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Carl Greeff

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Oct 9, 2004, 3:44:45 PM10/9/04
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Has anybody played one of these? I like the features. 16" body, laminate top,
built in single pickup, 24 3/4" scale. And they're pretty. There don't seem to
be many US dealers.

Carl

David Moss

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Oct 9, 2004, 6:19:33 PM10/9/04
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"Carl Greeff" wrote...

Yes, I had an extensive try-out of one in this London store:
http://www.ivormairants.co.uk/daquisto_j.html. The guitar's
a real beauty, a truly loving copy of the D'Aquisto Jim Hall
played. I found the 16" size and shorter scale suited me really
well - it's also pretty thin, at 2.5". Tone was simply beautiful,
perfectly finished and set up, with perfect intonation all over
the neck. The pots had a good solid feel to them, and the tone
pot was more effective than I've found on many guitars. I was
extremely impressed.

However, there's also the Sadowsky Jim Hall Signature,
also inspired by Jim's D'Aquisto and very similar in
looks and dimensions. My intention was to try both
before deciding - but now that I told Jim Hall personally
that I'd be getting the Sadowsky, I guess the decision's
already made!

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Ra

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Oct 9, 2004, 8:02:47 PM10/9/04
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I'm a real lover of a natural Finish on guitars..
and might even prefer having real Tung oil,
instead of nitrocellulose lacquer.
( I hate poly )

I think I might have to take the violin finish,
on a guitar like that Jazzline though.
Just gorgeous.

I'd want a nice thin varnish or a French polish finish,
not just one designed to 'look' like a violin style finish,
with modern techniques and materials.


I think it's time to strip a guitar down and oil it up myself.

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Carl Greeff

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Oct 9, 2004, 10:21:40 PM10/9/04
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David,

Thanks for the review. The Sadowsky's look nice, and everybody seems to like
them. The D'aquisto is quite a lot cheaper. Seems pretty promising, given that
you liked it so well.

Carl

Carl

skrohn

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Oct 10, 2004, 5:10:22 PM10/10/04
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I've played the Sadowsky. It is very nice.
The Jazzline looks real nice too, however the
finish looked a little 'plastic' in the pictures that
I've seen.

I went for a Borys B120. Same size. Used
they are about the price of a Sadowsky.
I have an extra one for sale right now.
Scott


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Christopher Smith

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Oct 10, 2004, 11:50:26 PM10/10/04
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> I went for a Borys B120. Same size. Used
> they are about the price of a Sadowsky.
> I have an extra one for sale right now.
> Scott

Hey Scott,

If I read this right you've got a Borys B120 for sale? Can you contact
me off the list with the details and any pics? I've been looking for
one!

Thanks!
Chris
chs...@calarts.edu

David Moss

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Oct 11, 2004, 6:35:38 AM10/11/04
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"skrohn" wrote...

> I've played the Sadowsky. It is very nice.
> The Jazzline looks real nice too, however the
> finish looked a little 'plastic' in the pictures that
> I've seen.

No, not plastic in real life - the one I tried in
London was blonde, and I had a sunburst in
my hands at the Frankfurt Music Show. Both
had really beautiful finishes.

BTW, did you consider the ES-175 as an
alternative? I'm curious whether other shoppers
for 16" laminate / routed guitars have compared
that one against the Sadowsky / D'Aquisto /
Borys / Moll etc. alternatives, and if so what
are your thoughts..

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Larry Hogan

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Oct 11, 2004, 7:08:08 PM10/11/04
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"Ken Rose" <ken...@netvigator.com> wrote in message news:<ck9tjb$iq...@imsp212.netvigator.com>...
> Try Golden Age:
>
> http://www.gbase.com/gearlist/guitar_picture.asp?guitar=455597&home=dealer


Perhaps bit OT, but while at Golden Age's site (nice stuff, BTW! Very
nice D'Aguisto copy in the pics as well), I noticed a feature on a
Melo archtop that I've seen in various photos of some of D'Aguisto's
later guitars; a push-stick bridge. Could anyone here please define
what a push-stick bridge actually is, what it's supposed to do, and
how does it work? Did D'Aguisto possibly invert this?

Here's the link to that page where you can clearly see the apparatus.

http://www.gbase.com/gearlist/guitar_picture.asp?guitar=359704&home=dealer


Thanks,
Larry Hogan

Ra

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Oct 11, 2004, 7:35:08 PM10/11/04
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That's got me stumped.

I wish the photo was bigger.

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Ken Rose

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Oct 11, 2004, 8:44:37 PM10/11/04
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D'Aquisto did invent the push-stick bridge. He started using it on some of
the last guitars he made, like the Solo. It does away with the threaded
posts and thumb wheels on most archtop bridges, instead using an ebony wedge
between the bridge base and saddle to adjust the action. You slide the
wedge one way, and it raises the action; the other way, it lowers the
action. I guess the idea was to have a more direct transfer of the string
vibration to the top. Many good luthiers today who use the "traditional"
bridge design like to have as little space between the saddle and the bridge
base for the same reason.

Ken Rose
www.cdbaby.com/kenrose

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skrohn

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Oct 12, 2004, 6:41:20 AM10/12/04
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I have a 58 ES-175 with dual PAFs.
I like the sound of the Borys better.
I have played a Moll 7 string laminate.
It was nice but not as nice as the others mentioned.

