Fender Two-Tone Amp
David Swanger
I just discovered this in a Musician's Friend
catalogue last night. They were charging around $1150.
For a 15 watt amp.
Who do they think they are, Dr. Z?? (or Victoria,
or Mathless or...)
;-)
If I were a cynic I might think this was a Custom Shop
Blues Junior with an extra speaker, solid pine cabinet
and kooky design. Okay, I kind of like the kooky
design. But not for $1150. If I'd read the description
but the words "Custom Shop" had been left off, I'd have
thought this was a $400, MAYBE $500 amplifier.
I think the big wheels at Fender have seen so many
yuppies (and some actual guitar players too) buy
expensive, low-powered tube amps from boutique amp
companies, my guess is they decided they might as
well jump into this market too. Probably at some
board meeting they talked it over. "These guitar
nuts will buy anything as long as it has tubes in
it and looks cool, let's repackage the Blues Junior
and charge stupid money, we'll sell a ton of them!"
Okay, NOW I'm being a cynic.
Maybe it has an awesome sound. No really. I shouldn't
slam it without trying it. Maybe it's a totally different
amp than the Blues Junior (which for the price is a pretty
good amp, btw).
--
David Swanger
swa...@auburn.edu
Nunya Bidni
"David Swanger" <swa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> http://www.fender.com//customshop/amps/amps2.html
> Maybe it has an awesome sound. No really. I shouldn't
> slam it without trying it. Maybe it's a totally different
> amp than the Blues Junior (which for the price is a pretty
> good amp, btw).
I like mine (Blues Junior)more now than I did when I bought it. A new set
of neighbors helped a lot. :) If it had a LITTLE better feature set
(effect loop, a little more clean headroom, channel switching), it would be
a contender for my main amp. Hell, maybe I need a DeVille.
Ron Thompson
> Maybe it has an awesome sound. No really. I shouldn't
> slam it without trying it.
Good point.
> Maybe it's a totally different amp than the Blues Junior
It is. Sounds nice. More "Tweedy" than a Blues jr. Breaks up pretty good
when you get it up there. Dr. Z, Victoria, all them guys, nobody gave them
sole rights to make little boutique amps. Besides, all their little boutique
amps are is knockoffs of Fender Two Tones, before Fender Two Tones existed.
--
rct
The opinions above are mine and mine alone.
Twang
David Swanger <swa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>
> I just discovered this in a Musician's Friend
> catalogue last night. They were charging around $1150.
> For a 15 watt amp.
>
> Who do they think they are, Dr. Z?? (or Victoria,
> or Mathless or...)
Yes. And, they are.
> ;-)
>
> If I were a cynic I might think this was a Custom Shop
> Blues Junior with an extra speaker, solid pine cabinet
> and kooky design.
I never mistook it for that for a second. I thought this was a Custom Shop
amp... I assume..point to point hand wiring..great attention to detail,
custom voiced...etc.
a boutique amp.
Okay, I kind of like the kooky
> design.
I like the way it looks, and I like the features, too.
10 and 12 inch speakers..and regular tube reverb..
> But not for $1150.
I think the price is too high, too. Though I don't doubt it's a fine amp.
If I'd read the description
> but the words "Custom Shop" had been left off, I'd have
> thought this was a $400, MAYBE $500 amplifier.
No.. not given the Fender nameplate and the differences in construction and
design.
I'd like it a lot more at 800.00.
> I think the big wheels at Fender have seen so many
> yuppies (and some actual guitar players too) buy
> expensive, low-powered tube amps from boutique amp
> companies, my guess is they decided they might as
> well jump into this market too.
Yeah. they've been doing that for a long time, though, really.
That's what reissues are all about, for instance.
'65 Super Reverb.. 1189.00
'65 Twin Reverb.. 993.00
'65 Deluxe Reverb.. 769.00
etc.
Probably at some
> board meeting they talked it over. "These guitar
> nuts will buy anything as long as it has tubes in
> it and looks cool, let's repackage the Blues Junior
> and charge stupid money, we'll sell a ton of them!"
>
> Okay, NOW I'm being a cynic.
