signal splitter ?? Using 2 amps simultaneously
Metebelis
that I can play through 2 amps simultaneously.
Any suggestions on how to do this without degrading the signal would be
appreciated.
Thanks
Paul Creedy
I used to use an Ibanez stereo chorus pedal, but there are many pedals
that would do the job.
Patrick Keenan
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Often, "stereo" delay or chorus pedals are used for this purpose. One side
gets the "dry" or or unaffected signal, the other side gets the "wet". If
you just want to use the two amps, set the delay times and/or modulation to
zero, and both sides get the same thing.
HTH
-pk
Steve at fivetrees
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> "Metebelis" <NOS...@NOSPAM.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:4633aa67$1...@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>> Basically I am looking for a way of splitting the signal from my guitars
>> so that I can play through 2 amps simultaneously.
>>
>> Any suggestions on how to do this without degrading the signal would be
>> appreciated.
>
> side gets the "dry" or or unaffected signal, the other side gets the
> "wet". If you just want to use the two amps, set the delay times and/or
> modulation to zero, and both sides get the same thing.
Erm... I do this a lot, but not quite as you describe. I use a stereo chorus
pedal as a splitter for 2 amps, *but*:
- with the chorus off, both amps get the same signal
- with the chorus on, each amp gets one side of the *stereo* chorus
I think the clue is in the expression "stereo chorus"... ;)
Steve
(whose surgery on his fretting hand ring finger tendon is now rescheduled
for Monday... eep!)
http://www.fivetrees.com
Woody
> (whose surgery on his fretting hand ring finger tendon is now rescheduled
> for Monday... eep!)
Hope it all goes well.
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Tony Done
"Steve at fivetrees" <st...@NOSPAMTAfivetrees.com> wrote in message
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This thread got me sufficiently interested that I did a bit of checking. The
Boss DD-3 seems to work as Patrick describes - one output is clean, the
other processed, so if the effect is turned right down it will act as a
splitter. I've recently got interested in delays, so this could be the
choice for me, or the DD-5, in which both outputs seem to be processed.
Tony D
Justin Otto
wrote:
> (whose surgery on his fretting hand ring finger tendon is now rescheduled
> for Monday... eep!)http://www.fivetrees.com
Good luck!
J.
Stan Barr
<st...@NOSPAMTAfivetrees.com> wrote:
I used to have a (homebrew) splitter box that allowed me to switch the guitar
to either of 2 amps or both simultaneously. There must be similar things
these days.
Using both amps with the vibrato set at slightly different rates gave a great
Leslie sound (this was in the pre-effects days!).
>Steve
>(whose surgery on his fretting hand ring finger tendon is now rescheduled
>for Monday... eep!)
Good luck, I hope it's successful. Fortunately they cured mine with a
series of cortisone injections.
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"Metebelis" <NOS...@NOSPAM.co.uk> wrote:
> Basically I am looking for a way of splitting the signal from my guitars so
> that I can play through 2 amps simultaneously.
>
> Any suggestions on how to do this without degrading the signal would be
> appreciated.
Maybe I'm being thick here (what, me?) but I read in the OP's message the
desire not to degrade the original signal. Wouldn't running through a chorus
pedal with the effect set to zero have some degrading effect on the signal,
unless it's a 'true bypass' situation? Isn't there a 'Y' shaped cable thingy
that would simply leave your guitar or last effect and split into two, to go
into the two amps inputs? Do correct me if I'm wrong ;-)
John
Doing that would reduce the input level to each amp and I think that's
what the OP didn't want to do.
John.
Andy
> Possibly. Forget the Y cable though. The OP needs an AB or AB/Y box,
> should cost too much either.
Should read 'shouldn't cost too much either'.
Andy.
Andy
Possibly. Forget the Y cable though. The OP needs an AB or AB/Y box,
should cost too much either.
Cheers,
Andy.
Grant
"Metebelis" <NOS...@NOSPAM.co.uk> wrote in message
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> so that I can play through 2 amps simultaneously.
>
> Any suggestions on how to do this without degrading the signal would be
> appreciated.
>
Stewart Ward does an ABY pedal:
<http://www.award-session.com/aby-1switcher.html>
Pablo
An ABY box is your best bet. Morley do a Tripler pedal which also has
a boost so you can fix signal loss. However I'd recommend Redonion
solutions http://redonionsolutions.co.uk/ and get the transformer
Isolation circuit built in. As running two amps can cause ground loop
problems.
You will pay extra for the isolation circuit but it would be well
worth it. I run two amps without it and get some noise so I'm thinking
of getting the seperate boxes for that.
P
George Weston
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All the best for tomorow, Steve
George
Geetar Dave
> Maybe I'm being thick here (what, me?) but I read in the OP's message the
> desire not to degrade the original signal. Wouldn't running through a chorus
> pedal with the effect set to zero have some degrading effect on the signal,
> unless it's a 'true bypass' situation? Isn't there a 'Y' shaped cable thingy
> that would simply leave your guitar or last effect and split into two, to go
> into the two amps inputs? Do correct me if I'm wrong ;-)
Yes, I had the same thought.
Either buy or make a Y cable.
