Does this group have an image problem?
D.Onstenk
guitarists are pissed at some of the dissing and from direct experience I
know at least one name player that doesn't like this group at all (he was
dissed) and he said something among the same lines as Jack's source:
"Don't expect a reference or favor from me" and he actually still remembered
the names of the guys that hurt him.
If this is a trend we might have an image problem. Is that what we want?
#####
D.Onstenk
Jimmy Bruno
"D.Onstenk" <d.on...@chello.nl> wrote in message
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D.Onstenk
D.Onstenk
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D.Onstenk
D.Onstenk
Joey Goldstein
like to know.
I hope I wasn't one of the guys to send a barb his way.
Years ago I did a mostly negative review of one of Bruce Forman's albums
in the Jazz Report magazine. I always felt bad about that. He's such a
great player and so many miles ahead of me in so many ways.
This shit can and will bite you on the ass.
--
Joey Goldstein
http://www.joeygoldstein.com
joegold AT sympatico DOT ca
Steven Rosenberg
respectful when it comes down to it. Nowhere else can you find such
instant support for any problem, be it gear, theory or technique. It's
like there's one super-giant brain out there, albeit one with an
occasional, small anger-management problem.
And there are quite a few pros who participate in the discussions,
which adds greatly to the level of conversation. They do a lot of good
for the rest of us, and hopefully some for themselves as well, gaining
fans along the way.
Remember, A) We all are learning; even the pros can improve or add to
their skills. B) As they say, "Different strokes for different folks"
-- we won't all like everything, and there's plenty of room for
variety and individuality. and c) If you aspire to be a professional
musician, you must learn to deal with criticism. You can learn from
it, shrug it off, ignore it, or let it stop you from going on. The
choice is yours, but no matter how good you are, somebody's not going
to like what you do and won't hesitate to tell you about it -- and
probably in print, too. Think of the kinds of negative criticism
people like Bird, Trane, Monk and Miles received. Follow your own
heart and dreams, do your own evaluation, listen to those you respect.
Those who must go on will go on. That's how the process works, not
just in music.
When it comes to journalism, the people I've admired the most weren't
always the best. Persistence and willingness to learn will open many
more doors than talent. Of course, once you're in that door, it's time
to get the chops required to stay in the room and open further doors
to ever better opportunities. And just like in music, availability,
reliability and ability to work with others is just as important as
talent.
Food for thought,
Steven Rosenberg
steven_h_rosenberg(AT sign here)yahoo.com
"D.Onstenk" <d.on...@chello.nl> wrote in message news:<2jgd1bF...@uni-berlin.de>...
Mr.Will
Mr.Will
"Jimmy Bruno" <ji...@jimmybruno.com> wrote in message
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Mr.Will
What are you accusing me of here? If you notice YOU posted the original on
this, not me.
I only wanted to know what the incident was - I didnt know what had
happened.
Follow your own advice it would seem.
Mr.Will
----- Original Message -----
From: d.onstenk
To: Mr.Will
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: Does this group have an image problem?
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl4058361260d&dq=&hl=nl&lr=&ie=UTF-8&se
lm=bktjcv%245o94m%241%40ID-173106.news.uni-berlin.de
Please do not stir this up again.
#####
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mr.Will" <mr....@ntlworld.com>
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar.jazz
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: Does this group have an image problem?
> Who was he and what exactly was the incident?
>
> Mr.Will
>
> "Jimmy Bruno" <ji...@jimmybruno.com> wrote in message
> news:WKmdnXX1xdk...@comcast.com...
> > I know the gentleman you speak of... he was not amused
D.Onstenk
the link AS you requested information and then you post it publicly? Are you
a psychologist? Man you cannot even read one simple e-mail.
I did not want to stir up the original Conti thread so I sent you the link
privately and now you actually post this in public?
######
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Harm-Olodic
people were for getting dissed. If someone said I had bad time, even
if I didn't respect his opinion, I'd understand that a certain group
of people are going to think I have bad time. I'll evaluate what they
said (if they gave specific examples I'd check out what they meant)
and if I thought that with some minor tweaking it can be fixed, I'd
try to fix it to please a certain demographic.
