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al

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May 7, 2002, 9:56:19 AM5/7/02
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I just realized that in my years of interest in guitars, I have never
heard anyone whose knowledge I would trust actually say the word
"Ibanez" out loud. Is this brand pronounced "Eye-Ban-Ez" or "EEE(long
e)-Ban-Ez"? Is the accent on the first or second syllabel?

Since it appears to be a Spanish name appropriated by the Japaneze, my
old spanish teachers probably would have said "eee-BAN-ez" (long e,
accent on the second to last (middle) syllabel). However, in my mind
I have always thought "Eye-ban-ez" with accent on the first syllable
(the "eye" part).

What is the correct way to say this? Has anyone ever heard an Ibanez
representative say "Ibanez"? Maybe at a NAAM show? Anyone hear an
Ibanez dealer say "Ibanez"? Or maybe hear George Benson or Pat
Metheny or someone else who has dealt directly with Ibanez say the
word?

Just curious. Now that it occured to me, it will bug me until I find
out the answer.

smooth

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May 7, 2002, 10:14:47 AM5/7/02
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al posted,
> the word
> "Ibanez"
> What is the correct way to say this? Has anyone ever heard an Ibanez
> representative say "Ibanez"?

http://209.86.138.29/discus/messages/17/299.html?0
But I'll post the tekst below, from ibanezcollectors.com, ;

'You want a good laugh? Try this one- ee-bah-nyeth
Look in the dictionary or encyclopedia, as in Vicente Blasco Ibanez,(with
a tilde over the n). 1867-1928, Spanish Novelist.
Oh yeah, I almost forgot-Vicente is pronounced vee-then-teh. No kidding.
I always pronounced it aye-buh-nez, because, can you imagine the funny
looks that would follow if it were pronounced the right way?'

regards,
--
Mike aka smooth

Dutch Jazz guitar club; http://muziek.clubs.nl/jazzgitaar
Ibanez es-175 site; http://httpd.chello.nl/~m.verdonk

Dan Cooper

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May 7, 2002, 10:36:18 AM5/7/02
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That's the Castilian "lisp" (Spain). It wouldn't be pronounced that way in
most of the rest of the Spanish-speaking world.
I've always only heard it pronounced "eye-banez". Why buck the trend?

Dan
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smooth

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May 7, 2002, 10:45:12 AM5/7/02
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Dan Cooper posted,

> That's the Castilian "lisp" (Spain). It wouldn't be pronounced that way in
> most of the rest of the Spanish-speaking world.
> I've always only heard it pronounced "eye-banez". Why buck the trend?

Only thing I always heard was Ie-baa-nes .
Funny how every language (i'm dutch) has his own 'tongval' ways of
pronanciation

Jurupari

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May 7, 2002, 12:01:32 PM5/7/02
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The official pronunciation comes from the state of colorado where Pueblo is
Pee-Yeblo, Buena Vista is Byoona Vista
Salida is Sal-eye-duh, Limon is Lye-mon, Arriba is Air-abba and Coors is still
Trout Piss however you pronounce it.

Clif

Dan Cooper

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May 7, 2002, 12:03:31 PM5/7/02
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"smooth" <smo...@jazz.nl> wrote in message
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> Only thing I always heard was Ie-baa-nes .

Sorry, I should have specified that I was speaking from US-point of view.

> Funny how every language (i'm dutch) has his own 'tongval' ways of
> pronanciation

Yes, funny and awe-inspiring. I'd love to learn Dutch one of these days.

Dan


Patrick L.

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May 7, 2002, 1:55:43 PM5/7/02
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Well, I believe it is a Spanish word, and according to spanish
pronounciation, if it linguistic authenticity you are after, is as
follows:


eee bah NEZ


Accent on third syllable.

In Spanish, the "e" in NEZ sounds a like an English long A, but an
abrupt long A (sounded without the "Y" fall off in English).


But most gringos pronounce it differently, i.,.e EYE buh nehz, to
the pain of any Spaniard who might be listening.


Patrick L.

IvanDRodriguez

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May 7, 2002, 5:41:58 PM5/7/02
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< But most gringos pronounce it differently, i.,.e EYE buh nehz, to
the pain of any Spaniard who might be listening. >

Thank you...:)

Sometimes it's easier to just pronounce it the way the majority does. The other
day I bought a beer called Negra Modelo, and of course pronounced it like I
normally would, the spanish way. You know, rolling the r's and all that. The
bartender didnt understand what I said... so I just re-pronounced it in the way
I'm sure she was use to saying it. I got my beer....LOL

So..Eye-bah-nez ... Eee-ban-nyes... whatever works...:)

Ivan

Dan Cooper

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May 7, 2002, 6:07:47 PM5/7/02
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"IvanDRodriguez" <ivandro...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Are you guys absolutely sure it isn't a Japanese word?
In any case, it is certainly easier - and indeed more correct often enough -
to pronounce it like everyone else. Ever try getting to Detroit by asking
for a bus ticket to 'day-Twa'?

Dan


Bob Russell

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May 7, 2002, 6:16:46 PM5/7/02
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in article TeYB8.1714$km2....@news1.east.cox.net, Dan Cooper at
nos...@cox.net wrote on 5/7/02 6:07 PM:

> Ever try getting to Detroit by asking
> for a bus ticket to 'day-Twa'?

Just rolled in from "Sawn L'wee"!

-- Bob Russell
http://www.bobrussellguitar.com


Max Leggett

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May 7, 2002, 7:09:29 PM5/7/02
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On Tue, 07 May 2002 18:16:46 -0400, Bob Russell
<bobrus...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>in article TeYB8.1714$km2....@news1.east.cox.net, Dan Cooper at
>nos...@cox.net wrote on 5/7/02 6:07 PM:
>
>> Ever try getting to Detroit by asking
>> for a bus ticket to 'day-Twa'?
>
>Just rolled in from "Sawn L'wee"!
>

Useta live in Trawna, but now I'm in Vahoover.

Bill Casady

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May 7, 2002, 8:14:53 PM5/7/02
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>Good one, Clif. And folks, he's not kidding.
-Bill C

A_Riot

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May 7, 2002, 10:57:59 PM5/7/02
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I've heard it pronounced Ive-been-had, but not by a Ibanez dealer...

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Christophe Pinson

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May 8, 2002, 5:36:48 AM5/8/02
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Sorry to drop in, but i'm a bit surprised by this thread as an Ibanez
player as well as a European . I've always been told that Spanish was
the second language in the USA, i guess mainly in the South. Going for
a spanish speaking american and asking him how he pronounces Ibanez (
maybe the most common spanish familly names ! ) should be the easiest
way , am I wrong ?

al

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May 8, 2002, 8:05:45 AM5/8/02
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"A_Riot" <byte...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<kv0C8.383$J46.3...@news20.bellglobal.com>...

In Pittsburgh, there is a town called "New Versailles." The locals
call it "New Ver-sales" (as in "salesperson"). For a few years after
moving here it REALLY bugged me. Now I don't really notice. Haven't
had to say it in public yet though and don't know which way I'd go
(the "snobby" "outsider" French way or the local way just to avoid the
hassle).
> >
> >
> >

Mark Guest

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May 8, 2002, 9:13:55 AM5/8/02
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Hey Max,

I hear ya.

I useta live on the Eyelynn in Tronna, but now live close to Nawlins,
actually on the M'ssipi Gulf Coast.

--
Mark Guest
JazzerWB at JahWho dot com


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al

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May 8, 2002, 12:27:01 PM5/8/02
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christoph...@freesbee.fr (Christophe Pinson) wrote in message news:<3cd8f092...@news.tiscali.fr>...

Well, it kind of misses the point of the thread. As I mentioned in
the initial post, I took some spanish in school and can approximate
the proper spanish name. The question arises from the fact that
Ibanez is a Japanese company that appears to have appropriated a
spanish name. My question is: How do the Japanese owners of the
company pronounce the name? Do they attempt to use proper spanish or
do they say "EYE-ban-ez", which I have heard some people in the states
say? I guess the question wasn't "how SHOULD Ibanez be pronounced?"
it was "has anyone heard from someone who really knows how Ibanez IS
pronounced?"

Jurupari

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May 8, 2002, 12:38:15 PM5/8/02
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just stay the hell outa Can City mazura.


Joey Goldstein

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May 8, 2002, 1:07:57 PM5/8/02
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Why the Hell does anyone care?

--
Joey Goldstein
Guitarist/Jazz Recording Artist/Teacher
Home Page: http://www.joeygoldstein.com
Email: <joegold AT sympatico DOT ca>

Thom_j.

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May 8, 2002, 1:25:20 PM5/8/02
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How did they fit an entire town into Pittsburgh? :)

Thom_j.

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May 8, 2002, 1:32:28 PM5/8/02
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Aahh' dag gum'mit! Its "Uber'Nazz".. Datz what all usin' aMer'eyecons
dun call it.. :)

"Mark Guest" <jazzerw...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Terry H. Parker

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May 8, 2002, 2:21:39 PM5/8/02
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Pronounce it Eye-Ban-Ez or people will look at you funny. Remember Ibanez
was a made up name to make these guitars sound as if they were made in Spain
or Mexico, instead of Asia.

