...

This was kinda off topic, but hey..
Matt

James Andrews

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Jul 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/18/97
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Matt Guthaus (mgut...@japh.engin.umich.edu) wrote:
: I was surprized when I recently got a new Ibanez rg7620 with DiMarzio's in it.
: I used to play a Jackson w/ Jackson active pickups. I thought switching to the
: passive setup would seem dead, but I was incredibly wrong. I'm very impressed
: with the DiMarzio's...

That's interesting. I have an RG570 from back in the day (OK, 1993 or
so) and I hate the Dimarzios (what are they? V1 and V2? I think that's
right). Hate 'em. No high end. Very mid- and muddy sounding.

They are, though (and whether this is a good or bad thing depends on your
taste) the hottest pickups I've ever played through. I was seriously
overdriving a Blues Deluxe on 4 on the clean channel. Make no mistake,
Ibanez wanted this guitar to be LOUD. (which also explains the muddiness
and lack of high end--that kind of thing happens when you seriously
overwind pickups)

Jas.


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John Thornburg

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Jul 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/18/97
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The are inexpensive and really sound good to me. I normally buy
duncans, but these were about half price. Schaller makes good
hardware so I thought I would give them a try.

I have installed two schaller pickups in a fender pro-tone tele. I
bought them both from stewmac. The first was a T6 tele bridge single
coil that resembles a duncan quarter pounder (larger pole pieces and
more powerful). It sounded much meatier and fatter sounding than the
stock protone.

I put a golden 50s humbucker in the neck, and it sounds great. Warm,
fat, and bluesy. I think a pair of these (neck and bridge) would
likely sound excellent in something like an Epi LP or similar Korean
or Japanese made guitar.

J.Todd

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Jul 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/19/97
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THANK YOU sir, for answering my post. The rest of you go argue on IRC
or something, leave me out of this.


PATRICK F. COLEMAN

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Jul 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/20/97
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Mick Patterson wrote:
>
> In article <33CD85...@earthlink.net>, twa...@earthlink.net wrote:
>
> +J.Todd wrote:
> +> I am thinking of replacing the generic pickups in my Epi Les
> +> Paul Classic to two of the Carvin humbuckers. I was wondering if
> +> anyone has an opinion of those pickups, good or bad.
>
> +I cant help you with the Carvins.. havent tried them or heard them in
Me again..
I have the latest catalog right here... It was in my pile of catalogs..
and I find the schaller golden 50 humbucker for 44.98...not as cheap as
my memory told me in the previous post...
the price I was remembering for the schallers is actually on the next
page... its a price for the bill lawrence pickups...8.4kohms 3
conductor wiring humbucking..22.95
so there you go.
patrick f. coleman

Roscoe The Monkey Boy

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Jul 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/21/97
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PATRICK F. COLEMAN wrote:
>
> Mick Patterson wrote:
> >
> > In article <33CD85...@earthlink.net>, twa...@earthlink.net wrote:
> >
> > +J.Todd wrote:
> > +> I am thinking of replacing the generic pickups in my Epi Les
> > +> Paul Classic to two of the Carvin humbuckers. I was wondering if
> > +> anyone has an opinion of those pickups, good or bad.
> >> patrick f. coleman
I use the single coils in my Strat at they are great! Make the
investment in the humbuckers. You won't be sorry.

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Christopher J. Capadona

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Jul 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/22/97
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In my opinion, EMG is the only way to go!!!! Forget Carvin, they may be
active but you can't beat the quality or raw power of EMG's. I use the
81, S and the SV, and I love them!! I also have the pa-2 pre-amp booster.
It's not bad, but I don't use it too much.
Buy EMG. They may be a litlle bit more expensive than Carvin, but it's
well worth it.

Ibanez Rocks!!! EMG Rules!!! Mesa/Boogie is the bomb!!!

P.S does anyone know anything about Rouge Guitars? They are a new
feature in Musician's Friend and i was wondering about their quality.

Thanx,
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On 17 Jul 1997, Mick Patterson wrote:

> Date: 17 Jul 1997 19:40:42 GMT
> From: Mick Patterson <ra3035...@email.sps.mot.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.guitar, rec.music.makers.guitar
> Subject: Re: Carvin pickups


>
> In article <33CD85...@earthlink.net>, twa...@earthlink.net wrote:
>
> +J.Todd wrote:
> +> I am thinking of replacing the generic pickups in my Epi Les
> +> Paul Classic to two of the Carvin humbuckers. I was wondering if
> +> anyone has an opinion of those pickups, good or bad.
>

Mick Patterson

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Jul 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/23/97
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In article
<Pine.LNX.3.95.970722...@beast.oca.udayton.edu>,
"Christopher J. Capadona" <capa...@beast.oca.udayton.edu> wrote:

+In my opinion, EMG is the only way to go!!!! Forget Carvin, they may be
+active but you can't beat the quality or raw power of EMG's. I use the
+81, S and the SV, and I love them!! I also have the pa-2 pre-amp booster.
+It's not bad, but I don't use it too much.
+Buy EMG. They may be a litlle bit more expensive than Carvin, but it's
+well worth it.

Carvins are NOT "active" pickups. EMGs are nice, but they
have always sounded a bit sterile to me; most low-impedance
(active) pickups do, at least to my ear. I get what I want
out of passive pickups. It all depends on your taste, style,
and what you want to hear.

Giri

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Jul 28, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/28/97
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Christopher J. Capadona wrote:

> P.S does anyone know anything about Rouge Guitars?

*Rouge* guitars??!! Do they have lipstick pickups? Hee hee, haw haw!

..Stevie "Yes, it's me" Giri

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John Ginnings

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Jul 31, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/31/97
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I have an Epi LP too, I ordered the m22sd's for the bridge an a m22n for
the neck. Compared to the epi's they sound a tad better but lacked in the
output department. So I went back to my stock pickups for a while but
then I saved up for a Pafpro in the Bridge area and it sounds awesome. I
put the carvins in my BC rich Warlock an they sound alot better in the BC
rich than in my LP. But it does depend on what kind of music you play
that dictates what kinda pick-up you should choose. Dimarzio,
Seymourduncans, an EMG, would be one of my top choices.
John,


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