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joel fass
Feb 3, 2012, 1:57:55 PM2/3/12
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www.joeraposo.org
I'm a big fan, and have written children's songs myself. His music had
such heart and musicality. His songs have been embraced by many---
public and performer----with good reason. They view kids as people
(and probably people as kids). They just have the basics. This site
has a really nice slideshow summarizing Raposo's career up to his
untimely 1989 death at only 52.
I'm a big fan, and have written children's songs myself. His music had
such heart and musicality. His songs have been embraced by many---
public and performer----with good reason. They view kids as people
(and probably people as kids). They just have the basics. This site
has a really nice slideshow summarizing Raposo's career up to his
untimely 1989 death at only 52.
TD
Feb 3, 2012, 2:56:01 PM2/3/12
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few times many years ago.
-TD
joel fass
Feb 3, 2012, 3:16:40 PM2/3/12
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was the infamous Gemini Lounge. Not sure if Mr. DeMeo and the Iceman
were upstairs 'breaking people up'---and I don't mean doing comedy
schtick....wink, wink......
No, I'm kidding. Never heard of the gent. In the words of a clerk in a
computer store as he handed me my $50 back, smelling trouble after I
got pissed when they claimed they fixed my flatbed printer but didn't
'Sorry we couldn't help you'.
van
Feb 3, 2012, 6:45:50 PM2/3/12
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On Feb 3, 1:57 pm, joel fass <fasstr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
composition, orchestration and counterpoint with Boulanger's Godson,
and he wasn't crazy about jazz or "Popular Music". If Nadia found out
about Joe, I'm sure she would've had him ex-communicated.; - )
Have you heard the music to any of his early shows? Any good tunes?
I always wondered what he said the lyrics to "There Used To Be a
Ballpark" were about. You know?
joel fass
Feb 3, 2012, 7:22:07 PM2/3/12
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I think---though you're probably kidding---Nadia was a little hipper
than that.
thomas
Feb 3, 2012, 8:05:24 PM2/3/12
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van
Feb 4, 2012, 12:57:32 AM2/4/12
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Yeah, she was the "guru" back then that anyone who wanted to get good
technique (counterpoint, orchestration, harmony)
went to.
joel fass
Feb 4, 2012, 11:00:08 AM2/4/12
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There was a teacher in NY, at the Manhattan School, named Ludlima
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Uehlela (sp?). My teacher John Foca, for but one, studied with her and
raved about her amazing analytical skills and general musicianship.Her
book on 20th Century harmony is still in print. And John himself knew
harmony very well----besides a million tunes, being a club date
player. He became as beloved a teacher as Uehlela, with a private
practice in Mill Basin, Brooklyn. Mark Marino, a great guitarist and
great guy, studied with John from his teen years. His best-know
student, though, was Teddy Randazzo. He was a great man.
I always say I'm gonna go back and study with this one and that one,
for any number of reasons, like: my guitar technique sucks, or I need
more of a handle on classical harmony and counterpoint, etc. But I
never have a follow-through. I figured out why: I think once one's
been exposed to great musicians personally early, on the bandstand or
in more formal pedagogic settings it's sort of up to one to find one's
way in a Zen-like undertaking. I think you need to realize when you
have something that's yours that knowledge supplements and has the
basics---and use it as a foundation. Everyone has limitations. I'm not
going to go out and do what some technically flawless guitar player or
horn player does. It doesn't make sense. I think melodically and want
to build on that. I think a better approach is to figure what falls
short in our own performance craft-wise that doesn't allow the music
to flow or come out as it might---then work on that. Sometimes it's
not even musical, it's relaxation, etc. And the beauty part is the
books and teachers, etc. will always be there, but now you're going
with a purpose. This philosophy can be taken a step further and
applied to living---art being a great teacher.
Back to Joe Raposo: the first time I looked at Bein' Green, to learn
to sing it for kids on a gig I was amazed how intricate the melodic
design and phrasing was in conjunction with the lyrics. Check it out
sometime. It's quite complex and impressive. And like most good art
you never hear the sweat that went in, it just sounds right.
thomas
Feb 4, 2012, 2:55:07 PM2/4/12
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On Feb 4, 11:00 am, joel fass <fasstr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Back to Joe Raposo: the first time I looked at Bein' Green, to learn
> to sing it for kids on a gig I was amazed how intricate the melodic
> design and phrasing was in conjunction with the lyrics. Check it out
> sometime. It's quite complex and impressive. And like most good art
> you never hear the sweat that went in, it just sounds right.