However, if said person is criticizing the things I like about my
style, then I wouldn't change it. I'm sure some people told Bird he
had bad time
Jimmy Bruno
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Jimmy Bruno
saw the thread about image etc... and I remembered a few guys that I know
that were genuinely hurt by what was said about them
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Ben webster, too many notes, more melodic etc. this is an old scenario
that's been going on for years, in all of the arts.
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D.Onstenk
post it in public again because he thought I was accusing him of anything
(???????? what on earth is he talking about????? ). Well, I have always
known that shrinks are paranoia.
######
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Jack Zucker
anyone to search on. I suggest the original author go read the google FAQ
and remove it.
--
Experience a revolutionary way to approach the instrument.
Introducing Sheets of Sound for Guitar
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governing the way you play music!"
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Jack Zucker
decided not to participate based on negative comments being made about
established players.
As my friend Ed Degenaro says, "Anyone can type a good solo..." :-)
--
Experience a revolutionary way to approach the instrument.
Introducing Sheets of Sound for Guitar
"Let the music govern the way you play guitar instead of the guitar
governing the way you play music!"
Check it out at:
http://www.sheetsofsound.net
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gtrmon
> Can the original poster remove it from Google?
Hmmmmmmm..............
D.Onstenk
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anything negative said about himnews:hfadnXTNR_y...@comcast.com...
Jimmy Bruno
"Jack Zucker" <j...@jackzucker.com> wrote in message
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Jack Zucker
--
Experience a revolutionary way to approach the instrument.
Introducing Sheets of Sound for Guitar
"Let the music govern the way you play guitar instead of the guitar
governing the way you play music!"
Check it out at:
http://www.sheetsofsound.net
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D.Onstenk
work to do.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Zucker" <j...@jackzucker.com>
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar.jazz
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 12:39 AM
Subject: Re: Does this group have an image problem?
> Yes, google allows you to remove your own postings.
>
"Jack Zucker" <j...@jackzucker.com> schreef in bericht
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Unknown
wrote:
>The Thick Skin thread got me thinking. Jack said he knew some name
>guitarists are pissed at some of the dissing and from direct experience I
>know at least one name player that doesn't like this group at all (he was
>dissed) and he said something among the same lines as Jack's source:
>
>"Don't expect a reference or favor from me" and he actually still remembered
>the names of the guys that hurt him.
>
>If this is a trend we might have an image problem. Is that what we want?
>
>#####
>
>
Fuck 'em. This group is what it is and it ain't what it ain't.
I love RMMGJ and don't particularly care if one or two big name
players get their feelings hurt. RMMGJ doesn't exist for big name
players to get stroked. If RMMGJ doesn't suit the purposes of
somebody, they don't have to come back. We'll be here arguing as
usual and loving it whether Joe Famous is here or not.
This group is:
An incredible resource for information about jazz guitar playing
A great way to get information about gear without having to read those
stupid guitar magazines
A place where you can ask questions to genuine experts about all
aspects of guitar playing
A way to escape into what we love for a few minutes a day
A place to get a view of the world of music beyond our own locality
A way to meet people we couldn't possibly meet any other way
A good laugh from time to time
A place where those who like to fight can have a barroom brawl and not
have to spend the night in jail or the ER afterward.
This group isn't:
A place to seek unadulterated praise
A good place to market your career
A place for the thin skinned
Tim
P.S.
Dick Onstenk is one of the bravest players I've ever seen. He opens
himself up to criticism with every file he posts, but he keeps
posting. Joe Famous should be as brave as Dick.
http://timberens.com
A Website for Guitarists
Learn something...Have some fun
timb at erinet dot com
Mr.Will
Will you be at the Wrexham event again this year?
It sounds like a great time.
