Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Bebop heads based on standard changes

751 views
Skip to first unread message

Steven R

unread,
Mar 3, 2010, 4:07:46 PM3/3/10
to
I'm trying to compile a list of bebop tunes that are based on the
changes of standard/swing tunes. I know there are tons of blues and
rhythm changes head so I'd like to exclude those. Things like Lady
Bird - Half Nelson and Honeysuckle Rose - Scrapple From the Apple,
etc. Any such contributions would help thanks!

Bill Williams

unread,
Mar 3, 2010, 6:34:29 PM3/3/10
to

Phred

unread,
Mar 3, 2010, 6:36:35 PM3/3/10
to

don't forget fried bananas on there'll never be another you, and
prince albert on all the things you are, dig on sweet georgia brown,
evidence on just you, just me, donna lee on indiana, quasimodo on
embraceable you - just a few....I'd love to see the whole list, fun
stuff!
SB

TFPainter

unread,
Mar 3, 2010, 7:11:26 PM3/3/10
to

Levine has done the work for you. There is a very comprehensive list
in his "Jazz Theory Book"

nqbqbep

unread,
Mar 3, 2010, 7:21:26 PM3/3/10
to
On Mar 3, 10:07 pm, Steven R <super...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm trying to compile a list of bebop tunes that are based on the
> changes of standard/swing tunes.

The word for that is "contrafact".

In the case of Charlie Parker look here:

http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?10653-Charlie-Parker-Contrafacts

Bg

unread,
Mar 3, 2010, 7:44:14 PM3/3/10
to
> http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?10653-Charlie-Parker-Cont...

I think there's a list of Contrafacts in one of the Abersold books.
Maybe on their site?
Bg

Joe Finn

unread,
Mar 3, 2010, 8:27:59 PM3/3/10
to
"TFPainter" <paint...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:b76f8551-40ea-4a9e...@33g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...

People keep writing new ones too. ....joe

--
Visit me on the web www.JoeFinn.net


David J. Littleboy

unread,
Mar 3, 2010, 9:05:54 PM3/3/10
to

"Bg" <ott...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
I think there's a list of Contrafacts in one of the Abersold books.
Maybe on their site?
<<<<<<<<<<

Volume 76, How to Learn Tunes, has a long list of contrefacts for rhythm
changes, and a short list of tunes that are other sources of contrefacts
(which is a good list of "must know" tunes).

A question I was about to ask: is there a list of contrefacts for Blues for
Alice, i.e. Parker's blues based on the Confirmation changes?

--
David J. Littleboy
Tokyo, Japan


nqbqbep

unread,
Mar 3, 2010, 9:47:07 PM3/3/10
to
On Mar 4, 3:05 am, "David J. Littleboy" <davi...@gol.com> wrote:

Hampton Hawes and Sonny Stitt have written some heads on these
changes. I cannot remember the titles right now.

Steven R

unread,
Mar 4, 2010, 12:56:49 AM3/4/10
to
Thanks for all the info and great resources!

Rick Stone

unread,
Mar 4, 2010, 10:11:02 AM3/4/10
to
rickstone.vcf

Dan Adler

unread,
Mar 6, 2010, 11:41:16 AM3/6/10
to
On Mar 4, 10:11 am, Rick Stone <rickst...@rickstone.com> wrote:
>
> "Fried Bananas" is Dexter Gordon's contrafact on "It Could Happen to
> You" (not TWNBAY).  You can hear it here:http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/rickstone2

That is indeed my favorite version of the song (other than Dexter's) -
and a great overall bebop guitar album!

-Dan
http://danadler.com

Paul Mitchell Brown

unread,
Mar 6, 2010, 8:09:32 PM3/6/10
to

Agreed. You make such a great team with Kenny Barron on that album,
Rick.

Here's a link to an informative Japanese site that details most of the
short musical quotes (contrafactoids?) Charlie Parker worked into his
performances:

http://www.chasinthebird.com/quotes_e.html


Dan Adler

unread,
Mar 8, 2010, 6:59:12 AM3/8/10
to
On Mar 3, 8:27 pm, "Joe Finn" <J...@JoeFinn.net> wrote:
> "TFPainter" <painter1...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

...like some of the tunes from my CD (All Things Familiar, Bird's
Idea, Blues for Keren, If I were a Jazz Man), which are available
here:

http://danadler.com/jazztrans/

Enjoy,
-Dan
http://danadler.com

Joe Finn

unread,
Mar 8, 2010, 10:22:55 AM3/8/10
to
"Dan Adler" <d...@danadler.com> wrote in message
news:bcc2041d-497e-4b11...@x22g2000yqx.googlegroups.com...

>>>>http://danadler.com/jazztrans/

>>>>Enjoy,
>>>>-Dan
>>>>http://danadler.com


It's a really nice album, too. I hope more people buy it. ...joe

0 new messages