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Rodger Eckhart

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Jul 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/3/00
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Hi,

I'm looking for a decent Selmer Style guitar for up to $1500. I would
appreciate anyone's expertise on these guitars. Or if anyone has one for
sale?

Thanks,

Rodger


Francois Rousseau

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Jul 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/3/00
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You're up for a long but very interesting ride.

Here's a first pointer :

http://pages.infinit.net/reinhard/FavLinks.htm#GuitarMakers

Browse each of these links to become familiar with the current players
(the builders / Luthiers)

Following this first list on the URL mentioned above are Guitar Shops
that do have Selmer type guitars.

I'm in the same situation these days. My strategy is to go to France for
a week to look for used Selmer type guitars. I'll also look for new ones
of course.

Another site for information :
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/SRoyall/homepage.htm

I'll follow this thread and I will put some personnal comments later.

Enjoy

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Francois Rousseau
Videotron (IP Telephony)
2000 Berri, 5th floor
Montreal, Quebec
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tel : (514) 380-7324
fax : (514) 380-7337

gooeyboy

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WARNING !!! Do NOT deal with Michael Berg.
He has ripped me off for $2500.00 US and has ripped off 2 other people who I
have been in contact with.

gooeyboy


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mark klan

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Jul 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/4/00
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Rodger Eckhart wrote:
> I'm looking for a decent Selmer Style guitar for up to $1500. I would
> appreciate anyone's expertise on these guitars. Or if anyone has one for
> sale?

I've heard really good things about Shelley D. Park guitars, although I
haven't
played one myself. I think they start around 2 grand. See at:
http://www.parkguitars.com/index.htm
I believe they are used by players in Pearl Django.

Mark

ian

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Jul 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/4/00
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Hi Roger
There are some excellent Luthiers around who are making some really
fine Selmer Style guitars. My advice would be to either seek one out
localy to you and spend some time with them, look at their work and
play some of their instruments or buy one from a Shop/Dealer who knows
about this style of guitar. Please what ever you do don't waste your
money on a mass produced copy. Over here in the U.K. we have som fine
guitar builders look out for guitars made by John Le Voi, Doug Kyle and
Rob Aylward. These makers guitars do make there way over to the States.
The only other comment I would make is these guitars are not like your
average Martin flattop etc. The playing technique is different. For the
Gypsy Style of music nothing beats them and they are at there best when
combined with other string instruments. However I've lost track of the
number of good Country, Rock or Blues players who've picked up my Mac
and put it down a copy of seconds later. They just did'nt know what to
do with. Spend some time playing several guitars before parting with
your money playing some Gypsy Style tunes preferrable with another
guitarist. Them get them to play the guitar you interested in and stand
several feet in front of them. A good Mac style guitar will project
its sound (and sound very loud for an acoustic with) a full tone.
Hope you find your dream guitar

Ian Jackson


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Dallas Selman

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Jul 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/4/00
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I have a rosewood and spruce version of the petite bouche (small oval hole)
copy of a mac by Saga in Japan for sale...dselman@home.com

"Rodger Eckhart" <eck...@erinet.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,


>
> I'm looking for a decent Selmer Style guitar for up to $1500. I would
> appreciate anyone's expertise on these guitars. Or if anyone has one for
> sale?
>

> Thanks,
>
> Rodger
>
>
>

Luke B

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Jul 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/5/00
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ian <ian.jackson.n...@dtn.ntl.com.invalid> wrote in message
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I heartily concur with Ian. Excellent comments and advice. I recently
bought a Michael Dunn - Belleville and I love it, although I was not able to
"comparison shop" before buying it.

I recently met someone who has a DuPont, though, and they were VERY
different from each other. The DuPont was really loud and almost had a
"clanky" sound to it not unlike a resonater guitar (you know, with the pie
plate). The Dunn however had a much sweeter sound and also a bigger variety
of tones to draw out of it - more like a good classical guitar - a lot more
sensitive in other words whereas the DuPont was kind of tonally confined.

