Custom Guitar Picks - follow up - beware
Bob Savage
back. I ended up going with www.pickworld.com . I though I would share my
experience with others so you can make an educated decision on who to go
with if you're in the market for them.
I decided to go with Pick World, even though they were slightly more
expensive than some other places on the net because they offered three pick
colors per gross. I wanted to get various colors so I could decide which I
liked best, and then purchase more of the "good colors" later. So, I bought
two gross, one gross with white lettering and three colors of picks and one
gross with black lettering and three colors of picks.
Anyway, to make a long story short, the quality of the graphic application
was less than advertised. On some picks it was shifted to the right with
the last character riding on the edge of the pick. Also, on many picks,
mostly ones with white text, part of the graphic is missing as if it fell of
after being stamped. One other discrepancy with the order is that they
substituted a pick color without notifying me. This was not noted on their
website, but they say that it is being updated today with this information
(how convenient).
As for the customer service regarding the quality issues I have, to make a
long story short, here are the last two lines of the e-mail I received from
Scott Morris at Pick World (i.e. Wilmington Fibre).
"this is the best we can do"
"It's a pick not a freakin car"
I don't care that it's not a "freakin car," if I buy a candy bar and it's
rotten, I want a new bar or my money back. Pick World is not interested in
fixing my order or refunding money. Actually, I do not want money back, I
want picks that are a professional product, as advertised. Mind you, the
attitude from Scott did not come about as a result of him and I going back
and forth with e-mail and him becoming frustrated, this was his FIRST reply
to my message indicating 1) A missing pick color, 2) incorrect positioning
on about 50% of the picks, and 3) missing graphics on at least 50% of the
picks with white lettering.
I highly discourage anyone from buying picks from "Pick World" based upon my
experience with them. They have the potential to do good work, but do not
seem interested in taking the time to do so. Aside from this, they have
openly admitted to incompetence by saying "this is the best we can do." I
can't imagine anyone wanting to purchase a product from a company that
openly admits incompetence.
I apologize in advance for the crosspost to four newsgroups, but I wanted to
warn my fellow players of the poor service at Wilmington Fibre / Pick World.
--
Bob
PMG
product.
I personally can't think of anything more useless than having custom
graphics printed on a pick, and I certainly wouldn't pay anybody money
to have it done, but I think you probably deserved much better service
from a company that provided the service, since you DID want custom
picks and they did offer the service.
But seriously Bob, if you use a lot of picks, just buy them by the gross
of whatever your favorite pick is, these custom pick are going to cause
you undue stress, and over something as trivial as a pick, it's just not
worth it.
Pete
--
Walk on guilded splinters --Mac Rebennack
David and/or Rena Covell
the gross
> of whatever your favorite pick is, these custom pick are going
to cause
> you undue stress, and over something as trivial as a pick,
it's just not
> worth it.
My guess is that Bob wants the custom picks for advertising his
band, in which I case I can understand his frustration at
getting shoddy mechandise.
---
## David Covell ##
## cov...@jps.net ##
Philip J. Bergeron
gotten a great product at the best prices I have seen. And no, I am not
affiliated with Legend Picks in any way, I just got excellent service and want
to send some business his way if I can.
-Bucky
Bob Savage
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> But seriously Bob, if you use a lot of picks, just buy them by the gross
> of whatever your favorite pick is, these custom pick are going to cause
> you undue stress, and over something as trivial as a pick, it's just not
> worth it.
In some ways, I agree with you. I use the picks as a promotional tool,
however. The stress isn't really a problem since I just wrote it off and am
not going to pursue it. I just wanted to make sure that others who may be
in the market for custom picks are aware of Pick World's problems.
Thanks for the input.
--
Bob
Bob Savage
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> Talk to Greg at LegendPicks.com . I have placed two orders with him and
have
> gotten a great product at the best prices I have seen. And no, I am not
> affiliated with Legend Picks in any way, I just got excellent service and
want
> to send some business his way if I can.
