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Evan C-J

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May 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/3/00
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My fake book lists this piece as "Black Orpheus" as played by Wayne Shorter,
but I swear I've seen it written as "A Day in the Life of a Fool" before.
What's the deal?

So you know which one I'm talking about, the changes are:

Am Bm7b5 E7b9 Am Bm7b5 E7b9 Am Dm7 G7
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And on and on, you get the idea. Am I insane here, or is there some sort of
conspiracy to confuse me?

-Evan C-J

Kevin Van Sant

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On Wed, 3 May 2000 21:37:29 -0500, "Evan C-J" <eva...@oz-online.net>
wrote in message <%e5Q4.261$ts6...@newsfeed.slurp.net> :

No , it's actually "Mahna de Carnival" :)


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Jim Fogarty

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May 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/4/00
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Or, as I've seen it on some recordings......."Manana de Carnival" !!!


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Gary Persons

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On May 03 2000, "Evan C-J" <eva...@oz-online.net> wrote:
> My fake book lists this piece as "Black Orpheus" as played by Wayne
> Shorter, but I swear I've seen it written as "A Day in the Life of a
> Fool" before. What's the deal?

If you don't have the original soundtrack to the movie "Black Orpheus"
(probably done in 1960 or so) you should run out and get it. It is a
fantastic view into Brazilian carnival music and has the original
version of Manha De Carnival (Theme from "Black Orpheus") on it.

And, yes, it is the same tune as a "A Day In the Live of a Fool". I
don't know who wrote those English lyrics, but they should be shot.
(Actually, I believe that all extremists should be shot! <G>) The
lyrics have nothing to do with the movie or the original song. They do
rhyme, so...

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Jurupari

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>No , it's actually "Mahna de Carnival" :)

..but everyone knows it as Nancy.

Evan C-J

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Many thanks, now I know I'm not insane.

jv

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It escapes me know, but isn't there a "famous" songwriter who
took great INSTRUMENTAL standard, and put the most inane
lyrics on top?

I remember hearing the intro to "In The Mood", then I start
hearing "Who's the living dolly.."..yecch!

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Stan Gosnell

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On Wed, 3 May 2000 21:37:29 -0500, "Evan C-J" <eva...@oz-online.net>
wrote:

>My fake book lists this piece as "Black Orpheus" as played by Wayne Shorter,
>but I swear I've seen it written as "A Day in the Life of a Fool" before.
>What's the deal?

It's the theme from the movie "Black Orpheus", & the Brazilian title
is "Manha de Carnival", the English title is "A Day In The Life Of A
Fool".

Not the first song with multiple titles. Witness "Do Nothin' Til You
Hear From Me", previously known as "Tootie For Cootie" & "Concerto for
Cootie". Just one example.

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Stan

George4908

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>Not the first song with multiple titles. Witness "Do Nothin' Til You
>Hear From Me", previously known as "Tootie For Cootie" & "Concerto for
>Cootie". Just one example.

Then of course there's "Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star," "Baa, Baa, Black Sheep,
Have You Any Wool?' and the little known "ABC" song. When I pointed this out
to my eight year old, it was an epiphany.

Richard Griffiths

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jv wrote:
It escapes me know, but isn't there a "famous" songwriter who
took great INSTRUMENTAL standard, and put the most inane
lyrics on top?

I remember hearing the intro to "In The Mood", then I start
hearing "Who's the living dolly.."..yecch!
 

You refer to the art of 'vocalese'. You probably heard Eddie Jefferson.  He often used nonsense lyrics.  The other major writer was/is Jon Hendricks of Lambert, Hendricks and Ross fame.  His lyrics try to apply directly to the title and/or the composer.  He has put some excellent lyrics to Charlie Parker heads and solos ('Now is the Time' is one of my favorites) and to Thelonius Monk tunes.  There is an album/CD titled "Carmen sings Monk" that is absolutely amazing.  Jon's lyrics for Round Midnight are haunting.

Richard
  

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Thomas F Brown

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May 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/5/00
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In article <%e5Q4.261$ts6...@newsfeed.slurp.net>,

Evan C-J <eva...@oz-online.net> wrote:
>My fake book lists this piece as "Black Orpheus" as played by Wayne Shorter,
>but I swear I've seen it written as "A Day in the Life of a Fool" before.
>What's the deal?
>
>So you know which one I'm talking about, the changes are:
>
>Am Bm7b5 E7b9 Am Bm7b5 E7b9 Am Dm7 G7
>| | | |
>| | |
>
>And on and on, you get the idea. Am I insane here, or is there some sort of
>conspiracy to confuse me?

Two titles for one song. Black Orpheus is the name of the movie, and
this is the most famous tune. Samba From Black Orpheus is the
"real" Black Orpheus, but lots of people also call this tune
Black Orpheus. Still confused? Don't blame you.

Chip Zempel

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In article <20000504170843...@ng-ch1.aol.com>,
georg...@aol.com (George4908) wrote:

I believe the _original_ tune is French and its title is something like
"Ah, je vous dirais, Maman" or quelque chose comme ca. At least that's the
title that Mozart gave his variations on it.

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