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Fender Super-Sonic 60 combo for jazz?
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Joey Goldstein
Jan 26, 2014, 6:30:59 PM1/26/14
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I like the features (including that it has tilt-back legs which isn't
shown in any of the product pics for some reason).
Anybody using these for jazz around here?
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shown in any of the product pics for some reason).
Anybody using these for jazz around here?
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Charlie X
Jan 26, 2014, 8:51:54 PM1/26/14
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I tried it..the amp is fabulous for almost everything...but jazz its just so so.
Its like getting a Mesa or most other rock amps to do jazz..sometimes you can do it and sometimes you cant quite get it. I could not get my tone from it ..of course YMMV. After playing a polytone or even a Roland, the SS sounds ice picky and noisy. But for rock patches, funk, and everything else (but jazz) its killer..and heavy.
Its like getting a Mesa or most other rock amps to do jazz..sometimes you can do it and sometimes you cant quite get it. I could not get my tone from it ..of course YMMV. After playing a polytone or even a Roland, the SS sounds ice picky and noisy. But for rock patches, funk, and everything else (but jazz) its killer..and heavy.
Joey Goldstein
Jan 26, 2014, 9:32:50 PM1/26/14
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On 1/26/2014, 8:51 PM, Charlie X wrote:
> I tried it..the amp is fabulous for almost everything...but jazz its just so so.
> Its like getting a Mesa or most other rock amps to do jazz..sometimes you can do it and sometimes you cant quite get it. I could not get my tone from it ..of course YMMV. After playing a polytone or even a Roland, the SS sounds ice picky and noisy. But for rock patches, funk, and everything else (but jazz) its killer..and heavy.
>
tanks
> I tried it..the amp is fabulous for almost everything...but jazz its just so so.
> Its like getting a Mesa or most other rock amps to do jazz..sometimes you can do it and sometimes you cant quite get it. I could not get my tone from it ..of course YMMV. After playing a polytone or even a Roland, the SS sounds ice picky and noisy. But for rock patches, funk, and everything else (but jazz) its killer..and heavy.
>
jaz
Jan 27, 2014, 10:43:02 AM1/27/14
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did you see there's a Benson version of the hot rod deluxe?
Charlie X
Jan 27, 2014, 12:27:29 PM1/27/14
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I saw the Benson amp...but the headroom was the same on the one I played as my old HRDs. Anyone hear any different? It farts out after u get to 4 on the volume.
I was very disappointed as the clips sounded perfect...it is great at low volume. Anybody?
I was very disappointed as the clips sounded perfect...it is great at low volume. Anybody?
jaz
Jan 27, 2014, 2:04:02 PM1/27/14
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On Monday, January 27, 2014 12:27:29 PM UTC-5, Charlie X wrote:
> I saw the Benson amp...but the headroom was the same on the one I played as my old HRDs. Anyone hear any different? It farts out after u get to 4 on the volume.
>
> I was very disappointed as the clips sounded perfect...it is great at low volume. Anybody?
that's why he uses it in conjunction with a polytone
> I saw the Benson amp...but the headroom was the same on the one I played as my old HRDs. Anyone hear any different? It farts out after u get to 4 on the volume.
>
> I was very disappointed as the clips sounded perfect...it is great at low volume. Anybody?
rpjazzguitar
Jan 27, 2014, 3:44:53 PM1/27/14
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Marginally related ...
I have a Mesa Boogie Mark III which I've used on a lot of jazz gigs. I once had a guitar player in the audience offer to buy my entire rig on the spot.
So, I think it's a great amp for jazz. The problem with it, aside from the weight, is that the controls are the opposite of idiot-proof.
I played a gig with it last night. The good news was that there was a shelf behind the band, so I was able to get the speaker cabinet at about head height, which I love.
But, the stage was crowded. I didn't have a convenient place for the head, so it had to be behind me, to one side and on the floor. From where I was sitting, I couldn't reach it easily and, even when I turned, I couldn't see the labels or numbers for the various knobs. I should be able to remember that the bass is third from left, and the master volume is third, or is it fourth from the right, but I play several different amps (and usually not the Boogie, because of the weight) and I couldn't remember it well enough to make the adjustments blind.
And, then, my guitar has three volume controls (I usually leave them all up full), my pedalboard has a volume pedal and level controls for the selected effects in some cases, the boogie has preamp, lead and master volumes. There are three tone stacks in the system. And, on the Boogie, if you turn one knob just a hair, make sure you have time to adjust the others, because you may have to.
Anyway, the challenge with the Boogie is to dial it in.
I have a Mesa Boogie Mark III which I've used on a lot of jazz gigs. I once had a guitar player in the audience offer to buy my entire rig on the spot.
So, I think it's a great amp for jazz. The problem with it, aside from the weight, is that the controls are the opposite of idiot-proof.
I played a gig with it last night. The good news was that there was a shelf behind the band, so I was able to get the speaker cabinet at about head height, which I love.
But, the stage was crowded. I didn't have a convenient place for the head, so it had to be behind me, to one side and on the floor. From where I was sitting, I couldn't reach it easily and, even when I turned, I couldn't see the labels or numbers for the various knobs. I should be able to remember that the bass is third from left, and the master volume is third, or is it fourth from the right, but I play several different amps (and usually not the Boogie, because of the weight) and I couldn't remember it well enough to make the adjustments blind.
And, then, my guitar has three volume controls (I usually leave them all up full), my pedalboard has a volume pedal and level controls for the selected effects in some cases, the boogie has preamp, lead and master volumes. There are three tone stacks in the system. And, on the Boogie, if you turn one knob just a hair, make sure you have time to adjust the others, because you may have to.
Anyway, the challenge with the Boogie is to dial it in.
Bill Godwin
Jan 27, 2014, 4:32:49 PM1/27/14
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AND it weighs 65 lbs. But dang when it IS dialed in it sounds fantastic!
jaz
Jan 27, 2014, 5:08:30 PM1/27/14
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On Monday, January 27, 2014 3:44:53 PM UTC-5, rpjazzguitar wrote:
It did sound good for classic rock tunes in a huge ballroom though...
rpjazzguitar
Jan 27, 2014, 8:20:39 PM1/27/14
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I had the reverb mod done at the factory -- and the reverb still sucked.
I leave it off and use the reverb in my ME50. The ME50 isn't the best reverb I've heard, but it falls squarely in the "good enough" category.
I have the Black Shadow speaker. I think it sounds fine at low volume.
Where it doesn't sound good is up a flight of stairs.
I leave it off and use the reverb in my ME50. The ME50 isn't the best reverb I've heard, but it falls squarely in the "good enough" category.
I have the Black Shadow speaker. I think it sounds fine at low volume.
Where it doesn't sound good is up a flight of stairs.
charlieguitar
Jan 27, 2014, 10:37:22 PM1/27/14
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Joey Goldstein
Jan 28, 2014, 12:38:36 AM1/28/14
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On 1/27/2014, 10:43 AM, jaz wrote:
> did you see there's a Benson version of the hot rod deluxe?
>
Yeah, but it didn't look promising although I forget why.
> did you see there's a Benson version of the hot rod deluxe?
>
I think it might just be stock but they're using a 12AT7 in V1 for
cleaner headroom or something like that.
Joey Goldstein
Jan 28, 2014, 12:41:40 AM1/28/14
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Then a MKIV.
Also used a Triaxis with a Simul-Satellite for a long time.
I'd buy a MKV but I don't really need all the bells and whistles or the
high power or the weight.
I'd rather use my Axe-FX rig when I need all that.
But I've been thinking a bit about the Express 50:5.
Joey Goldstein
Jan 28, 2014, 12:42:32 AM1/28/14
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Charlie X
Jan 28, 2014, 3:31:47 PM1/28/14
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JOEY BABY!!
I just happen to have on me...one wonderful Mesa express 5:50! THis is a Head Cab config with the larger 'full size' mesa 112 cab with the celestion in it.
This makes a fairly heavy amp into two much lighter components and its also in a custom red tolex (pics on request)...comes with footswitch and covers.
1500 plus shipping if anyone is looking!
That is less than I paid.
This thing is easily MINT condition. I DEFINETELY think you should go with the Mesa 5:50!
I just happen to have on me...one wonderful Mesa express 5:50! THis is a Head Cab config with the larger 'full size' mesa 112 cab with the celestion in it.
This makes a fairly heavy amp into two much lighter components and its also in a custom red tolex (pics on request)...comes with footswitch and covers.
1500 plus shipping if anyone is looking!
That is less than I paid.
This thing is easily MINT condition. I DEFINETELY think you should go with the Mesa 5:50!
Charlie X
Jan 28, 2014, 3:45:47 PM1/28/14
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Joey..before u poo poo my offer consider this:
You should buy my Mesa,
Don't put a strain on your cabesa,
If it sucked, you know id saysa,
With the Express, you will win every racea,
So show everyone your good tastea,
And let the clean sounds light up your facea
Crappy tones disappear without a tracea
So snatch up my 5 50 Mesa.
Anything else is a big wastea
You should buy my Mesa,
Don't put a strain on your cabesa,
If it sucked, you know id saysa,
With the Express, you will win every racea,
So show everyone your good tastea,
And let the clean sounds light up your facea
Crappy tones disappear without a tracea
So snatch up my 5 50 Mesa.
Anything else is a big wastea
Joey Goldstein
Jan 28, 2014, 7:12:02 PM1/28/14
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On 1/28/2014, 3:31 PM, Charlie X wrote:
> JOEY BABY!!
> I just happen to have on me...one wonderful Mesa express 5:50! THis is a Head Cab config with the larger 'full size' mesa 112 cab with the celestion in it.
> This makes a fairly heavy amp into two much lighter components and its also in a custom red tolex (pics on request)...comes with footswitch and covers.
> 1500 plus shipping if anyone is looking!
> That is less than I paid.
> This thing is easily MINT condition. I DEFINETELY think you should go with the Mesa 5:50!
Lol.
> JOEY BABY!!
> I just happen to have on me...one wonderful Mesa express 5:50! THis is a Head Cab config with the larger 'full size' mesa 112 cab with the celestion in it.
> This makes a fairly heavy amp into two much lighter components and its also in a custom red tolex (pics on request)...comes with footswitch and covers.
> 1500 plus shipping if anyone is looking!
> That is less than I paid.
> This thing is easily MINT condition. I DEFINETELY think you should go with the Mesa 5:50!
Well, I'm just considering it at this point.
Kinda wanted a combo amp though.
If I were to buy a head it'd only be the head.
Does yours have the graphic EQ?
If so, then how much for the head only?
Charlie X
Jan 28, 2014, 11:13:35 PM1/28/14
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On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 7:12:02 PM UTC-5, Joey Goldstein wrote:
> On 1/28/2014, 3:31 PM, Charlie X wrote:
>
> > JOEY BABY!!
>
> > I just happen to have on me...one wonderful Mesa express 5:50! THis is a Head Cab config with the larger 'full size' mesa 112 cab with the celestion in it.
>
> > This makes a fairly heavy amp into two much lighter components and its also in a custom red tolex (pics on request)...comes with footswitch and covers.
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> > 1500 plus shipping if anyone is looking!
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> > That is less than I paid.
>
> > This thing is easily MINT condition. I DEFINETELY think you should go with the Mesa 5:50!
>
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> Lol.
>
> Well, I'm just considering it at this point.
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> Kinda wanted a combo amp though.
>
> If I were to buy a head it'd only be the head.
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> Does yours have the graphic EQ?
>
> If so, then how much for the head only?
>
> Hi...well, no this is not the one with GEQ. Its a 2 channel switcher and goes from 5w to 50 on a switch. Great for recording as you can drop down to 5w for a rock record. Has reverb and a few gain options. But I bought it for the clean sound..i had a 66 pro reverb at the time, and this was a sweeter kind of clean so I unloaded the Pro.
> On 1/28/2014, 3:31 PM, Charlie X wrote:
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> > JOEY BABY!!
>
> > I just happen to have on me...one wonderful Mesa express 5:50! THis is a Head Cab config with the larger 'full size' mesa 112 cab with the celestion in it.
>
> > This makes a fairly heavy amp into two much lighter components and its also in a custom red tolex (pics on request)...comes with footswitch and covers.
>
> > 1500 plus shipping if anyone is looking!
>
> > That is less than I paid.
>
> > This thing is easily MINT condition. I DEFINETELY think you should go with the Mesa 5:50!
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>
> Lol.
>
> Well, I'm just considering it at this point.
>
> Kinda wanted a combo amp though.
>
> If I were to buy a head it'd only be the head.
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>
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> Does yours have the graphic EQ?
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> If so, then how much for the head only?
>
I gotta keep the head and cab together as they both have the red tolex and maybe can sell better as a set. ...though I would sell the cab separate and keep the head. If u like the Express tone, check out the 525 with the 12. Really nicer jazz tone than the 50w. Im snagging a 30 dollar line 6 spider iv. One of my fav jazz tones...makes all my thinlines sound like 175s.
Joey Goldstein
Jan 28, 2014, 11:59:17 PM1/28/14
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Charlie X
Jan 29, 2014, 10:05:24 PM1/29/14
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Yes..its the c 90 in there...its the larger 112 cab they have.
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