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Tony DeCaprio

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Oct 12, 2004, 12:51:56 PM10/12/04
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Ironically speaking, James D'Aquisto, II is going to present a new
line of electrics built to the "tee" of his father's blueprints
(specifications). James has approached Roger Borys to do the building
and myself to help with repping. I will keep you all posted. The
guitar will retail for about 10K. James, JR has taken orders already
just on the rumor. I imagine, if so many luthiers are already copying
the Master, why not REALLY copy him? Will keep you all posted.

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Larry Hogan

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Oct 12, 2004, 11:45:51 PM10/12/04
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Ken,

Thank you for this most informative response. Makes a lot of sense to
me to hear it explained.

Thanks.
Larry Hogan


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Ra

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Oct 16, 2004, 8:20:44 PM10/16/04
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"Tony DeCaprio" wrote


> James has approached Roger Borys to do the building
> and myself to help with repping. I will keep you all posted.


Good luck with them.

May want to change your name to D'Caprio ?

dhn...@sbcglobal.net

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Dec 20, 2004, 3:03:11 PM12/20/04
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skrohn wrote:
> I've played the Sadowsky. It is very nice.
> The Jazzline looks real nice too, however the
> finish looked a little 'plastic' in the pictures that
> I've seen.
>

I played a D'Aquisto Jazzline today at Ed Roman's Guitar Store. It had
a very nice finish. I've never seen the Sadowsky in person, but from
the photos, it looks like it might be identical to the Jazzline.

The guitar was setup nicely and played very smoothly. The only amp
they had in the archtop room was a Deluxe Reverb. The jazzline sounded
fine, though I prefer solid state over tube. Wish they had an Evans or
Polytone to demo the guitar.

Seems like an awefully nice value.

Ken Rose

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Dec 20, 2004, 7:04:09 PM12/20/04
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>
> I played a D'Aquisto Jazzline today at Ed Roman's Guitar Store. It had
> a very nice finish. I've never seen the Sadowsky in person, but from
> the photos, it looks like it might be identical to the Jazzline.
>
> The guitar was setup nicely and played very smoothly. The only amp
> they had in the archtop room was a Deluxe Reverb. The jazzline sounded
> fine, though I prefer solid state over tube. Wish they had an Evans or
> Polytone to demo the guitar.
>
> Seems like an awefully nice value.

I thought the Sadowsky JHM and Aria DJL looked pretty similar, too, so I
asked someone in Japan who sells both. He told me that the same factory is
making both guitars (as well as D'Angelico, Gretsch, and other archtops). I
asked him how he would compare the two, and he thought the Sadowsky had
nicer flamed maple, and a better pickup and tailpiece. Plus, after
completion, all guitars are checked by Sadowsky Tokyo. His view is that the
Sadowsky is better than Aria. (It should be-it costs twice as much!) But
he also said that in the terms of build quality and fretwork, there was no
difference, so he often recommends the Aria as better value for money,
unless someone really wants Jim Hall's name on the headstock.

Ken Rose

www.cdbaby.com/kenrose

ro...@sadowsky.com

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Dec 20, 2004, 7:39:35 PM12/20/04
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> I thought the Sadowsky JHM and Aria DJL looked pretty similar, too,
so I
> asked someone in Japan who sells both. He told me that the same
factory is
> making both guitars (as well as D'Angelico, Gretsch, and other
archtops). I
> asked him how he would compare the two, and he thought the Sadowsky
had
> nicer flamed maple, and a better pickup and tailpiece. Plus, after
> completion, all guitars are checked by Sadowsky Tokyo. His view is
that the
> Sadowsky is better than Aria. (It should be-it costs twice as much!)
But
> he also said that in the terms of build quality and fretwork, there
was no
> difference, so he often recommends the Aria as better value for
money,
> unless someone really wants Jim Hall's name on the headstock.

While the Aria is a very nice guitar for the money, it is not in the
same league as what I am producing.
My tailpieces are made in the US as well as all of the electronics I
send over. The Sadowsky is Nitro finish and the Aria is polyester.
The fretwork is of much higher quality and we do all of the final
fretwork in my NYC shop. My top is a custom thickness--thinner than
the Aria. The neck shapes are completely different too--mine is
thinner. If I did not believe I could produce a much higher quality
instrument than the Aria, I would not have bothered. My associate,
Yoshi, personally supervises my production to insure everything is done
to my specs and we have made special arrangements for only the most
experienced craftsmen in Japan to work on my instruments. Plus, we put
about 10 hours of final work and set-up into each instrument here in
Brooklyn. All of my US dealers who carry both instruments agree that
there is no comparison between the two.

Roger Sadowsky

David Moss

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Dec 21, 2004, 6:35:38 PM12/21/04
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<ro...@sadowsky.com> wrote...

> All of my US dealers who carry both instruments agree that
> there is no comparison between the two.

Not only US - Dave Gillan of Scotland told me, the
Aria D'Aquisto is a terrific guitar but the Sadowsky
is on a different planet. I placed my order already!


aydos

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Dec 22, 2004, 5:53:59 PM12/22/04
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Since half a year i own a Jazz line by D 'aquisto in recommendation of a
danish guitarist;
i've never regretted this purchase; in the beginning quite "stiff" but now
we are getting aquinted and this guitar is reveiling all kind of secrets!
It really does. . . .
If you catch my drift
Greetz from holland
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