Sinatra's version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52cnnU3akfA
>
> Back to Joe Raposo: the first time I looked at Bein' Green, to learn
> to sing it for kids on a gig I was amazed how intricate the melodic
> design and phrasing was in conjunction with the lyrics. Check it out
> sometime. It's quite complex and impressive. And like most good art
> you never hear the sweat that went in, it just sounds right.
van
Feb 4, 2012, 4:59:34 PM2/4/12
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Didn't Mark study with a guy named Johnny Solo? That was probably his
stage name.
I think he was an epileptic. They always used to talk about him at
this crazy music school I used to teach at when I was a kid.
joel fass
Feb 4, 2012, 8:23:15 PM2/4/12
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56 in 1994.
TD
Feb 4, 2012, 8:39:33 PM2/4/12
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On Feb 4, 11:00 am, joel fass <fasstr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Wow! A philosopher!
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joel fass
Feb 5, 2012, 12:17:51 PM2/5/12
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week?.................
joel fass
Feb 5, 2012, 12:22:58 PM2/5/12
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On Feb 4, 11:24 pm, relwat...@optimum.net wrote:
> > 56 in 1994.- Hide quoted text -
> of his lessons. Good stuff.
He died because he didn't want his brain shut down by the anti-
convulsant Dilantin any more, so he cut it out. He started having
Grand Mal seizures and was in denial for a while. The last one got
him. But though we all miss him and wish he were here I respect what
he did. A mature person should make those kind of calls. No one wants
to go through life in a daze. If going off the drugs gave John a few
years of greater mental focus, not to mention without his hair and
teeth falling out---as he would say: 'salud'.
>
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>
> That's sad. I didn't know he died so young.Mark used to show me some
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> of his lessons. Good stuff.
He died because he didn't want his brain shut down by the anti-
convulsant Dilantin any more, so he cut it out. He started having
Grand Mal seizures and was in denial for a while. The last one got
him. But though we all miss him and wish he were here I respect what
he did. A mature person should make those kind of calls. No one wants
to go through life in a daze. If going off the drugs gave John a few
years of greater mental focus, not to mention without his hair and
teeth falling out---as he would say: 'salud'.
joel fass
Feb 5, 2012, 12:33:05 PM2/5/12
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On Feb 4, 4:59 pm, van <sg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
disorder called epilepsy and with it lived a life I daresay many if
not most would envy.
TD
Feb 5, 2012, 12:20:13 PM2/5/12
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I guess, by trying to spread a little humor on your post.
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-TD
joel fass
Feb 5, 2012, 1:28:24 PM2/5/12
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reference. I'm not spoiling the fun by telling, neither.
TD
Feb 5, 2012, 1:40:42 PM2/5/12
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Ahh! Ya got me again. Hey man, I was only born in Brooklyn. I need to
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go back there to "re-hip" myself.
joel fass
Feb 5, 2012, 2:03:02 PM2/5/12
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TD
Feb 5, 2012, 2:09:08 PM2/5/12
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Mel Brooks??
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joel fass
Feb 5, 2012, 2:37:07 PM2/5/12
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joel fass
Feb 6, 2012, 6:54:00 PM2/6/12
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I found the music to Sesame Street theme today. I could never
remember the bridge. One more for the next gig.....
remember the bridge. One more for the next gig.....
Steven Bornfeld
Feb 8, 2012, 12:16:58 AM2/8/12
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On 2/5/2012 12:22 PM, joel fass wrote:
> He died because he didn't want his brain shut down by the anti-
> convulsant Dilantin any more, so he cut it out. He started having
> Grand Mal seizures and was in denial for a while. The last one got
> him. But though we all miss him and wish he were here I respect what
> he did. A mature person should make those kind of calls. No one wants
> to go through life in a daze. If going off the drugs gave John a few
> years of greater mental focus, not to mention without his hair and
> teeth falling out---as he would say: 'salud'.
>
Don't know about hair falling out. I mean, I KNOW about hair falling
> He died because he didn't want his brain shut down by the anti-
> convulsant Dilantin any more, so he cut it out. He started having
> Grand Mal seizures and was in denial for a while. The last one got
> him. But though we all miss him and wish he were here I respect what
> he did. A mature person should make those kind of calls. No one wants
> to go through life in a daze. If going off the drugs gave John a few
> years of greater mental focus, not to mention without his hair and
> teeth falling out---as he would say: 'salud'.