Mr.Will
"Jimmy Bruno" <ji...@jimmybruno.com> wrote in message
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Mr.Will
My first response was to Jimmy Bruno, when I got the email, I didn't get the
link, only plain text and a message asking me not to stir this up "again". I
took exception to this, and felt public response was neccessary - I've had a
few emails before with snidy "non public" comments, and refuse to accept it.
I'm sorry I mistook your email for one of those.
Mr.Will
"D.Onstenk" <d.on...@chello.nl> wrote in message
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thomas
> The original post read:
>
> The Thick Skin thread got me thinking. Jack said he knew some name
> guitarists are pissed at some of the dissing and from direct experience I
> know at least one name player that doesn't like this group at all (he was
> dissed) and he said something among the same lines as Jack's source:
>
> "Don't expect a reference or favor from me" and he actually still remembered
> the names of the guys that hurt him.
>
> If this is a trend we might have an image problem. Is that what we want?
The major part of self-esteem is becoming accomplished at
something tangible. The other part is not caring what
strangers think about you. Anyone who doesn't understand
this has some maturing to do. And by "anyone", I mean the
"name player" you heard from, whoever he is.
"Don't expect a reference or favor from me" is a petty and
unnecessarily antagonistic response to someone who went to
the time and expense of buying your album, listening to it,
and reviewing it in a public forum. Is the "name player"
willing to refund the money the reviewer laid out for the
CD, or is that a "favor"?
thom_j
<Tim Berens> wrote:
I kinda' follow Tim B's sentiments, but with me, I like to be more
toned down & more on the brighter side as an observer because
I certianly will not hold a candle to most here, nor will I try..
All the "fantabulous" info, fun and togetherness is just great here
within rmmgj.. Me as a nay'sayer to anyone? Naaaah it just aint
my bag.. I juzt love youz guyz(galz) so Group Hug 2 U'all! 8^)'..
cheers from ole hippy tee'...
> Fxxx 'em. This group is what it is and it ain't what it ain't.
Jack Zucker
> > This group isn't:
> >
> > A place to seek unadulterated praise
> > A good place to market your career
> > A place for the thin skinned
> >
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >
> > P.S.
> >
> > Dick Onstenk is one of the bravest players I've ever seen. He opens
> > himself up to criticism with every file he posts, but he keeps
> > posting. Joe Famous should be as brave as Dick.
Huh?!? I think Joe Famous living in NY and working his ass off to get gigs,
records and continue to work on his craft is plenty brave.
Come on folks - Get some perspective! :-)
Kurt Shapiro
care. Tim, I've been digging your posts so much lately I could almost turn
vegetarian.
<Tim Berens> wrote in message news:40d3770a....@news.core.com...
Unknown
wrote:
>> >
>> > Dick Onstenk is one of the bravest players I've ever seen. He opens
>> > himself up to criticism with every file he posts, but he keeps
>> > posting. Joe Famous should be as brave as Dick.
>
>Huh?!? I think Joe Famous living in NY and working his ass off to get gigs,
>records and continue to work on his craft is plenty brave.
>
Yup, true.
I meant to pay a compliment to Dick -- not to insult any of the Joe
Famouses, or and of the Joe Almost Famouses or any of the Joe Ain't
Gonna Be Famous But Still Works Hards. Or any Josephine Famouses,
Josephine Almost Famouses, etc.
I think Dick is a brave player.
Tim
Joe Finn
<Tim Berens> wrote
>
> Fuck 'em. This group is what it is and it ain't what it ain't.
>
> I love RMMGJ and don't particularly care if one or two big name
> players get their feelings hurt. RMMGJ doesn't exist for big name
> players to get stroked. If RMMGJ doesn't suit the purposes of
> somebody, they don't have to come back. We'll be here arguing as
> usual and loving it whether Joe Famous is here or not.
>
>
> This group is:
>
> An incredible resource for information about jazz guitar playing
> A great way to get information about gear without having to read those
> stupid guitar magazines
> A place where you can ask questions to genuine experts about all
> aspects of guitar playing
> A way to escape into what we love for a few minutes a day
> A place to get a view of the world of music beyond our own locality
> A way to meet people we couldn't possibly meet any other way
> A good laugh from time to time
> A place where those who like to fight can have a barroom brawl and not
> have to spend the night in jail or the ER afterward.