Unfortunately, I was about to go with Legend, but I was referred to Pick
World by someone who said they had a "professional product." Bah! The
second reason was I wanted various colors. I definitely won't be so picky
(pun intended <g>) next time with the colors, and will most likely go with
Legend.
Thanks for the heads up on getting good product from Legend.
--
Bob
LITTLE BASTARD
time it's because he's working on a huge order for KISS or Nugent.
LB
http://www.mp3.com/littlebastard
Bob Savage <bsa...@blabla.home.com> wrote in message
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Bob Savage
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> Greg is great. (AT Legend Picks) he may be a bit slower, but half the
> time it's because he's working on a huge order for KISS or Nugent.
Thanks for the tip. Two people have now said how good the Legend Pick
company is. I think I'll use them next.
--
Bob
Scott Colborn
So what does a gross of picks cost that are custom printed? Just
curious - I think it's a great way to promote a band - damn, never tried it
but glad I read your posts. What are you guys paying? Can you get a Dunlop
Tortex pick custom done (likes my Dunlops...)?
Walk in Beauty, Peace. Scott
Jacob Pyke
I can't comment on any pricings, but I do know that Dunlop does custom picks
as the picks Metallica use are the green .88 mm dunlop tortex picks just
customised with their own band regalia on them.
Its fun bragging to friends that you use the same model picks at Metallica
:)
If Dunlop has a site, that'd probably be your best bet in finding out how
much they charge for custom picks en masse. I hope this has helped a bit.
Regards
Jacob Pyke
Scott Colborn <kcol...@inetnebr.com> wrote in message
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LITTLE BASTARD
I belive it's $60 for 144 both sides printed. About the same as walking
into a store and buying picks only these promo you and not Fender.
LB
http://www.mp3.com/littlebastard
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Bob Savage
"Scott Colborn" <kcol...@inetnebr.com> wrote in message
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> Hello Phillip, LB and Bob,
> So what does a gross of picks cost that are custom printed? Just
> curious - I think it's a great way to promote a band - damn, never tried
it
> but glad I read your posts. What are you guys paying?
I paid $45 a gross (144 picks), but I believe Legend Picks is $40 a gross.
Plus, as was my intention in posting, I would steer ANYONE away from Pick
World because of their inferior product and poor customer service.
>Can you get a Dunlop
> Tortex pick custom done (likes my Dunlops...)?
I believe you can, but they would be significantly more expensive. Dunlop
offers custom picks for most of their picks. Check out www.jimdunlop.com
Take care,
--
Bob
Bob Savage
> Check out www.legendpicks.com.
> I belive it's $60 for 144 both sides printed. About the same as
walking
> into a store and buying picks only these promo you and not Fender.
That's something I didn't mention to Scott. The $45 I paid was for single
side printing. I believe it's $40 at Legend for single sided.
--
Bob
PMG
frame http://www.jimdunlop.com/picks/custom_print.html "custom print" in
the picks section.
Pete
--
Bob Savage
> http://www.jimdunlop.com/ it's not just one price, you gotta visit this
> frame http://www.jimdunlop.com/picks/custom_print.html "custom print" in
> the picks section.
Yep, unfortunately Dunlop is very expensive. The quality should be good
though.
--
Bob
mike pritchard
graphics and the picks look great! I'd have no problem recommending them. I wish
I would have seen the original poster's message looking for recommendations...I
would have sent my 2 cents regarding Legend.
Oh well...
Mike
Bob Savage
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> I couldn't agree more! I ordered a gross (trial order) from Legend, with
custom
> graphics and the picks look great! I'd have no problem recommending them.
I wish
> I would have seen the original poster's message looking for
recommendations...I
> would have sent my 2 cents regarding Legend.
With all the input regarding Legend, they seem to be a good choice next
time. They've only got three colors, black, white and tortoise shell,
right?
--
Bob
PMG
Given those 3 choices, I'd go with white. They're easier to find when
you drop them, and if you toss them out into the audience, you want them
to be able to find them and pick them up rather easy.