>
out--I just don't know about hair falling out because of dilantin.
It does NOT cause your teeth to fall out. But in a significant number
of patients, it does cause the gums to overgrow.
Steve
Tim McNamara
Feb 8, 2012, 8:40:20 AM2/8/12
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In article
<4d5c9ce9-77e6-4543...@t30g2000vbx.googlegroups.com>,
By 1994 there were at least six anticonvulsant medications on the market
in common use that are easier to manage with lower risk of toxicity than
Dilantin.
The notion of one's brain being "shut down" by Dilantin is inaccurate
but unfortunately many patients have the wrong end of the stick on such
topics (much more common now due to the Interwebs making the
dissemination of false information so much more efficient). A great
example is the notion of vaccines causing autism, which is demonstrably
false and the researcher who started that whole pile of BS has finally
admitted that he deliberately lied- yet the meme continues, leading to
parents not getting their children immunized and a spike in illness and
serious health complications as a result.
Seizures can be fatal. We lost the brilliant luthier Jimmy D'Aquisto to
his seizure disorder as just one example, a tragedy on so many levels.
--
This country will not be a permanently good place for any of us to live in
unless we make it a reasonably good place for all of us to live in.
Theodore Roosevelt
<4d5c9ce9-77e6-4543...@t30g2000vbx.googlegroups.com>,
joel fass <fass...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Feb 4, 11:24 pm, relwat...@optimum.net wrote:
> > On Feb 4, 8:23 pm, joel fass <fasstr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Feb 4, 4:59 pm, van <sg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > On Feb 4, 2:55 pm, thomas <drthomasfbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > On Feb 4, 11:00 am, joel fass <fasstr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > Back to Joe Raposo: the first time I looked at Bein' Green,
> > > > > > to learn to sing it for kids on a gig I was amazed how
> > > > > > intricate the melodic design and phrasing was in
> > > > > > conjunction with the lyrics. Check it out sometime. It's
> > > > > > quite complex and impressive. And like most good art you
> > > > > > never hear the sweat that went in, it just sounds right.
> >
> > > > > Sinatra's version:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52cnnU3akfA
> >
> > > > Ray Charles' version gives me the tingles. Didn't Mark study
> > > > with a guy named Johnny Solo? That was probably his stage name.
> > > > I think he was an epileptic. They always used to talk about him
> > > > at this crazy music school I used to teach at when I was a kid.
> >
> > > Yes. Same guy. There aren't words for how lucky we all were. Died
> > > at 56 in 1994.
> >
> On Feb 4, 11:24 pm, relwat...@optimum.net wrote:
> > On Feb 4, 8:23 pm, joel fass <fasstr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Feb 4, 4:59 pm, van <sg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > On Feb 4, 2:55 pm, thomas <drthomasfbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > On Feb 4, 11:00 am, joel fass <fasstr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > Back to Joe Raposo: the first time I looked at Bein' Green,
> > > > > > to learn to sing it for kids on a gig I was amazed how
> > > > > > intricate the melodic design and phrasing was in
> > > > > > conjunction with the lyrics. Check it out sometime. It's
> > > > > > quite complex and impressive. And like most good art you
> > > > > > never hear the sweat that went in, it just sounds right.
> >
> > > > > Sinatra's version:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52cnnU3akfA
> >
> > > > Ray Charles' version gives me the tingles. Didn't Mark study
> > > > with a guy named Johnny Solo? That was probably his stage name.
> > > > I think he was an epileptic. They always used to talk about him
> > > > at this crazy music school I used to teach at when I was a kid.
> >
> > > Yes. Same guy. There aren't words for how lucky we all were. Died
> > > at 56 in 1994.
> >
> > That's sad. I didn't know he died so young.Mark used to show me
> > some of his lessons. Good stuff.
>
> He died because he didn't want his brain shut down by the anti-
> convulsant Dilantin any more, so he cut it out. He started having
> Grand Mal seizures and was in denial for a while. The last one got
> him. But though we all miss him and wish he were here I respect what
> he did. A mature person should make those kind of calls. No one wants
> to go through life in a daze. If going off the drugs gave John a few
> years of greater mental focus, not to mention without his hair and
> teeth falling out---as he would say: 'salud'.
And there are lots of options for seizure medications besides Dilantin.
> > some of his lessons. Good stuff.