>
> This group isn't:
>
> A place to seek unadulterated praise
> A good place to market your career
> A place for the thin skinned
>
>
> Tim
You are right on. Your description of the group is "what it is".
And it most assuredly ain't what it ain't, by the ever-loving way.
I say "fuck 'em", too. I listen closely to what you have to say. I take it
to heart. I share it with my students. I know you are up against the same
wall as me. It's the same with Kevin, Jimmy, Steve, Ted, Rick, etc.
............joe
P.S. My gig tonite sucked.
I'm pissed.
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D.Onstenk
never a good idea to post private e-mails to a newsgroup. That was what
pissed me off. For the rest, I had a bad day at the group, it's been kind of
rowdy here anyway over the last few days.
######
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server. I felt this was not the best of time to post it. But Jimmy had
already replied. Ah well ...
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question about that.
D.Onstenk
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you tooknews:bNLAc.1627$og1....@newsfe6-gui.server.ntli.net...
Rick Ross
remember when you left the group..then came back...
you're stuck man:) you're swirling in the vortex..
you're here to stay...so when's the next clip?
"D.Onstenk" <d.on...@chello.nl> wrote in message
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Jimmy Bruno
idea was to write some new things and get a new band and to complete 3
projects that I need to finish for Bill Bay. I find myself spending my time
here with you all. I haven't been around in a while. I forgot how much fun
this can be. I enjoy all the posts and learn something form time to time,
even if it's learning what not to say.
Remember in the beginning?
Here's how my posts went:
You are wrong! Are you a fuckin' moron
Anyone who does it that way is an idiot
Fuck you asshole
That' the jerk-off method
Etc
Etc
Etc
Hopefully, I will get some work done but it is nice to just lay around and
do nothing. Maybe I'll take a""" typinG CourSe'!2
"Rick Ross" <rickfrossyou...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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thom_j
> Maybe I'll take a""" typinG CourSe'!2
Why? you're doing so much better now... 8^)'. thom_j.
thomas
>
> Dick Onstenk is one of the bravest players I've ever seen. He opens
> himself up to criticism with every file he posts, but he keeps
> posting. Joe Famous should be as brave as Dick.
It's been so much fun watching #### develop from a promising
intermediate into a gig-worthy player. Very impressive
and rapid growth, especially for a middle-aged guy. Keep it
up, ####.
D.Onstenk
I feel this here group has had a lot to do with my development. It simply
kept me going. It's been inspiring. If you start something important so late
in life (got my first jazz lesson at 38) and you want something with it,
there's no time to lose I figured ....
I don't know if I am brave. I don't have that much to lose. I am no artist,
no pro, just a fun player. I love to play and I love jazz though and I do
take it seriously and spend a lot of time on it. But I know I will never be
an artist and I am totally at peace with that. I even doubt I will ever make
a serious effort to record a CD or write originals. Just want to play bebop,
whether people like it or not. I know darned well that bebop is not
everybody's cup of tea, not even here on this jazz group. It's old music
after all and probably not very hip. But as a fun player I can afford not to
pursue artistic goals. Heck I can even afford to suck from an objective
point of view (not subjective though, I don't want to suck really).
But without the internet no one of you would ever have heard of me. And I
don't think I would ever have had this drive to get better. So thanks for
the inspiration all of you. It worked.
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pmfan57
> Remember in the beginning?
> Here's how my posts went:
> You are wrong! Are you a fuckin' moron
> Anyone who does it that way is an idiot
> Fuck you asshole
> That' the jerk-off method
> Etc
> Etc
> Etc
> Hopefully, I will get some work done but it is nice to just lay around and
Phillies in the World Series ;)
I remember when I first started reading this newsgroup, at least some
people didn't think you were the real Jimmy Bruno and were really
going after "you" for that reason I guess.
