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YAMAHA GUITARS: Good, Bad, Great, Crap, So-So ???

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Andy Kallas

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Jan 28, 2002, 1:23:02 AM1/28/02
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I keep seeing Yamaha guitars at places. They seem to play good and
the prices are fairly low, so is there some catch to them ??? like are
they deceiving ???

Don Evans

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Jan 28, 2002, 9:40:00 AM1/28/02
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> I keep seeing Yamaha guitars at places. They seem to play good and
> the prices are fairly low, so is there some catch to them ??? like are
> they deceiving ???
>
No, usually, they are a good value.

Don


Stephane Boucher

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Jan 28, 2002, 11:46:22 AM1/28/02
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lil-mu...@hotmail.com (Andy Kallas) writes:

The guitar that's hanging on the wall in my living room is a Pacifica
112 (the bottom of the line) with Duncan pickups. It gets a lot of
play time. I wish the neck was a bit wider, but it's a playable
guitar nonetheless.

--

Gary F.

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I have a CG180SA Classical. Excellent guitar.

Gary F.
http://www.gwfweb.com/guitars


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Jeremy Arnold

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Jan 28, 2002, 3:44:25 PM1/28/02
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> I keep seeing Yamaha guitars at places. They seem to play good and
> the prices are fairly low, so is there some catch to them ??? like are
> they deceiving ???

Never played one, but I've heard nothing but good things. Alot of
people would say they're about the best guitar available in their
price range.

Jeremy

Jeremy Arnold

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Jan 28, 2002, 3:44:27 PM1/28/02
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lil-mu...@hotmail.com (Andy Kallas) wrote in message news:<a7658.51113$Oc.42...@bin1.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>...
> I keep seeing Yamaha guitars at places. They seem to play good and
> the prices are fairly low, so is there some catch to them ??? like are
> they deceiving ???

Never played one, but I've heard nothing but good things. Alot of
people would say they're about the best guitars available in their
price range.

Jeremy

Dave

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Jan 28, 2002, 5:10:11 PM1/28/02
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Every Yamaha I've played has been a great instrument. Mainly
acoustics, only touched a few electrics. My favorite guitar is an old
Yamaha belonging to my uncle; I wish he would give it to me :) It
would be perfect alongside my mother's Gibson J45 that I learned to
play on.

Ima dedman

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Jan 28, 2002, 5:19:05 PM1/28/02
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I've Always said that for inexpensive Acc guitars No-one can touch Yamaha. I
bought one new for 100.00(roughly) played it for 4 years (just a knockabout
for home and road trips), then when I was moving it fell off the back of my
truck at 50 mph , skidded down the road on its face for a bit. I retrieved
it, replaced the nut and bridge and played it for another 2 years, gave it
away 4 years ago when I left Canada and went I went home last summer the guy
was still playing it. Electric Gtrs Iduuno. I've heard the Pacifica line was
good for beginners.
SSS

--
Scott Child
PO Box 881 GT
Grand CAyman BWI

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moonz

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Jan 28, 2002, 7:07:26 PM1/28/02
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not at all...just another decent Korean import line...in the past few years
the Koreans have gotten extremely
good at making a good playing guitars for cheap..quality is not US fender or
Gibson, but not
bad, and the prices are way down there...quality has gotten good enough for
big companies like Yamaha to put their
name on em.

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Francisco André Gonçalves

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Jan 27, 2002, 7:54:16 PM1/27/02
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I had a RGX821D. Wish I could have it again. I had to sold that to have more
money to buy my Carvin (Super-excellent guitars)...But I miss my Yamaha!
Yamaha, to me, are best guitars for their price range. High quality
finishes, super playability, versatility...Very good guitars. They diserve
more attention from the guitar community. I tried a SG-2000 (antique
sunburst) and blown my friend's Gibson Les Paul Standard!!! Believe me!
Super great guitar! What a sound! Waht a feel!

Yamaha anda Carvin made me think that I should not fall on the guitar's
companies names. Try others and you will find better instruments for a lot
less money. Then I can save some extras to upgrade my rig. (amps , effects)

I'm thinking buying the new RGX-TT model. I can't find a similar guitar with
such "options" in it. Duncans JB and Classic Stacks, Sperzels Locking Tuners
and Wilkinson trem...Show me a guitar like that...


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georgio

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Jan 28, 2002, 8:49:39 PM1/28/02
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Yamaha make very good acoustic guitars...
they do have cheaper models..but for around 300-400 $$, you can get
a very decent one..

as far as the electric guitars.. they are very decent and well priced..
i do remember seeing/trying one in a guitar store that has a '50's
design to it and it played pretty good...

georgio

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Steve

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Jan 28, 2002, 10:38:22 PM1/28/02
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>> I keep seeing Yamaha guitars at places. They seem to play good and
>> the prices are fairly low, so is there some catch to them ??? like are
>> they deceiving ???

Their entry-level acoustics and electrics are a great deal for the dollars...in
particular, their Pacifica 112 is the equal of guitars costing two to three
times as much in terms of workmanship and playability.


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Nil

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Jan 28, 2002, 11:43:19 PM1/28/02
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In article <a7658.51113$Oc.42...@bin1.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>, Andy
Kallas says...

> I keep seeing Yamaha guitars at places. They seem to play good and
> the prices are fairly low, so is there some catch to them ??? like are
> they deceiving ???

I have an SG-2000 (Yamaha's variation on the Les Paul forumula) that
I've had since about 1981, and it's been an excellent guitar.

I've heard that their strat-category guitars (the Pacifica, I think)
are quite good for the money.

al

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Jan 29, 2002, 10:14:14 AM1/29/02
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Nil <redn...@lycos.com> wrote in message news:<MPG.16bff2fd4...@lrnws01.ne.mediaone.net>...

I have a Yamaha acoustic (FG-432) that I bought new in 1986 or 87. It
is a small jumbo type size/shape. It was either $299 or 399 new (I
forget). It has been my only acoustic flat top (I have an archtop and
several electric guitars) since I bought it. Over the years, I have
spent some real money on electrics (two strats, a G&L, an ES-335, a
les paul, a Grosh, a Heritage archtop, an SG... most are gone now as I
only keep a couple at a time) but have never felt the need to upgrade
my acoustic even though I could afford to. I have toyed with getting
an expensive Martin or maybe a Lowden, but every time I try one at the
store I think "that is a great guitar... better than my old Yamaha ...
but not $1000-2000 better!" So far, I have always passed on these
more expensive acoustics. The Yamaha is loud, stays in tune, has good
action and has never needed any pro adjustments, and has a particular
"bloom" to it when I play single note line that I can't really
describe but haven't found on any other guitars I have tried. I have
used it at many, many jam sessions and it has held its own with
whatever other guitars were there, even much more expensive ones. Is
it a GREAT acoustic guitar? No. Is it a VERY GOOD one that is very
trusty and well built? Yes. I figure, assuming I paid 300 for it and
have had it for almost 15 years it has cost me about $20/year. A true
bargain. If you are in the market for an expensive acoustic, don't
bother with Yamaha. If you are looking for a modestly-priced one, I
don't think you can do any better.

Gary

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Jan 29, 2002, 12:17:34 PM1/29/02
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I have had an SSC500 (?) triple single coil unit since '84 or so.
Very nice feel, paid < $200 new. I also have an AES800 dual humbucker
for the last few years which is my main "axe" (John Fahey once said
that anyone who calls a guitar an "axe" doesn't know how to play it).

I think the AES is a great guitar. It has a unique setting on its
5-position switch that interacts with a special tone control to give a
subtle variety of out-of-phase sounds. This knob ONLY works in that
position!

I haven't tried the Pacificas. But I do like Yamaha electrics.

junkmart

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Jan 29, 2002, 1:40:04 PM1/29/02
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DITTO! I just bought an Rgx-TT for $399. (US). (AT MARS MUSIC) It's a
fantastic guitar! ALTHOUGH: The tuners were loose, the nut is cheesey.
Other than that, it rocks. LOW action, High sustain...superebly finished
rosewood f-board (almost feels like ebony). I have a feeling Yamaha pays
some poor starving Taiwanese luthier a bowl of rice more than Squire does.
Be careful buying one, though. Each guitar (not just the model) varies in
feel and craftsmanship. I'm very happy with mine...good luck.
Dan

Gary Hendershot

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Jan 30, 2002, 12:57:35 AM1/30/02
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Andy Kallas [lil-mu...@hotmail.com] a écrit dans l'article:

>
>
> I keep seeing Yamaha guitars at places. They seem to play good and
> the prices are fairly low, so is there some catch to them ??? like are
> they deceiving ???
>
==============================================================


Well, maybe all the above (good, bad, great, crap, etc...) could
describe a Yamaha guitar, but mostly by far: Damn Good Deal For The
Money. I've played some quasi-attrocious Yamaha guitars before, but
they were clearly priced and marketed as economy / beginner rigs.
However, I wouldn't go so far as to say that Yamaha is deceiving
anyone.


As far as their midrange and upper-end model electric guitars go,
one of the things the Yamaha Guitar Company has done very well
during the past 20 to 25 years or so has been interpreting various
Gibson and/or Fender designs and coming up with refined and even
unique models of electric guitars.


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Houston, Tejas, Estados Unidos





Pekka Kujansuu

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Jan 30, 2002, 2:40:35 PM1/30/02
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> I'm thinking buying the new RGX-TT model. I can't find a similar guitar with
> such "options" in it. Duncans JB and Classic Stacks, Sperzels Locking Tuners
> and Wilkinson trem...Show me a guitar like that...