Probably they said.. "we have a wonderful reputation with small amps..
examples of fender amplifiers under 25 watts have graced nearly every studio
in the world at one time or another. The players like them, the studios like
them.. and here are all these 'boutique' guys. What say we make a KILLER
little 15 watter and see how it goes?"
> Maybe it has an awesome sound.
Probably will stand apart from a blues jr in strong fashion.
> No really. I shouldn't
> slam it without trying it. Maybe it's a totally different
> amp than the Blues Junior (which for the price is a pretty
> good amp, btw).
I'm sure it is. I like my Hot Rod Deluxe, too. You KNOW the Two Twone has to
be substantially different from the Blues Jr.
Nobody would have the balls you suggest in a period of competition this
great.
I'd love to try one.
I'd nearly buy the Bass Breaker, 1329.00, sight unseen.
> --
> David Swanger
> swa...@auburn.edu
>
>
>
Nick V. Flor
(15W or less) and have the money to buy a Two-Tone, well then for several
hundred less you can buy one of the new Fender Pro Reverbs instead. You'll
get a better clean tone, a real overdrive channel, as well as all tube
reverb, and tremolo. Why anyone would buy a Two-Tone at those prices
(>$1000) is beyond me.
- Nick
"Twang" <twang...@dtgnet.com> wrote in message
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TubeBlaster
Printed circuit board, et al. WAY TOO MUCH MONEY for a BJ.
Wayne
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>
Tom Spellman
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> My understanding is this is just a Blues Junior in sheep's clothing.
> Printed circuit board, et al. WAY TOO MUCH MONEY for a BJ.
>
I am sure I read the same thing somewhere. New package, same guts.
Tom
Twang
Tom Spellman <guitara...@home.com> wrote in message
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liar.. it just seems there must be more to it than that.
Twang!
Tom Spellman
Tom
pfcollen
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> Printed circuit board, et al. WAY TOO MUCH MONEY for a BJ.
>
> Wayne
Yet, some will pay the price for cosmetics. Look at Polfus, ffor instance,
paying extra for
a Bubinga cabinet for his Subway Rocket Reverb. He should have just bought
the Rocket 44
for less money and had more (2x) power on tap and gotten the 12 inch speaker
to boot.
pfcollen
The amp will sound different due to the speaker configuration. From what
I've seen of the control panel, it's a BJ inside.
Twang
pfcollen <pfco...@email.msn.com> wrote in message
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I ran over to the fender amps discussion page and asked around..
it's a blues jr with cosmetic and speaker changes.
that's incredible.
buy a blues jr. change to a weber and hit the high price tube section of
your local store.. voila.. an amp that will probably blow the two tone away,
extra speaker and all.
sheesh.
Twang!
Polfus
>From: "pfcollen" pfco...@email.msn.com
>Yet, some will pay the price for cosmetics. Look at Polfus, ffor instance,
paying extra for a Bubinga cabinet for his Subway Rocket Reverb.>
If you knew how much I actually paid for that hardwood Bubinga cabinet you
would shit on yourself, you idiot.
Clue?
Less than a hundred bucks.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>He should have just bought the Rocket 44 for less money>
To buy a new amp would have been over $600, you stupid dumbass.
>and had more (2x) power on tap>
20 watts of Boogie power is plenty, you arrogant dipshit.
>and gotten the 12 inch speaker to boot.>
My amp's Mesa/Celestion Custom 90 12" speaker was $90.
In your face, boyeee:
http://www.geocities.com/PolfusPage/Mesa1.JPG
I modified my amp before there was ever a Rocket 44 produced!!!!!!!!!!!
So there.
Peace,
Polfus
http://www.geocities.com/PolfusPage
Tom Spellman
>
> >
>
> I ran over to the fender amps discussion page and asked around..
> it's a blues jr with cosmetic and speaker changes.
> that's incredible.
> buy a blues jr. change to a weber and hit the high price tube section of
> your local store.. voila.. an amp that will probably blow the two tone
away,
> extra speaker and all.
> sheesh.
> Twang!
>
doing their homework.
Tom