Others just couldn't get over that thing about rock guitarists in the
very first issue of JJG (1994!!!!). Remember that? Of course, they
didn't know that you appreciate all kinds of serious players, even if
not jazz. I seem to recall you liked Clapton, Alvin Lee and great
country players like Bryant and obviously Hank Garland. In other
words, people who are dedicated to their art.
Boy those were the good old days.
As to this group, anyone who has ever checked out any other group
would think this is the most polite and respectful group of any of
them. The so called flame wars here are nothing compared to the
positively thermonuclear ones that occur on other newsgroups.
Jimmy Bruno
mail !!!!!!!! Another thing I learned, you have to get the writer to forward
you the article before it goes to print. LEaving out one qualifying
statement changes the entire meaning of what you said. There are two more in
depth interviews coming out. I did a lot of recanting. My tastes and
opinions have changed a lot over the last ten years. Unfortuntaely, my
typing has not imporved at all.
Don't care about the Phillies, I'll bet the Yankees kick their ass
on another note, you'd be surprised how many "name guitarists" don't know
about this group or how to get to it. I mention it to them from time to
time and I get "huh where is that".
"pmfan57" <jwra...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Gerry
<d.on...@chello.nl> wrote:
> The Thick Skin thread got me thinking. Jack said he knew some name
> guitarists are pissed at some of the dissing and from direct experience I
> know at least one name player that doesn't like this group at all (he was
> dissed) and he said something among the same lines as Jack's source:
>
> "Don't expect a reference or favor from me" and he actually still remembered
> the names of the guys that hurt him.
>
> If this is a trend we might have an image problem. Is that what we want?
"The group" seems to be something we need to fix, something we take
pride in, something we don't want sullied by trolls, something that has
a life outside it's participants. I'm not positive but think it was
Duke that when approached on a matter of finance wanted to step off the
bandstand and discuss it in the wings or on the dance floor. "The
bandstand is like a pulpit", he said, "you have to keep it clean".
I've read in a relationship book once that arguments were never to be
held in the bedroom, but somewhere else in the house. The bedroom was
to retain it's sanctity; a place of peace, sleep, love, privacy, etc.
To me, this group is like a bookshelf or a garage. A place that
things, useless and useful, trash and treasure, are intentionally
stored in, or incidentally migrate to.
There is no sanctity here. To speak about this newsgroup as a fixed
static item, shunned by the "greats" because some participants are
naughty or amateur, to be admired as a place of community and
comraderie.
Discussions of the newsgroup and it's future, the participants and
their skills, attitudes, personalities; I'm not sure the benefits of
it. I mean one can write a book about the art of writing. Then one
writes a review of the book about writing. I'm unsure what the value
is. If we carp or endorse one social attitude or a method of
organization, the group stumbles along however it will anyway.
This group has been useful to me, and it has been a thorn in my side.
It's a good forum for meaningful conversation, and hopeless place of
seemingly vacuous monologue without end.
This has been one of the later.
--
First they gerrymander us into one-party fiefs. Then they tell us they only
care about the swing districts. Then they complain about voter apathy.
-- Gail Collins
Jimmy Bruno
There's nothing to say. It seems that whatever you say or express can get
taken personally, like if I disagree with someone seems to be a lot
different when someone else disagrees. Maybe I'm wrong but that's what i
think. A lot of guys won't discuss gear because of endorsements and what
not, and record companies and agents. Most pros I knkow aren't into the
gear thing at all. I personally am not, at least about guitars. But Ido
understand it. I am nuts when it comes to recording gear( I am building a
studio), which is a new thing and anything to so with photography. Lenses,
cameras, film, digital, exposures etc. Just like harmony, chords how do you
so this or that etc. Not any different than most guys here execpt it's my
job so my passion for the instrument and music is different than a guy who
plays for fun or a hobby. Some of those guys play just as good as anyone on
record too. They just don't do it for a living. Then there is the
recognitioni factor. that's a whole other can of worms. I have a few
theories about that too. Anyone who has attended one of my clinics knows my
speech. I give it at the end of most clinics.