-dave-----:::
www.myspace.com/geetardave
Stan Barr
It doen't reduce it to any noticeable extent, not with high input impedance
valve amps anyway, my switchbox was just a fancy Y cable.
nosferatu
I bought a little 2x3 Aluminum box from Maplins , 3 jack sockets , and
made one . Dont get me wrong it never went to plan , i had 1 jack as
the input feeding my 2 output Jacks , i just fiddled around until it
all worked , and you cant blow anything , had it all done in maybe 10
minutes total . I still have it , and a great little gadget to have in
your kit bag .
Jim
Another option is a pan fader. It's like a volume pedal, but heel is on
amp, toe is the second amp, and in between is an infinite mix.
Edward A. Oates
in article z8_Yh.8644$Ro3....@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk, Grant at
m...@privacy.net wrote on 4/29/07 3:08 AM:
So does Morley: at Musiciansfriend here:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Morley-ABY-Channel-Switcher?sku=15075
7
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John Rimmer
"Metebelis" <NOS...@NOSPAM.co.uk> wrote in message
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A guitar pick up is a power source and will only produce a certain amount of
current. If you use a simple Y splitter the current to each amp will be
less than it would be to one so the voltage generated across the amps input
impedances will also be less. If your amps have plenty of gain this
shouldn't be a problem and it's the simplest and easiest way to go.
Alternatively, you need a buffer. A unity gain voltage follower will do the
job nicely for very little cost if you can solder a chip on to a piece of
veroboard. A TL071 op-amp is ideal (FET for high input impedance) running
off two 9V batteries and you'll find a voltage follower circuit at
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Bill_Bowden/opamp.htm .
HTHG
John
umpston
wrote:
If you don't fancy the diy route others have mentioned the ABY boxes
made by Award-Session and Morley. ART also do one (the Coolswitch).
Another company Monkeyfx do many different configurations of
splitters, blenders loopers and switches to suit more complex needs
see: www.monkeyfx.co.uk
david morley
Or http://www.nobels.com/cgi-bin/products/show.pl?e_ab-v
Has volume for each channel which can be useful...
Guncho
The coolest way I've seen to do this is with an Ernie Ball Pan Pedal.
All the way up is all one amp, all the down is the other and anywhere
in between.
Chris
The Chris
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Just pick up any effect with a stereo out - like a stereo chorus or a
delay.
The Chris
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Eh..... I researched that a while back when I was looking for a solution -
there was something not cool about it... but I can't remember what it was.
I think getting it in the middle during a show was the tough part..
Guncho
>
> - Show quoted text -
Mike McCready from Pearl Jam is set up this way.
Toe down all Marshall
Heel down all Fender
Why would it matter if you got it exactly in the middle?
Chris
Geetar Dave
> Mike McCready from Pearl Jam is set up this way.
>
> Toe down all Marshall
> Heel down all Fender
>
> Why would it matter if you got it exactly in the middle?
Oh, come on now Chris. You know we guitarists are a finicky bunch.
Things must be "just so." ;^)
I like the amp-blending idea, but my brain couldn't tolerate another
pedal like that. The volume and the wah are enough already. Also, at
somepoint I would want *more* of the toe-down sound, and so I'd "turn
it up" by rocking the pedal away from it.
Now someone (I forget whom) made a boutique amp that was a Fender
Deluxe Reverb on one channel, and a Marshall Plexi on the other. I
don't remember many of the details, but I think there was a pedal that
rocked side-to-side somehow; and you could blend the channels
together. Predictably, it was very expensive.
-dave-----:::
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The Chris
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I thought the original post was 'using 2 amps simultaneously' - to me
that meant kind of a 'stereo' thing.
And, I think it would matter to the sound guy :)
Guncho
With the pan pedal in the middle, you would be sending the same amount
of signal to both amps. This would be in stereo.
>
> And, I think it would matter to the sound guy :)
Why?
Here's McCready's setup:
http://www.sonymusic.com/artists/PearlJam/gear/images/sfmm1098.gif
Chris
The Chris
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I'm saying that when I tried to use one - it was HARD - LIVE - to get it to
go back to the middle easily... It was like trying to have a wah stop dead
center...
Why would it matter to the sound guy? Because if he was trying to maintain
a consistent level, and you didn't park it in the middle - he'd have to
compensate... Surely - both amps would be miked...
I had MUCH more success with Boss AC-2 pedal.. Sent my cleans to FOH, and
would turn OFF my amps.
That's my experience.
Guncho
I just don't understand why it would be necessary to have it be
perfectly in the middle. 45% or 53% would be fine with me. My volume
pedal is not as accurate as an on/off switch but I get by just fine.
I can get roughly to the same 3/4 spot I usually park it on for rhythm
without too much effort.
>
> Why would it matter to the sound guy? Because if he was trying to maintain
> a consistent level, and you didn't park it in the middle - he'd have to
> compensate... Surely - both amps would be miked...
That's what sounds checks are for. You would set the levels of the two
amps in the FOH sound and monitor mix, prior to taking the stage.
Chris
The Chris
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I guess. I just didn't dig it. And dragging two amps out didn't help...
What is this thing you call 'soundchecks'??? :)
Edward A. Oates
T...@pedalboards.com can build exactly what you need, as well as various
parallel, serial, stereo, etc. pedal boards systems. I have one of his units
to be used to bypass a Fender Reverb when it is not in use (the FR affects
the dry signal even when "off" locally). It is of high quality and it works.
Here is Tom's web site: