I like the RI Bassman with my 335; properly set-up, it's got a great sound,
but not much clean headroom.
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There's this guy, Mike Zaite's his name, calls himself Dr. Z. He makes an 18
watt tube head called the Carmen Ghia. My 335 sounds *great* thru that amp
and at 18 watts, the Ghia is ideal for recording.
srd
I believe this guitar amp is a 60 wtter.
I've heard that the newer hot rod reissues
are made so that their breakup threshold is
pretty low. My amp is about 5 years old and
I can take it up to a 7 before I start to hear
distortion. I prefer a cleaner sound but
I also, when I play R&R or blues or fusion,
I like it to get a little more aggressive.
I strongly believe that the amp should not be
pushed as it was in "pre-historic" days and
this statement is taking the advent of signal
processors into consideration. I can duplicate
any distortion with my digitech processor
hence letting my amp have a few more years
or trouble free life.
Good luck with your search. don't spend too
much money looking for that ever elusive
"sound"
Eloy
DaveEichenberger
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Brian
>In article <k3Li2.4498$9H6.4...@news4.mia>,
> "David Quave" <dqu...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> Any es-335 owners have some suggestions on any amps to bring out the best
>> sound of this guitar. Will be using it in recording situations more than
>> live work. I have my eye on the 59 Bassman reissue. I keep hearing the hot
>> rod series from fender is to bright for this guitar. Any truth to that?
>> Seeking a clean bluesy
>> sound and some jazz tones with a little tube distortion.
>> thanks for any thoughts on this subject.
>There's this guy, Mike Zaite's his name, calls himself Dr. Z. He makes an 18
>watt tube head called the Carmen Ghia. My 335 sounds *great* thru that amp
>and at 18 watts, the Ghia is ideal for recording.
>srd
I won't argue about the Dr. Z... heard too much good about them.
I use a 335 style guitar through a Hot Rod Deluxe with one 12", and
don't feel I have any problem at all with it being 'too bright', and
feel it's a good choice.
Twang!
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I just sold my ES-335 (too many guitars...), but it sounded devastating
through my reissue Marshall JTM45 head and reissue cab with Celestion
Greenbacks - reasonable jazz tones, *great* blues tones, and the clean
sound was sweet! It might be a little loud for recording, though.
My 335 sounded very nice through a Matchless Lightning reverb (2x10) as
well, but there wasn't much clean headroom.
Happy New Year!
Jay
Here are the BB King and T. Bone Walker rigs suggested by Guitar plaer. As
you know, both were pretty clean sounding and Wlaker was rather jazz
oriented in style as well.
Dale
Here is what Guitar Player suggested for a BB King sort of tone ...
Guitars: Epiphone Dot ($868). Amps: Fender Frontman 25R ($200; 25-watt,
solid-state, 1x10 combo with reverb), Epiphone Electar Tube 10 ($359;
10-watt, 1x8 tube combo), Peavey Classic 20 ($330; 15-watt, 1x10 tube
combo), Carvin 212 Belair ($499; 50-watt, 2x12 tube combo with reverb).
Mid-Priced B.B.
Guitars: Epiphone B.B. King Lucille ($1,499), Guild Starfire IV ($1,800).
Amps: Tech 21 Trademark 60 ($695; 60-watt, 1x12 solid-state combo with
reverb), Line 6 Flextone ($799; 50-watt, 1x12 digital-modeling combo),
Peavey Classic 50-212 ($800; 50-watt, 2x12 tube combo with reverb), Crate
VC6212 ($1,000; 60-watt, 2x12 tube combo with reverb), Mesa/Boogie DC-10
($1,299; 100-watt, 2x12 tube combo with reverb), Fender '65 Twin Reverb
($1,300; 80-watt, 2x12 combo with reverb).
High-end B.B.
Guitars: Gibson B.B. King Lucille ($2,877) or Gibson Historic ES-345
($5,075-$6,300). Amps: Rivera BM-100 2x12 ($1,995), Kendrick 4212 ($2,595;
80-watt, 2x12 tube combo), Diaz Classic Twin ($2,999), Fender Dual
Professional ($3,000).
Here are the T. Bone Walker suggestions:
Budget T-Bone
Guitars: Washburn J9 ($1,050), Epiphone Emperor II ($1,149). Amps: Crate
VC508 ($250; 5-watt, 1x8 tube combo), Randall RG25R ($270; 25-watt,
solid-state, 1x10 combo with reverb), Carvin 112-Nomad ($449; 50-watt, 1x12
tube combo with reverb), Fender Blues Junior ($470; 15-watt, 1x12 tube combo
with reverb), Mesa/Boogie Subway Blues ($479; 20-watt, 1x10 tube combo).
Mid-Priced T-Bone
Guitars: Epiphone Joe Pass Emperor II ($1,259), Ibanez PM-20 ($1,400), Guild
X-150D Savoy ($2,000). Amps: Peavey Delta Blues ($580; 30-watt, 1x15 tube
combo with reverb), Crate VC3112 ($700; 30-watt, 1x12 tube combo with
reverb), Line 6 Flextone ($799; 50-watt, 1x12 digital-modeling combo),
Randall RT50R ($1,099; 30-watt, 2x12 tube combo with reverb), Top Hat T-20CD
Club Deluxe ($1,095; 20-watt, 1x12 tube combo), Fender '59 Bassman ($1,180;
40-watt, 4x10 tube combo).
High-end T-Bone
Guitars: Washburn J15 ($3,000), Heritage Eagle Classic ($3,400), Gibson
Historic ES-5 ($5,450-7,000 with P-90 pickups). Amps: Fender Vibrolux Reverb
($1,199), Holland Jazz Amp ($2,200; 50-watt, 2x10 tube combo with reverb),
Matchless Brave ($2,249; 40-watt, 1x12 tube combo), Standel 25L12 ($2,550;
18-watt, 1x12 combo with dual 807 output tubes).
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So my recommendation is a good head with the Raezer's Edge cabinet .
http://www.sunlink.net/~aarchtop/
http://www.greensboro.com/evans/
http://www.allaboutjazz.com/raezersedge/
>Any es-335 owners have some suggestions on any amps to bring out the best
>sound of this guitar.
Does this mean you've settled on the 335 over the PRS?
I use either a MusicMan 2x10 or (mostly) a boogie MK III head into a
Marshall 2x12 cab. The Music Man has predictably a bit more headroom
before breakup. I like both. The Boogie has lots of tonal
possibilities and works well in a cover band type of situation. A
good friend plays his 335 into a Marshall 100w (!) head and a 4x12 cab
and sounds really really good. I like the Matchless DC30 amps with
this guitar if you can pony up the money. Also try the Vox
reissues.... that'd pro'ly be lots o'fun
your old friend
jet
The Velocette 12R can be run at half-power, to obtain power-tube saturation
at 7.5 watts. See my information page:
http://www.cybtrans.com/guitar/g185.htm -- Trace-Elliot Velocette 12R -
1x12 7.5 or 15 watt tube combo
Craig
In article <76iure$e...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>, "Lawren Daltroy"
Dunno, just plain think they're bright anyway. The Bassman would be cool,
but a splash of verb with the 335 is always nice...
Any truth to that?
>Seeking a clean bluesy
>sound and some jazz tones with a little tube distortion.
>thanks for any thoughts on this subject.
>
I had a mid sixties suer that I got a great tone with an ES335 and a MXR
distortion+. Cleaned up great and had a unbelieveable sustain...
Scotty
Good luck and post what you decide.
Check out the 335 through a Fender Vibrolux Reverb. Best to find an
older one (before they went to PCB).
My 335 sounds great through the Vibrolux Reverb -- better than through
my Deluxe Reverb -- I think the 2 tens in the Vibrolux clean up the 335
a bit.
Have fun and experiment with amps!
Paul
>My 335 sounds great through the Vibrolux Reverb -- better than through
>my Deluxe Reverb -- I think the 2 tens in the Vibrolux clean up the 335
>a bit.
That plus the extra 20 watts
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Cleveland, OH USA
E-mail: j...@gwis.com
Check out my jazz guitar webpage:
Web: http://w3.gwis.com/~jaz
My buddy who owns a studio got a Dr. Z amp, and I think it sounds great;
somewhat of a Matchless vibe. I'm not exactly a tube amp connoisser, but if I
wanted a low watt tube amp for studio use, I'd definitely look into the doctor
Z.
Tom Lippincott
a message from France ...
My '67 ES 355 was plugged into a Deluxe reverb end sixties.
This is in my opinion the best choice.
Obviously you have exactly the BB sound because he used it ...
but, the jazz sounds warm and clean.
I've seen a lot of artists using one (or two) Deluxe, even on stage,
with a mike in the front. Try it !
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Patrick F. Coleman wrote:
> stevi...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> >In article <k3Li2.4498$9H6.4...@news4.mia>,
> > "David Quave" <dqu...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >> Any es-335 owners have some suggestions on any amps to bring out the best
> >> sound of this guitar. Will be using it in recording situations more than
> >> live work. I have my eye on the 59 Bassman reissue. I keep hearing the hot
> >> rod series from fender is to bright for this guitar. Any truth to that?