Most of the guys I know are not going to get into the theory thing or
comment on someone's playing etc. I don't think they get upset if something
negative is said about them, at least not usually. I have shown some
negative things to someone who was the "let's trash him today thing" and he
thought it was hilarious. One guy got really steamed. Who knows really. I
like this group and most of the guys here. I have a good time reading posts
and discussions etc. and I lerNEd How To&& TypE....
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Jimmy Bruno
would't change a thing. It is what it is. Wow, I turned into a long winded
fat bastardnews:EYWdnb7NaLR...@comcast.com...
Max Leggett
I look on this group as being like a bar where a lot of guitarists
hang out. So it's a good place to hang out if you like talking guitar
and jazz. Just like any bar, there are regulars to avoid - Old Twerpy
in the corner gets steamed up and starts shouting if you even mention
roundwound strings, and Gumbo over there doesn't know a fret from a
feret.
And some of the regulars are a wealth of information and good advice.
Some, like me, enjoy the humour and only pipe up strictly guitar
related things if it's something I'm particularly solid on - changes
to a particular song, or whatever. Every now and then a slobbering
drunk walks in and wonders why he can't get served.
Some of the regulars are on a different wavelength altogether from me,
so I don't pay them much attention; others I make a point of reading
their posts. On occasion there's a lot of hot air - so and so sold
out; this guy plays crap nowadays, he ought to hve kept playing the
same as he did when he was 20 - and sometimes the hot air gets
overheard. The hand you bite today might cuff you round the lugole
tomorrow.
But it's just like a bar where you'd hang out, talk music, get
listening tips, and occasionally learn something. Mine's a Bud.
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Mondoslug1
> I am nuts when it comes to recording gear( I am building a
>studio), which is a new thing
Cool, what recording format are you going to be using or thinking about?
Jimmy Bruno
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Jimmy Bruno
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Greger Hoel
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>Me too, Max. Well said. Only wish there were more .... well you know .... in
>this bar.
More herbs, like in Amster? :P
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Mondoslug1
>I am using pro tools 96K and a Roland VS-2480
Nice...Digi 002?
>"Mondoslug1" <mondo...@aol.comwaht> wrote in message
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Jimmy Bruno
converter
"Mondoslug1" <mondo...@aol.comwaht> wrote in message
Mondoslug1
>yes Digi 002 but the Roland gets a much better sound.
That's interesting. Do you have the 2 sync'd?
Jimmy Bruno
have learned the Roland I haven't used the pro tools much. I did my new
solo guitar CD on the Roland, mixed and mastered. There were only two
splices. I wanted to try to capture a performance. every day I got up at 5
AM and played for about an hour and a half. One morning I got an entire CD
that I liked. That's what I sent out to the record company
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Kevin Van Sant
<ji...@jimmybruno.com> wrote in message
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>No, I do the recording on the Roland and edit on Pro Tools but now that I
>have learned the Roland I haven't used the pro tools much. I did my new
>solo guitar CD on the Roland, mixed and mastered. There were only two
>splices. I wanted to try to capture a performance. every day I got up at 5
>AM and played for about an hour and a half. One morning I got an entire CD
>that I liked. That's what I sent out to the record company
Mic'd, amp, blend?
For you guys who do home recording on a computer, how do you deal with
the sound of computer fans coming through the mics? I mean, you've
got to be near the computer to operate the recording functions don't
you? Mine is too loud to have a mic in the same room.
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Kevin Van Sant
jazz guitar
http://www.kevinvansant.com
to buy my CDs, hear sound clips, see videos, and get more info.
Alternate site for recent soundclips
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/kevinvansant_music.htm
Mondoslug1
>On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:49:36 -0400, "Jimmy Bruno"
><ji...@jimmybruno.com> wrote in message
><etCdnVOSoME...@comcast.com> :
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>>No, I do the recording on the Roland and edit on Pro Tools but now that I
>>have learned the Roland I haven't used the pro tools much. I did my new
>>solo guitar CD on the Roland, mixed and mastered. There were only two
>>splices. I wanted to try to capture a performance. every day I got up at 5
>>AM and played for about an hour and a half. One morning I got an entire CD
>>that I liked. That's what I sent out to the record company
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>Mic'd, amp, blend?
