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Charles Eric Horowitz

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Oct 1, 1994, 2:57:29 PM10/1/94
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Just for the record, I have Led Zeppelin IV on LP so I ran it backwards
and around the part where the drums come in and Plant sings, "Theres still
time to change the road you're on..", backwards it amazingly clearly
says, "Oh my sweet Satan, no other made a path, for it makes me sad whose
power is Satan".

Its pretty clearly heard, though my personal theory is that first, if someone
tells you what someone is saying, and its a little foggy, youll hear what they
say it was, whether its correct or not. Second, there must be some
combonation of words which when played backwards just sounds like the word
Satan, because this sort of thing happens often.

Preston Landers

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Oct 1, 1994, 4:54:56 PM10/1/94
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In article <36kbep$6...@news.duke.edu> ce...@acpub.duke.edu (Charles Eric Horowitz) writes:

>Just for the record, I have Led Zeppelin IV on LP so I ran it backwards
>and around the part where the drums come in and Plant sings, "Theres still
>time to change the road you're on..", backwards it amazingly clearly
>says, "Oh my sweet Satan, no other made a path, for it makes me sad whose
>power is Satan".

This really isn't the right place for it... but oh well.

I ran STH into my Soundblaster and played it backwards. I did not hear this "
Oh My sweet Satan" part... But the line "and it makes me wonder" reverses
rather clearly to "there's no escape."

In either case, it's obviously a coincidence and up to the interpretation of
the listening. For a REAL backwards message, check out Pink Floyd's "The
Wall," on the "Empty Spaces" song. Reversed, it (as plain as day, and
obviously intentionally) says: "Congradulations, you have discovered the
secret message..."

Preston

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Steve Vetter

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Oct 1, 1994, 11:43:26 PM10/1/94
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In <36kbep$6...@news.duke.edu> ce...@acpub.duke.edu writes:

Since I see you're at Duke, just down the road from me, why don't I drop by so
I can verify this...

;-)

Steve

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Mr. Keyes

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Oct 3, 1994, 2:47:25 AM10/3/94
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Seek professional help, muthafucka.

MICHAEL ROBERT MELLA

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Oct 3, 1994, 10:31:13 AM10/3/94
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I don't have the means to play that song backwards, but I remember a
religious show I saw down in Florida last year, where they played a clip of
it and I heard it as "Satan is the one who holds the key to the lock." The
host of the show had three possible explanations for it:
1)Pure coincidence
2)They "Planted"-(That's my little joke!) the message in the recording
3)Demonic intervention--Oooooo!


Patrick Glass

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Oct 3, 1994, 1:48:15 PM10/3/94
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ce...@acpub.duke.edu (Charles Eric Horowitz) writes:

Well, I have that record as well...and I've never heard it that way...I have
heard in "Going to California" that the "watch out" before the bridge sounds
the same forwards and backwards......it's strange -PatricK

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Mike Jones

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Oct 3, 1994, 5:44:41 PM10/3/94
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pglass@comp..uark.edu (Patrick Glass) writes:
>ce...@acpub.duke.edu (Charles Eric Horowitz) writes:
>>Just for the record, I have Led Zeppelin IV on LP so I ran it backwards
>>and around the part where the drums come in and Plant sings, "Theres still
>>time to change the road you're on..", backwards it amazingly clearly
>>says, "Oh my sweet Satan, no other made a path, for it makes me sad whose
>>power is Satan".
>>Its pretty clearly heard, though my personal theory is that first, if someone
>>tells you what someone is saying, and its a little foggy, youll hear what they
>>say it was, whether its correct or not. Second, there must be some
>>combonation of words which when played backwards just sounds like the word
>>Satan, because this sort of thing happens often.
>Well, I have that record as well...and I've never heard it that way...I have
>heard in "Going to California" that the "watch out" before the bridge sounds
>the same forwards and backwards......it's strange -PatricK

When I worked at my college radio station (WRPI), we received a news
report with a list of songs that allegedly had "backward masked"
messages. A few minutes with a reel-to-reel deck later, we had a test
tape. It was pretty impressive; even though we knew *where* the
alleged messages were and clipped out a 15-second or so section of the
song, there was a strong correlation between whether you knew what was
supposed to be there and whether you could hear anything.