Hope this helps! Good luck

Luke B.

Stephen Roberson

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Jul 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/5/00
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I own a Shelley Park guitar and I cannot say enough good things about it.
If you're looking for "that" sound look no further. Not only is she a
talented player and builder, she's one heck of a nice person too.

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Dallas Selman

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Jul 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/5/00
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Specifically I have for sale a DG500, solid rosewood, spruce top, ebony
fretboard, gold hardware. This line was made in Japan starting with the DG
100S (plwood) then a mahogany and a maple, up to the DG500. They are'nt bad
for the money, I A/B'd with a custom made one and it was quite comparable.

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Bob Irwin

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Jul 6, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/6/00
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Check out:

http://www.legatoguitars.com

Dell'Arte makes some nice Django Models. Just brought the Dark Eyes. This is
about the best buy for a Selmer Maccaferri guitar.

If you buy one and live in the Washington D.C. area, and want to jam let me
know:

bobi...@prodigy.net


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Pat Smith

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Jul 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/7/00
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Shelley's guitars are great and she is a wonderful person and a fine
picker. I endorse her guitars wholeheartedly.
Best
Pat

http://www.parkguitars.com/

McGroup

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<< Shelley's guitars are great and she is a wonderful person and a fine
picker. I endorse her guitars wholeheartedly. >>

Just FYI: I have an article on Shelley coming up in Acoustic Guitar, probably
in the October issue. I've played one of her guitars and have spoken with her
many times, and would enthusiastically agree with the positive comments about
her instruments. They're my personal favorite of all the Selmer-repo guitars
out there today, FWIW.

David McCarty
Contributing Writer, Acoustic Guitar


Stephane Boucher

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Jul 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/19/00
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>>>>> "Luke" == Luke B <luke...@knts.com> writes:

> I heartily concur with Ian. Excellent comments and advice. I
> recently bought a Michael Dunn - Belleville and I love it, although
> I was not able to "comparison shop" before buying it.

> I recently met someone who has a DuPont, though, and they were VERY

Minor detail: That would be Dupont :-)

> different from each other. The DuPont was really loud and almost
> had a "clanky" sound to it not unlike a resonater guitar (you know,
> with the pie plate). The Dunn however had a much sweeter sound and
> also a bigger variety of tones to draw out of it - more like a good
> classical guitar - a lot more sensitive in other words whereas the
> DuPont was kind of tonally confined.

One thing to keep in mind too about guitars is that each and everyone
one of them will be different. E.g.:

- I played a 'petite bouche' from a well respected
luthier, and it was disappointing. The harmonic response
was not even. Fret 0 1, 2 of the low E string sounded
bassier than fret 3 and behond. I'm talking about
the overall sound. The fundamental frequency was on target.
(I hope I'm explaining this clearly).
- Angelo Debarre was extremely impressed by a guitar
'grande bouche' from the same luthier, but he pointed
out that this specific example was exceptional compared
to the others he's played.

I'll avoid saying which luthier so as to avoid a flamefest, and because
the point is that working with wood brings in a margin of variation.

BTW, I'll give a plug for an new luthier in the Selmer style world of
guitar:
Jean-Louis ALVES DE PUGA
Luthier
Guitares Jazz-Manouche
10, rue des Prebendes
64100 BAYONNE
Tel: 05 59 25 77 05

Angelo Debarre was playing a prototype "petite bouche" from him
when he was in Montreal and Quebec city last week.

I believe Jean-Louis wants to keep this an affordable instrument.

But I don't have much more information.

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Bob Irwin

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Jul 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/27/00
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I have enjoyed owning my new Dell'Arte Petite Boushce Dark Eyes. It has a
very sweet balanced tone. I would enjoy jamming with a fellow Selmer type
guitar owner who lives in the Washington D.C. area.

--
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