Pete
--
Walk on gilded splinters --Mac Rebennack
Bob Savage
> Given those 3 choices, I'd go with white. They're easier to find when
> you drop them, and if you toss them out into the audience, you want them
> to be able to find them and pick them up rather easy.
I agree wholeheartedly. I can never find the darned black picks.
--
Bob
Thomas R. Pullen
The difference is you get 144 for $40 with Legends and have to buy 200 from
Dunlop for $55. Good deal either way but I am such a Tortex fan that I am
going to have to get the Dunlops.....but first, I need a band...just
kidding.
Tom
--
"Among God's creatures two, the dog and the guitar, have taken all the sizes
and shapes, in order not to be separated from the man"
- Andres Segovia
Thomas R. Pullen
--
Tom
"The first man to compare the cheeks of a young woman to a rose was
obviously a poet; the first to repeat it was possibly an idiot."
--Salvador Dali
PMG
those for a while in aga) then pick the best name, order the picks, and
find the band members later.
Band name? How about "Uphead Brick" or "Fractal Overload" or "Neck Warp"
or "Tubes Glow Blue" or "Smelly Grillcloth"
Pete
--
Scott Colborn
I think you just did "start" a new thread about band names. Here's a
few from moi:
Bent & Amused.
Deep Sky.
Peaceful Conspiracy.
Fun Lust.
Showusyour_____!
Fitzskrubber.
Fat Willie. (I'm not kidding - I think it's a great name for a band - LV
could be on the CD jacket somewhere.)
I'm going to go down to the local club for some playing now. Hopefully my
playing will be better than my suggested names - what the heck Pete, the
thread's started. Take care.
Walk in Beauty, Peace. Scott (....deep down, you know you have to have
a Marshall sometime...)
Bob Savage
> Start a new thread asking for band name advise (haven't seen one of
> those for a while in aga) then pick the best name, order the picks, and
> find the band members later.
I'm wondering if "Jim Dunlop" is taken as a band name. Then I would not
have to worry about this.
--
Bob
Bob Savage
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> Oops....there is an 800 pick minimum at Dunlop.
Ouch!
--
Bob
Bob Savage
> If you do the math, Dunlop is $.275 per pick the Legends price is $.277.
> The difference is you get 144 for $40 with Legends and have to buy 200
from
> Dunlop for $55. Good deal either way but I am such a Tortex fan that I am
> going to have to get the Dunlops.....but first, I need a band...just
> kidding.
Hmm, I'll have to check out the Dunlop site again, because I thought there
was a fairly significant setup fee.
--
Bob
Thomas R. Pullen
the grillcloth smells like mildew. Any thoughts on how to stop
that....thanks for the memory jog PMG!!!
--
Tom
"The first man to compare the cheeks of a young woman to a rose was
obviously a poet; the first to repeat it was possibly an idiot."
--Salvador Dali
> From: PMG <avo...@mediaone.net>
> Organization: Disorganism Org.
> Newsgroups:
> alt.guitar,alt.guitar.amps,alt.guitar.amplifiers,rec.music.makers.guitar
> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 02:48:56 GMT
> Subject: Re: Custom Guitar Picks - follow up - beware
>
> "Smelly Grillcloth"
PMG
Thanks Scott, that thread with my initials in it was losing steam, so I
was starting to get..., wait another band name:
"Depressed Buttons"
or that shocking new band, "The Ungroundeds"
or the band that owes their name to Rich, "Tranny Toasters", and if the
band is still going as long as the Strolling Drones they could change it
to "Granny's Toaster".
Pete
PMG
With a name like Dunlop, he's probably tired of it by now anyhow.
Pete
PMG
spray into the room to get rid of the pot smell, Ozium. But I don't
know, that was for getting rid of cigarette smell wasn't it?
My reaction to meldew would probably be to remove the grill cloth frame
from the amp, make sure it's good & dried out and vacuum the cloth &
clean it up real good, then spray it with Ozium, and make sure the area
in the amp where it sets is cleaned out real good before putting it back
in.
No, I haven't tried it.