Mike Jones | jon...@rpi.edu

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spideir

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Oct 4, 1994, 12:42:36 AM10/4/94
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>>Its pretty clearly heard, though my personal theory is that first, if
someone
>>tells you what someone is saying, and its a little foggy, youll hear what
they
>>say it was, whether its correct or not. Second, there must be some
>>combonation of words which when played backwards just sounds like the word
>>Satan, because this sort of thing happens often.
>>
>
>Seek professional help, muthafucka.

!sevren s'nataS no gnitteg si yug tsal sihT


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Daniel J. Carreira /ADVISOR Clay

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Oct 4, 1994, 5:55:12 PM10/4/94
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If you have the CD take the bitwise complement of the CRCs and use
them as the keys to decode the other data on the disc using the DES
algorithm. You'll get Santanaic messages (oye comom va...)

:)

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Jason A. Goodman

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Oct 5, 1994, 5:07:23 PM10/5/94
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Hell, while we are on the kick, try Def Lep's Pyromania (Oonta gleetin
glot...... etc...) We got, "The golden cloud will be at noon" It's a stretch
though.
Try the piece at the end of Prince's darling nikki too.

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Stephen Twelker

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Oct 6, 1994, 1:58:16 PM10/6/94
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In article <Cx347...@umassd.edu> dke...@umassd.edu writes:
>In article <36kbep$6...@news.duke.edu>, ce...@acpub.duke.edu (Charles Eric Horowitz) writes:
>>Just for the record, I have Led Zeppelin IV on LP so I ran it backwards
>>and around the part where the drums come in and Plant sings, "Theres still
>>time to change the road you're on..", backwards it amazingly clearly
>>says, "Oh my sweet Satan, no other made a path, for it makes me sad whose
>>power is Satan".

Does anyone have the tablature for this?

Warren Stampe

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Oct 6, 1994, 11:42:34 PM10/6/94
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In article <36kbep$6...@news.duke.edu> ce...@acpub.duke.edu (Charles Eric Horowitz) writes:
>From: ce...@acpub.duke.edu (Charles Eric Horowitz)
>Subject: Stairway's Backwards Lyrics
>Date: 1 Oct 1994 14:57:29 -0400


Did you see the court case b/w Judas Priest and the kid who tried to
blow his own head off?
(supossedly due to backwards lyrics).

J.P's case was very good in proving what you said.

Your Name Here

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Oct 6, 1994, 1:42:20 PM10/6/94
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Rsponding to the stairway responses.
when i was about twelve i had heard something about playing it backwards
etc... but no facts or anything. so one day i tried it. I had allways
though the lyrics"It's just a spring clean for the May queen" were
suspicious so i started there. Eurekea... NOTHING but i kept on spinning
it backwards and all of the sudden i clearly hear "My sweet Satan" it is
unmistakeable... it is somewhere around "There's still time to change the
road you're on". One other little tidbit is that i was so thrilled i
played the whole thing backwards. the only other thing i found was
that at one point he says "I wish it would snow". pretty cool huh.

Roger Meech

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Oct 7, 1994, 1:05:46 PM10/7/94
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I've heard the backwards lyrics in Stairway To Heaven and they
are quite clear. A friend of mine once dragged me off to a
seminar put on by his church that basically labelled rock 'n' roll
as evil. They used the backwards lyrics as an example of Satan at
work. It was great! I got to hear all the famous examples
of backwards lyrics. The clearest one, I thought, was in Queen's
Another One Bites the Dust. The main line 'Another one bites the
dust' played backwards sounds like 'start to smoke marijuana' quite
clearly.

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DoNothing

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Oct 8, 1994, 12:53:04 AM10/8/94
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Hey, I was listening to Stairway backwards the other day and I heard,
clear as a bell:

YOU F***ING IDIOT. GET A LIFE!!! IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING BETTER TO DO
THAN LISTEN TO RECORDS BACKWARDS, THEN YOU'RE A F***ING LOSER!!!