I've been thinking of getting one, too. But I actually *do* know a
guitar that has quite similiar features, and is actually cheaper. The
Cort S2900, that is. The differences are pretty much that the body is
alder, with quilted maple top, where as the RGX-TT has a flamed maple
body with basswood wings, the pickups are JB trembucker, Vintage
Staggered, Vintage Staggered, where the RGX-TT has JB, Vintage Rails,
Vintage Rails, the bridge is Wilkinson VS50K, where the RGX-TT has a
VS100, and finally, the Cort has a roller nut and the Yamaha has a
plastic nut.
Anyways, I guess the Yamaha is still better though... especially if you
have the nut changed to a graphite one. I'm probably going to do just
that... I love King's X too, although that's not the reason I'm getting
the guitar. :) (In case you don't know, the RGX-TT is the signature
model of Ty Tabor, the guitarist of King's X.)
--
Pekka Kujansuu

Gary Hendershot

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Jan 31, 2002, 12:20:35 AM1/31/02
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Gary [faultl...@yahoo.com] a écrit dans l'article:

>
> I have had an SSC500 (?) triple single coil unit since '84 or so.
> Very nice feel, paid < $200 new...
====================================================================

I have an SSC-500 as well (a "made in Japan" version as opposed to a
"made in Philippines" version). It's almost a perfect morph between
a Strat and an SG. A picture here:

http://www.gary-hendershot.com/instruments/Yamaha_SSC-500.html

--------------------------------------------------------------------


>
> I also have an AES800 dual humbucker for the last few years which
> is my main "axe" (John Fahey once said that anyone who calls a
> guitar an "axe" doesn't know how to play it). I think the AES is
> a great guitar. It has a unique setting on its 5-position switch
> that interacts with a special tone control to give a subtle
> variety of out-of-phase sounds. This knob ONLY works in that
> position!

====================================================================

Yes, I believe I gave one a test drive a year ago or so. It had a
out-of-phase switch including a pan pot that would allow you to
mix between the two out-of-phase humbuckers. >

Gary Hendershot

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Jan 31, 2002, 12:52:32 AM1/31/02
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junkmart [junk...@global2000.net] a écrit dans l'article:
>
>
> DITTO! I just bought an Rgx-TT for $399. (US). (AT MARS MUSIC) It's a
> fantastic guitar! ALTHOUGH: The tuners were loose, the nut is cheesey.
> Other than that, it rocks. LOW action, High sustain...superebly finished
> rosewood f-board (almost feels like ebony). I have a feeling Yamaha pays
> some poor starving Taiwanese luthier a bowl of rice more than Squire does.
> Be careful buying one, though. Each guitar (not just the model) varies
> in feel and craftsmanship...
=====================================================================


I believe the RGX Ty Tabor model is made in either Japan or USA.

junkmart

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Jan 31, 2002, 5:26:26 AM1/31/02
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Could've sworn that it said madi in Taiwan on it somewhere...I'll check it
tonite and get back to you. Honestly...I coud give a rat's backside as to where
it was made...It plays great, sounds incredible, but that nut is just so much
crap. The nut renders the trem useless and it is a tough guitar to intonate. The
nut is the intonation problem. ALSO (and a BIG also): Get used to tuning after
each of the first four songs. The neck is very thin and to me, it seems the
guitar has to warm up before it stays in tune. This was noticed even without
using the trem. I've noticed this on most guitars, but the Yam TT seems to be
much more sensitive to the warm up time. I still keep wondering "What's the
catch?" Before I bought this, I looked at (minimum) 50 guitars in every price
range. This was the only one that actually impressed me as far as feel, sound
and extreme good value.
Dan

Gary Hendershot

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Feb 1, 2002, 3:11:22 AM2/1/02
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junkmart [junk...@global2000.net] a écrit dans l'article:
>
>
>
> Could've sworn that it said madi in Taiwan on it somewhere...
>
===================================================================


Yamaha guitars -- depending on which model -- can be manufactured
in Japan, USA, Korea, Philippines, Indonesia, or Taiwan. I believe
Yamaha was the first Japanese manufacturer to setup manufacturing
outside of Japan, which was the Philippines and Taiwan in the early
1980s. These days, some models have parts and assembly of mixed
origins.

junkmart

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Feb 1, 2002, 5:19:46 AM2/1/02
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Checked out the label...Made in Taiwan. Oh, well............
dan

Gary Hendershot

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Feb 1, 2002, 11:52:27 PM2/1/02
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junkmart [junk...@global2000.net] a écrit dans l'article:
>
>
> Checked out the label...Made in Taiwan. Oh, well.........
> dan
>
=============================================================


The "custom" models Yamaha produce usually come from either their
American or Japanese factories -- I guess there are some
exceptions. Their American guitar plant is in Hollywood, CA.
I believe Warmoth has supplied parts for certain models.

NeilH011

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Feb 1, 2002, 11:56:40 PM2/1/02
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>The "custom" models Yamaha produce usually come from either their
>American or Japanese factories -- I guess there are some
>exceptions. Their American guitar plant is in Hollywood, CA.
>I believe Warmoth has supplied parts for certain models.

I think you're right. Awhile ago I saw a handful of Yammy necks for sale on
their website.

NeilH

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