Pete
--
Kamchak Tuchuk
<avo...@mediaone.net> wrote:
>I think LV had a solution for that, spray it with that stuff we used to
>spray into the room to get rid of the pot smell, Ozium. But I don't
>know, that was for getting rid of cigarette smell wasn't it?
>
>My reaction to meldew would probably be to remove the grill cloth frame
>from the amp, make sure it's good & dried out and vacuum the cloth &
>clean it up real good, then spray it with Ozium, and make sure the area
>in the amp where it sets is cleaned out real good before putting it back
Maybe some of that Febreeze stuff?
Punkerdubh
keep with the high-gain, heavy guitar theme I had to
drop the word "spray". Whenever I thought about
tunes with "tweed spray painting party" in them, they
kept sounding like something the B-52s would do.
If anyone else can come up with new verses, or
even better, a whole new tune with the "spray"
intact, please feel free to chime in. The Hack
Butchers need your help.
[Chunky, detuned rhythm guitar throughout, vamping
on the I chord (chromatic slide up into the I on the
downbeat). If the lead guitar player can handle the
harmonic complexity, shift to the V chord for the
guitar fills, otherwise just stay on I. ~100 BPM.]
"I got a amp, a lovely vintage amp
And I soldered it all over the place"
[Open position guitar fill, lots of pull-offs.]
"I took my iron, them A.G.A's was cryin'
Now it's ready for the final disgrace"
[Guitar/bass/vocal unison on "ready for the final
disgrace", then the whole band drops out for four
beats. The drums mark this off with two 1/4 note
rests and two 1/4 note flams.]
"Tweed paintin' party
My bass was gettin' farty
I can use another gain stage, lord"
[mid-boosted, 12th position guitar fill, lots of bends
with "auditorium" setting on the digital reverb]
"Tweed paintin' party
They say that I'm foolhardy
Now the resale value's hittin' the floor"
[Guitar/bass/vocal unison on "resale value's hittin'
the floor", then play guitar/bass unison descending
lick. Four dotted 1/4 notes followed by two 1/4
notes. Repeat and fade while drums and lead
guitar go nuts]
Well now, that was fun,
- Punkerdubh
"PMG" <avo...@mediaone.net> wrote:
>
>
> Punkerdubh wrote:
> >
> > I'm gonna hafta go with ............
> >
> > The Hack Butchers
> >
> > High-gain, metal sound with songs like:
> > "Hole Punchin' Man"
> > "Tweed Spray Painting Party"
>
> This song made me laugh as soon as I saw it, I don't know why.
>
> How about: "Gain More Gain"
>
> Pete
>
>
> > "Gonna Drill Your Chassis All Night Long"
> > "Diode Clipper Boogie"
> > "Hey, Hey Tremolux - Bite my Gain Stage!"
> > "I'm Your Baffle Cutter"
> >
> > Then again, maybe not.
> > - Punkerdubh
Stefan Markowitz
PMG schrieb in Nachricht <3A9C1028...@mediaone.net>...
>How about: "Gain More Gain"
What about "Gimme Some More Gain Stages" - a cover
version of "Gimme Some Lovin´".
Lyrics excerpt:
Well my temperature is rising and my grid on the ground,
twenty gain-stages rockin´ ´cos they wanna do more
let me hear it baby I don´t know what you´ve got
but you better take it easy -this place is hot (and I´m)
Refr.:
So glad you made it,
so glad you made it, (you gotta)
gimme somma gain stages [gimme gimme more gain stages]
gimme somma gain stages [gimme gimme more gain stages]
gimme somma gain stages - every day
Hey, I´ve just got another idea:
What about "Don´t Fear The Driller" by "Hack Butcher Cult"?
Stefan
PMG
"Spray paint it!.... Spray paint it!"
and then that faggy guy from the B-52s would interject "~Krylon~" and
"Rustolium my chassis"
Pete
PMG
Stefan Markowitz wrote:
>
> PMG schrieb in Nachricht <3A9C1028...@mediaone.net>...