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>For you guys who do home recording on a computer, how do you deal with
>the sound of computer fans coming through the mics? I mean, you've
>got to be near the computer to operate the recording functions don't
>you? Mine is too loud to have a mic in the same room.
Amp & or cab mic'd in another room.
I also bought some 25 ft. mouse, keyboard & Monitor cables enabling me to put
all that stuff in another room with me if I'm micing an acoustic. Works pretty
well.
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>Kevin Van Sant
>jazz guitar
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>http://www.kevinvansant.com
>to buy my CDs, hear sound clips, see videos, and get more info.
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>Alternate site for recent soundclips
>http://www.soundclick.com/bands/kevinvansant_music.htm
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JMK
news:2jgd1bF...@uni-berlin.de:
> The Thick Skin thread got me thinking. Jack said he knew some name
> guitarists are pissed at some of the dissing and from direct
> experience I know at least one name player that doesn't like this
> group at all (he was dissed) and he said something among the same
> lines as Jack's source:
>
> "Don't expect a reference or favor from me" and he actually still
> remembered the names of the guys that hurt him.
>
> If this is a trend we might have an image problem. Is that what we
> want?
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I'm a pure hack, and I look at this group as a source of
information and advice. I don't post a lot (I've not got
much to convey other than a pure love of the music) but I
do listen. And if some have issues with the way they are
criticized on the group, well that's too bad, really. If
nothing else, the criticisms aren't of the "the guy sucks"
variety. They at least evidence a fair degree of thinking
and listening.
JMK
Kevin Van Sant
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>Amp & or cab mic'd in another room.
>I also bought some 25 ft. mouse, keyboard & Monitor cables enabling me to put
>all that stuff in another room with me if I'm micing an acoustic. Works pretty
>well.
what about mic on the guitar? That's the one I can't do. I've got a
nice large diaphragm condenser mic but it picks up every slightest
sound. I can use it with my MD but not my computer.
Mondoslug1
>On 21 Jun 2004 02:27:14 GMT, mondo...@aol.comwaht (Mondoslug1)
>wrote in message <20040620222714...@mb-m07.aol.com> :
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>>Amp & or cab mic'd in another room.
>>I also bought some 25 ft. mouse, keyboard & Monitor cables enabling me to
>put
>>all that stuff in another room with me if I'm micing an acoustic. Works
>pretty
>>well.
>
>what about mic on the guitar? That's the one I can't do. I've got a
>nice large diaphragm condenser mic but it picks up every slightest
>sound. I can use it with my MD but not my computer.
Kevin Van Sant:
I made a little "iso" room out of my closet where I had the Monitor, Keyboard,
& Mouse in there with me via 25 ft. cables - PC in another room. I was using a
AT 4033, AT 4050s & or a KM84 micing the guitar. Not the greatest sounding room
but it was do-able.
Jimmy Bruno
AKG 4411 or 411 and another direct line was taken out of the amp, a KOCH
tube amp. I used a Roland 2480, no fan noise
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Kurt Shapiro
D.Onstenk
balance.
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"Kurt Shapiro" <kurtWITHOUTT...@hotmailNOSPAMTHANKS.com> schreef
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Mondoslug1
>Yes, a testosterone ridden sausagefest. We need more babes to shift the
>balance.
You can start by videoing some rawk tunes
Lawson Stone
jwra...@aol.com wrote on 6/19/04 10:06 PM:
> I remember when I first started reading this newsgroup, at least some
> people didn't think you were the real Jimmy Bruno and were really
> going after "you" for that reason I guess.
>
I was among those who didn't thing this was "really" Jimmy Bruno...do we
have to bring up all these humiliating things from the past? ;-)
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