...at least that's what it sounded like to me.

spideir

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Oct 8, 1994, 2:46:41 PM10/8/94
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I could only figure out part of it, but here goes--

------------S----
----------A------
--------T--------
------A----------
----N------------
-----------------

I bend the "N" up a quarter-tone, but not sure if Jimmy does on the
original. . . .


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Phillip Lord

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Oct 10, 1994, 3:01:35 PM10/10/94
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I don tunderstand all this stuff about backwards lyrics. Cant we have an
argument about what the forward lyrics mean

For instance "if theres a bustle in your hedgerow dont be alarmed now" is
a clear reference to the menarch if I ever heard one. The whole thing is laced
with sexual and religious symbolism all the way through. Why bother with playing
it backwards if you want to be outraged. Forward works as well.

Phil


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Tony Bowden

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Oct 10, 1994, 2:55:43 PM10/10/94
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Roger Meech (rm...@hcsd.hac.com) wrote:
>The clearest one, I thought, was in Queen's
>Another One Bites the Dust. The main line 'Another one bites the
>dust' played backwards sounds like 'start to smoke marijuana' quite
>clearly.

Hmm - I always heard it as 'it's fun to smoke a banana' ....

Tony

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anders skagen

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Oct 11, 1994, 12:13:44 PM10/11/94
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All this talk about backwards lyrics.....

Couldn't somebody post a .wav file with some examples ?
If not in this newsgroup, then maybe in alt.binaries.sounds.music.


Jay Bedsole

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Oct 11, 1994, 4:47:23 PM10/11/94
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In article <373v5a$3...@hacgate2.hac.com>, rm...@hcsd.hac.com (Roger Meech)
wrote:

> The clearest one, I thought, was in Queen's Another One Bites the Dust.
> The main line 'Another one bites the dust' played backwards sounds like
> 'start to smoke marijuana' quite clearly.

Anyone can dream up a phrase, run it backwards, and get some meaningless
dribble. But to have a phrase like 'start to smoke marijuana' come out in
reverse as 'Another one bites the dust' - now *that's* cool! ;-)

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Jay Bedsole

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Oct 11, 1994, 6:03:46 PM10/11/94
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Tor Houghton

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Oct 14, 1994, 7:17:23 AM10/14/94
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Roger Meech (rm...@hcsd.hac.com) wrote:
> I've heard the backwards lyrics in Stairway To Heaven and they
> are quite clear. A friend of mine once dragged me off to a
> seminar put on by his church that basically labelled rock 'n' roll
> as evil. They used the backwards lyrics as an example of Satan at
> work. It was great! I got to hear all the famous examples
> of backwards lyrics. The clearest one, I thought, was in Queen's
> Another One Bites the Dust. The main line 'Another one bites the
> dust' played backwards sounds like 'start to smoke marijuana' quite
> clearly.

Cool. Did you guys realize that there was this priest up here in the
UK who'd restrapped his turntable so it would play vinyls in reverse?

What a nutcase.

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John Mayer

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Oct 17, 1994, 1:16:46 AM10/17/94
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Well the clearest backwards message would have to be the beginning of the
what does it mean if that's
influenced by the devil???

Zoso
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Klaus Rotter

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Oct 16, 1994, 6:06:22 AM10/16/94
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Phillip Lord (phi...@jura.hgu.mrc.ac.uk) wrote:

: For instance "if theres a bustle in your hedgerow dont be alarmed now" is


: a clear reference to the menarch if I ever heard one. The whole thing is laced
: with sexual and religious symbolism all the way through. Why bother with playing
: it backwards if you want to be outraged. Forward works as well.

You are totally right. Nobody has to hear it backwards to figure out
that there is something like "occultism" in there. I do not speak
against the song, (I play it myself, because I like the way Jimmy
Page plays it) but I think anybody who hears/plays/sings it should
know it's meaning.