>
> >How about: "Gain More Gain"
>
> What about "Gimme Some More Gain Stages" - a cover
> version of "Gimme Some Lovin´".
> Lyrics excerpt:
>
> Well my temperature is rising and my grid on the ground,
> twenty gain-stages rockin´ ´cos they wanna do more
> let me hear it baby I don´t know what you´ve got
> but you better take it easy -this place is hot (and I´m)
>
> Refr.:
> So glad you made it,
> so glad you made it, (you gotta)
> gimme somma gain stages [gimme gimme more gain stages]
> gimme somma gain stages [gimme gimme more gain stages]
> gimme somma gain stages - every day
That works pretty well, but it might work better with "stage" instead of
"stages", I'd probably go "Gimme gimme more gain stage, every day"
>
> Hey, I´ve just got another idea:
> What about "Don´t Fear The Driller" by "Hack Butcher Cult"?
>
> Stefan
Yeah "Hack Butcher Cult" is a killer name! Don't be the last one to
leave the bar.
Dan Stanley
"Stefan Markowitz" <S.Mar...@dontspam.gmx.de> wrote in message
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>
> PMG schrieb in Nachricht <3A9C1028...@mediaone.net>...
>
> >How about: "Gain More Gain"
>
>
> What about "Gimme Some More Gain Stages" - a cover
> version of "Gimme Some Lovin´".
> Lyrics excerpt:
>
> Well my temperature is rising and my grid on the ground,
> twenty gain-stages rockin´ ´cos they wanna do more
> let me hear it baby I don´t know what you´ve got
> but you better take it easy -this place is hot (and I´m)
Should be "...this PLATE is hot..." ;-}
CompUser
"Dan Stanley" wrote ...
> > Well my temperature is rising and my grid on the ground,
> > twenty gain-stages rockin´ ´cos they wanna do more
> > let me hear it baby I don´t know what you´ve got
> > but you better take it easy -this place is hot (and I´m)
>
> Should be "...this PLATE is hot..." ;-}
Nooooooooooo!!
"Ima gonna crank it Up
Cuz the plate is on Fyah!!!"
Punkerdubh
> I kept hearing them chanting in the background between verses:
>
> "Spray paint it!.... Spray paint it!"
I think I'm liking this.
>
> and then that faggy guy from the B-52s would interject "~Krylon~" and
> "Rustolium my chassis"
Nice touch! LOL on the Krylon - it *is* very B-52s isn't it?
- Punkerdubh
PMG
Punkerdubh wrote:
>
> "PMG" <avo...@mediaone.net> wrote in message
> news:3A9C52CD...@mediaone.net...
> > I kept hearing them chanting in the background between verses:
> >
> > "Spray paint it!.... Spray paint it!"
>
> I think I'm liking this.
>
> >
> > and then that faggy guy from the B-52s would interject "~Krylon~" and
> > "Rustolium my chassis"
>
> Nice touch! LOL on the Krylon - it *is* very B-52s isn't it?
>
> - Punkerdubh
I've never actually had a B-52s record, but before I quit listening to
the radio, I heard "Rock Lobster" and "Love Shack" (it's a funky funky
shack) so many times that I can still hear them. If those songs enter
my head now while I'm trying to concentrate on something else, I'm going
to be pretty darn upset.
Tom Yost
>
> I've never actually had a B-52s record, but before I quit listening to
> the radio, I heard "Rock Lobster" and "Love Shack" (it's a funky funky
> shack) so many times that I can still hear them. If those songs enter
> my head now while I'm trying to concentrate on something else, I'm going
> to be pretty darn upset.
>
Too late.
<Fred Schnieder voice> "Love Shack Bay-bee!"
Hope this helps.
Tom
howl dog
Tom Yost wrote:
>
>
> Too late.
> <Fred Schnieder voice> "Love Shack Bay-bee!"
>
HERE COMES A BIKINI WHALE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
heh.
B52s. Man. What a fun group.
PMG
Damn! I knew that was going to happen. I was starting to forget.
But I'm listening to Capt. Beefheart's "Trout Mask Replica", so I'm
safe.