Parker

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Terry H. Parker

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May 8, 2002, 2:28:55 PM5/8/02
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Those of you outside of the USA need to remember that the majority of
people in the USA only speak 1 language. And, they complain if you don't
know their language. I have much respect for the non-USA people who are
intelligent enough to speak their native language and English (one of the
hardest languages to learn!).

Parker

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Tom Walls

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May 8, 2002, 2:43:32 PM5/8/02
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In article <T0eC8.267$1B....@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net>,
terry...@attbi.com says...

> Pronounce it Eye-Ban-Ez or people will look at you funny. Remember Ibanez
> was a made up name to make these guitars sound as if they were made in Spain
> or Mexico, instead of Asia.
>
> Parker
>

Ha! Just as I suspected! Call me what you like -- just don't call me late
for dinner!
--
Tom Walls
the guy at the Temple of Zeus
http://www.arts.cornell.edu/zeus/

A_Riot

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May 8, 2002, 8:52:38 PM5/8/02
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"Joey Goldstein" wrote

> Why the Hell does anyone care?

This is important stuff man!


Norman Webb

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May 8, 2002, 9:07:00 PM5/8/02
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try saying G i b s o n ;-)


al wrote in message ...

Bob Russell

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May 8, 2002, 9:41:20 PM5/8/02
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in article SLjC8.6331$q76.7...@news20.bellglobal.com, A_Riot at
byte...@yahoo.com wrote on 5/8/02 8:52 PM:

>
> "Joey Goldstein" wrote
>
>> Why the Hell does anyone care?
>
> This is important stuff man!
>
>

Well, it's no "vertical vs. horizontal", that's for sure. Or is it?

Charlie Robinson

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May 8, 2002, 9:47:35 PM5/8/02
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<< Joey Goldstein" wrote
>
>> Why the Hell does anyone care?
>
> This is important stuff man!
>
>

Well, it's no "vertical vs. horizontal", that's for sure. Or is it?

--------------------------------------
Russell Malone pronounces it I-ban-knees--I overheard him in NY. I prefer I-ban
-ehz--should there be any further developments I will post immediatly.


Charlie Robinson Jazz Guitarist, Composer
You can hear me online at: http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/robinsonchazz
or: <A HREF="http://rmmgj.iuma.com">http://rmmgj.iuma.com</A>

Joey Goldstein

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May 8, 2002, 11:14:54 PM5/8/02
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The best way to pronounce it for some of their guitars is I-Been-Had.

Joey Goldstein

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May 8, 2002, 11:15:59 PM5/8/02
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Bob Russell wrote:
>
> in article SLjC8.6331$q76.7...@news20.bellglobal.com, A_Riot at
> byte...@yahoo.com wrote on 5/8/02 8:52 PM:
>
> >
> > "Joey Goldstein" wrote
> >
> >> Why the Hell does anyone care?
> >
> > This is important stuff man!
> >
> >
>
> Well, it's no "vertical vs. horizontal", that's for sure. Or is it?

That all depends on what your definition of "is" is, or does it?

Bob Russell

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May 8, 2002, 11:30:23 PM5/8/02
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in article 3CD9E9ED...@nowhere.net, Joey Goldstein at
nos...@nowhere.net wrote on 5/8/02 11:15 PM:

>
>
> Bob Russell wrote:
>>
>> in article SLjC8.6331$q76.7...@news20.bellglobal.com, A_Riot at
>> byte...@yahoo.com wrote on 5/8/02 8:52 PM:
>>
>>>
>>> "Joey Goldstein" wrote
>>>
>>>> Why the Hell does anyone care?
>>>
>>> This is important stuff man!
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Well, it's no "vertical vs. horizontal", that's for sure. Or is it?
>
> That all depends on what your definition of "is" is, or does it?

Define "does"... :-)

Charlie Robinson

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May 9, 2002, 1:08:36 AM5/9/02
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<< The best way to pronounce it for some of their guitars is I-Been-Had.

--
Joey Goldstein
Guitarist/Jazz Recording Artist/Teacher
Home Page: http://www.joeygoldstein.com
Email: <joegold AT sympatico DOT ca>
>>

--------------------------------------------
Luckily I fall into the I-Been-Glad category. But the confusion surrounding the
correct pronunciation of the name causes me to lose valuable practice time, not
to mention sleep.

Adam Bravo

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May 9, 2002, 9:21:35 PM5/9/02
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"Terry H. Parker" <terry...@attbi.com> wrote in message
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> Those of you outside of the USA need to remember that the majority of
> people in the USA only speak 1 language. And, they complain if you don't
> know their language. I have much respect for the non-USA people who are
> intelligent enough to speak their native language and English (one of the
> hardest languages to learn!).

Ask any linguistics professor and they will tell you that no language is
harder than any other - just in certain ways.


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