>
> He died because he didn't want his brain shut down by the anti-
> convulsant Dilantin any more, so he cut it out. He started having
> Grand Mal seizures and was in denial for a while. The last one got
> him. But though we all miss him and wish he were here I respect what
> he did. A mature person should make those kind of calls. No one wants
> to go through life in a daze. If going off the drugs gave John a few
> years of greater mental focus, not to mention without his hair and
> teeth falling out---as he would say: 'salud'.
By 1994 there were at least six anticonvulsant medications on the market
in common use that are easier to manage with lower risk of toxicity than
Dilantin.
The notion of one's brain being "shut down" by Dilantin is inaccurate
but unfortunately many patients have the wrong end of the stick on such
topics (much more common now due to the Interwebs making the
dissemination of false information so much more efficient). A great
example is the notion of vaccines causing autism, which is demonstrably
false and the researcher who started that whole pile of BS has finally
admitted that he deliberately lied- yet the meme continues, leading to
parents not getting their children immunized and a spike in illness and
serious health complications as a result.
Seizures can be fatal. We lost the brilliant luthier Jimmy D'Aquisto to
his seizure disorder as just one example, a tragedy on so many levels.
--
This country will not be a permanently good place for any of us to live in
unless we make it a reasonably good place for all of us to live in.
Theodore Roosevelt
TD
Feb 8, 2012, 8:54:20 AM2/8/12
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On Feb 8, 12:16 am, Steven Bornfeld <dentaltwinm...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
I guess that could possibly leave on with a lot of 'gumption'.
Especially, after experiencing all that.
-TD
wrote:
Especially, after experiencing all that.
-TD
TD
Feb 8, 2012, 8:57:55 AM2/8/12
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On Feb 8, 8:40 am, Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net> wrote:
> In article
> <4d5c9ce9-77e6-4543-acfb-40068ec60...@t30g2000vbx.googlegroups.com>,
> Theodore Roosevelt- Hide quoted text -
was age 13). He was famous for forgetting to take his meds.
-TD
> In article
> <4d5c9ce9-77e6-4543-acfb-40068ec60...@t30g2000vbx.googlegroups.com>,
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"Seizures can be fatal. We lost the brilliant luthier Jimmy D'Aquisto
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his seizure disorder as just one example, a tragedy on so many levels.
"
Jimmy was one of my dearest freinds (like family, knowing him since I
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his seizure disorder as just one example, a tragedy on so many levels.
"
was age 13). He was famous for forgetting to take his meds.
-TD
joel fass
Feb 8, 2012, 3:03:56 PM2/8/12
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On Feb 8, 8:40 am, Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net> wrote:
> In article
> <4d5c9ce9-77e6-4543-acfb-40068ec60...@t30g2000vbx.googlegroups.com>,
> In article
> <4d5c9ce9-77e6-4543-acfb-40068ec60...@t30g2000vbx.googlegroups.com>,
brain. Every adult, especially one of John's accomplishment, has the
right to do with their mind and body as they wish---barring hurting
someone else. If one is in discomfort---for whatever reason----they
and they alone should make the call as to how to end it or otherwise
deal without it. I really shouldn't have brought John into this. My
feelings about him are very deep and personal. He was a great man and
let's let the dead rest in peace. I just didn't appreciate that
'epileptic' comment. A bit low. If you guys want to debate this in a
general way I encourage that. But please let's leave John out of it
from here on in, OK? My fault for mentioning him. I feel very bad for
putting his business on the street---posthumously, no less.
Tim McNamara
Feb 8, 2012, 9:19:55 PM2/8/12
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In article
<c5752236-a2c4-44aa...@l14g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>,
quite a mind. I am sorry for your loss (and all of ours- imagine if
Jimmy had had another 30 years to develop his ideas....)
<c5752236-a2c4-44aa...@l14g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>,
> "Seizures can be fatal. We lost the brilliant luthier Jimmy
> D'Aquisto to his seizure disorder as just one example, a tragedy on
> so many levels. "
>
> Jimmy was one of my dearest freinds (like family, knowing him since I
> was age 13). He was famous for forgetting to take his meds.
Just from reading about him and looking at his guitars, he clearly had
> D'Aquisto to his seizure disorder as just one example, a tragedy on
> so many levels. "
>
> Jimmy was one of my dearest freinds (like family, knowing him since I
> was age 13). He was famous for forgetting to take his meds.
quite a mind. I am sorry for your loss (and all of ours- imagine if
Jimmy had had another 30 years to develop his ideas....)