I have a discussion with a friend of mine, also a guitarplayer, and
he says "Forget all the shit about the backward messages, they say
clearly forward what they want to say" (his words!)

I was just interessed if there's really a backward message in
there. I've heard a lot in my youth about backward messages, but I
never tested it. One point was also that I'm not an english native
speaker, so I thought maybe I'm not able to hear anything at all.

In fact, the words of "Stairway to Heaven" are very easy for me to
translate, but not the meaning of the words. We never dealt with
mystical symbols in our english lessons at school. ;-)

So I would like to see if soemone gives me a few hints about the
meaning of the words. I know also that this is not the right
newsgroup for doing so, but I don't read much more english
newsgroups.

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John Mayer

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Oct 17, 1994, 1:27:00 AM10/17/94
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Well, it seems the editor gods are against me.

the message should reference the beginning of the second side of
Kilroy was here by styx. (you'll need to brush up the latin)

and if that message was influenced by the devil then beware indeed.

Zoso
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Mustard Seed

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Oct 20, 1994, 6:10:07 PM10/20/94
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In article <chris.782613789@labtam> ch...@labtam.labtam.oz.au (Chris Taylor) writes:
>From: ch...@labtam.labtam.oz.au (Chris Taylor)
>Subject: Re: Stairway's Backwards Lyrics
>Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 00:43:09 GMT

>to...@central.susx.ac.uk (Tor Houghton) writes:

>>Cool. Did you guys realize that there was this priest up here in the
>>UK who'd restrapped his turntable so it would play vinyls in reverse?
>>What a nutcase.

>He will probably have to buy a sampler soon to continue with this hobby
>as vinyls become scarce.


>Actually I heard that there is a DEATH METAL band whose songs
>when played in reverse generate the phases:

>"Eat your vegetables"
>"Love your parents"
>"Clean your room"
>"Be kind to old people"
>"God is the answer"


>...just kidding
The beatles were the first band to intentionally insert backward lyrics into
songs (revolution 9), but for the most part, if they aren't clear when you
play it backwards, they are there by chance. People hear what they want to
hear or are told to hear as determined by their perceptual set. There is no
evidence that such "backward messages" actually affect the mind or are even
understood by the mind. The subconcious merely records data, not evaluate
it. So if you can't understand it conciously, you are not affected by it.
This was evidenced in the legal system when in 1989 two families sued Judas
Priest allegating that backward messages in their album "Stained Class"
caused two young boys to commit suicide. The courts found the evidence
insubstantial, in that they could not even tell what the album said
backwards without being told what it said. The band was acquited of the
charges.
mS

Chris Taylor

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Oct 19, 1994, 8:43:09 PM10/19/94
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to...@central.susx.ac.uk (Tor Houghton) writes:

>Cool. Did you guys realize that there was this priest up here in the
>UK who'd restrapped his turntable so it would play vinyls in reverse?
>What a nutcase.

He will probably have to buy a sampler soon to continue with this hobby

Trent Andrew Riggs

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Oct 19, 1994, 8:27:45 PM10/19/94
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In article <782590...@truleigh.demon.co.uk>, j...@truleigh.demon.co.uk (James Fryer) writes:

|> What evidence is there that the human mind can pick up on these "backwards
|> messages" even if they are there? Has any research ever been done on this?

|> I cannot see how a message played backwards can transmit any meaning to a
|> listener. It is like the so-called "subliminal advertising" of the 60s
|> which simply didn't work.

I guess I've always thought that the controversy was more that the message was there, not that it had any effect when heard backwards... I could be wrong.

Trent

James Fryer

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Oct 19, 1994, 6:58:38 AM10/19/94
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I have hesitated to join this non-tab discussion up until now, but there
is something that has always mystified me about the "backwards lyrics"
debate.

What evidence is there that the human mind can pick up on these "backwards
messages" even if they are there? Has any research ever been done on this?

I cannot see how a message played backwards can transmit any meaning to a
listener. It is like the so-called "subliminal advertising" of the 60s
which simply didn't work.

Jim
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