> >> Seeking a clean bluesy
> >> sound and some jazz tones with a little tube distortion.
> >> thanks for any thoughts on this subject.
>
> >There's this guy, Mike Zaite's his name, calls himself Dr. Z. He makes an 18
> >watt tube head called the Carmen Ghia. My 335 sounds *great* thru that amp
> >and at 18 watts, the Ghia is ideal for recording.
>
> >www.drzamps.com
>
> >srd
>
> I won't argue about the Dr. Z... heard too much good about them.
> I use a 335 style guitar through a Hot Rod Deluxe with one 12", and
> don't feel I have any problem at all with it being 'too bright', and
> feel it's a good choice.
> Twang!
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>
> /-)
John
You use 10" speakers to add low end?
srd
>In article <368E8AB7...@123.net>,
> "D. Trombley" <da...@123.net> wrote:
>> I just bought an Epi The Dot and run it through my HR Deluxe. I use a 2x10 ext
>> cab that I built and that adds a ton of low end.
>> Mudbone
>>
>You use 10" speakers to add low end?
Well hell yes.
While a 12" will have more lows than a 10".. comparing one to the
other... a 10" still has lows.. by adding two tens in a cab, he's
increased his low end.
I'd rather use another 12", myself, but so what? His would add lows.
Twang!
>srd
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>In article <368E8AB7...@123.net>,
> "D. Trombley" <da...@123.net> wrote:
>> I just bought an Epi The Dot and run it through my HR Deluxe. I use a 2x10 ext
>> cab that I built and that adds a ton of low end.
>> Mudbone
>>
>
>You use 10" speakers to add low end?
>
>srd
Yes, and he uses a single 15" cab for the high end.
A bass player friend of mine explained to me once (I forget exactly what the
specifics were, but it made sense at the time) that 10" speakers are indeed
better in some ways for low end than 12s or 15s. Notice that many high end
bass cabinets use multiple configurations of 10s, such as Hartke and Eden, just
to name a couple off the top of my head.
Tom Lippincott
You sure can when there is more than one of them. It's dependent on the
geometry and electrical phasing. You get a radiation pattern set up which is
different for each frequency (reinforcement/cancellation) and so you get
filtering. If the filter characteristic has peaks at low frequencies then
you can add low end.
If you close mike one speaker of the cab then you will minimize this
filtering and pretty much lose this effect. So it's more of a studio thing.
To get this extra low end live you have to either close mike both speakers
and submix them or else mike them from a distance, which is usually not
practical from an isolation point of view.
I'm pretty sure Lexicon wasn't thinking of it in these terms when they
designed it, but their divergent 2x10 cabinet offers a chance at getting
some filtering while still close miking.
Later,
Andrew Mullhaupt
I use a custom cab with 112 tweeters scavenged from
Sony boomboxes for my 5-string bass with a low B.
..Giri
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e-mail: giyengar "at" ford "dot" com
What?! no KLON????
everyone knows, they are the best thing going for basses, especially if you
have a big tweeter.
:)
-Anthony
stevi...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> In article <368E8AB7...@123.net>,
> "D. Trombley" <da...@123.net> wrote:
> > I just bought an Epi The Dot and run it through my HR Deluxe. I use a 2x10 ext
> > cab that I built and that adds a ton of low end.
> > Mudbone
> >
>
> You use 10" speakers to add low end?
Yeah. It depends on the speakers, cabinet and what
the other stuff in the power chain are doing.
If the 10" are higher compliance ( e.g., more like
bass guitar/PA speakers ), yoo betcha.
>
> srd
>
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No, I'm waiting for the Screaming Blue Muff Driver.
Apparently, you can turn the gain *and* the level
all the way down, for a *really* clean sound. Very
transparent, too.
> everyone knows, they are the best thing going for basses, especially if you
> have a big tweeter.
Naah, really big tweeters have too much treble.
Muff diver? Will that make my tone better?
>> everyone knows, they are the best thing going for basses, >>especially if
you
>> have a big tweeter.
>
>Naah, really big tweeters have too much treble.
>
>..Giri
I heard it doesn't matter how much treble you have, just how you use it.
-SAnthony
(I just got my stevie yesterday)
TomLippinc wrote:
> >
> >>You use 10" speakers to add low end?
> >
It's actually pretty simple. Two 10" speakers have more surface area and move more
air than one 12" speaker,. plus they have the added benefit of responding quicker
for a given magnet power because they have a lower mass to magnet ratio. Specialty
low range 10" speakers can be developed, as in the Hartke and Eden that have
"long-through" cones and motors that are easier to control in a smaller speaker.
All that said, in general, two 12s will produce more low in than two 10s, but two
15s will beat them both.
Dave
Dave
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