Tim McNamara
Feb 8, 2012, 9:36:22 PM2/8/12
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In article
<4d5ef202-a62e-4eea...@p7g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
Nope.
> Every adult, especially one of John's accomplishment, has the right
> to do with their mind and body as they wish---barring hurting someone
> else.
Yep.
> If one is in discomfort---for whatever reason----they and they alone
> should make the call as to how to end it or otherwise deal without
> it.
Yep. Although nit sure what you mean by "end it" in this context.
IMHO it's best if those decisions are based on facts as much as possible
although of course it is not possible to make someone base their
decisions on facts. If someone doesn't like how he or she feels on
Dilantin or doesn't want to deal with the potential or actual side
effects, there were a number of options. I would hope a patient's
doctors would discuss that with him or her. Dilantin used to be the
first line medication for preventing seizures but is not so much the
case any more- Depakote, Neurontin, Keppra, Trileptal and Tegretol were
all in wide use by 1994 as first line treatments.
> I really shouldn't have brought John into this. My feelings about him
> are very deep and personal. He was a great man and let's let the dead
> rest in peace. I just didn't appreciate that 'epileptic' comment. A
> bit low.
"Epileptic" is not a pejorative term, any more than "diabetic" is a
pejorative term. It's not one I use very often, I generally would just
say that a person has a seizure disorder. Epilepsy has a specific and
widely accepted definition in the medical lexicon.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001714/
> If you guys want to debate this in a general way I encourage
> that. But please let's leave John out of it from here on in, OK? My
> fault for mentioning him. I feel very bad for putting his business on
> the street---posthumously, no less.
Understood. Thanks for raising the issue, though. Managing chronic
health conditions is important.
<4d5ef202-a62e-4eea...@p7g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
> Every adult, especially one of John's accomplishment, has the right
> to do with their mind and body as they wish---barring hurting someone
> else.
> If one is in discomfort---for whatever reason----they and they alone
> should make the call as to how to end it or otherwise deal without
> it.
IMHO it's best if those decisions are based on facts as much as possible
although of course it is not possible to make someone base their
decisions on facts. If someone doesn't like how he or she feels on
Dilantin or doesn't want to deal with the potential or actual side
effects, there were a number of options. I would hope a patient's
doctors would discuss that with him or her. Dilantin used to be the
first line medication for preventing seizures but is not so much the
case any more- Depakote, Neurontin, Keppra, Trileptal and Tegretol were
all in wide use by 1994 as first line treatments.
> I really shouldn't have brought John into this. My feelings about him
> are very deep and personal. He was a great man and let's let the dead
> rest in peace. I just didn't appreciate that 'epileptic' comment. A
> bit low.
pejorative term. It's not one I use very often, I generally would just
say that a person has a seizure disorder. Epilepsy has a specific and
widely accepted definition in the medical lexicon.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001714/
> If you guys want to debate this in a general way I encourage
> that. But please let's leave John out of it from here on in, OK? My
> fault for mentioning him. I feel very bad for putting his business on
> the street---posthumously, no less.
health conditions is important.
joel fass
Feb 10, 2012, 11:36:37 AM2/10/12
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I just learned 4 things about Raposo (if we are to trust Wikipedia---
any many do not): He's Portugese (I would've sworn Italian). Also
Sinatra loved him so much he called him 'the genius' and wanted him to
write the entire Old Blue Eyes is Back LP (he ended up writing 4
songs). He wrote for That was the Week that Was---which I remember
well from my childhood as a satirical precurser to shows like SNL. I
think David Frost had his first break there. It was funny as hell and
ahead of its time. Finally---and to my enormous delight---Raposo was a
crony of the Clown Prince of Wicked Satire: Tom (Poisoning Pigeons in
the Park) Lehrer.
I sure hope no one told Big Bird about that last one (;
any many do not): He's Portugese (I would've sworn Italian). Also
Sinatra loved him so much he called him 'the genius' and wanted him to
write the entire Old Blue Eyes is Back LP (he ended up writing 4
songs). He wrote for That was the Week that Was---which I remember
well from my childhood as a satirical precurser to shows like SNL. I
think David Frost had his first break there. It was funny as hell and
ahead of its time. Finally---and to my enormous delight---Raposo was a
crony of the Clown Prince of Wicked Satire: Tom (Poisoning Pigeons in
the Park) Lehrer.
I sure hope no one told Big Bird about that last one (;
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