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Jerry Coker: Improvising Jazz...What are the real tunes?

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newjazz...@hotmail.com

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May 16, 2006, 9:58:05 AM5/16/06
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Hi,

As I think someone mentioned in a prior post, The book "Improvising
Jazz" by Jerry Coker has an appendix that lists a bunch of
"boilerplate" harmonic roadmaps that are supposedly used for many
common Jazz standards.

I'm guessing that he omitted the names of the real songs because of
copyright considerations.
Has anyone ever figured out some of the real tunes that these diagrams
map to?
If so, I would love to see the list!

Thanks,
Jonathan

pmfan57

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May 16, 2006, 11:03:57 AM5/16/06
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This list was previously posted:

"I'm sure it was copyright hassles. I'll take a chance that listing
titles
is not a violation and submit this list:

Appendix D tunes

1. Why Not
2. Our Love is Here To Stay
3. Chelsea Bridge
4. Picadilly
5. Prelude to A Kiss
6. Lil' Darlin'
7. I Cover the Waterfront
8. Rose Room ( In A Mellotone)
9. Street of Dreams
10. Undecided
11. The Chase
12. Bright Eyes
13. Opus No.1
14. Crazy Rhythm
15. This Can't Be Love
16. Broadway
17. It's Almost Like Being in Love
18. Just Friends
19. Moonglow
20. I'll See You in My Dreams
21. Be My Love
22. There'll Never Be Another You
23. Blues (Like Blues For Alice)
24. Algo Bueno (Woody 'N' You)
25. I'll Keep Loving You
26. Best Thing For You is Me
27. I'm Getting Sentimental Over You
28. Tour De Force
29. Stella by Starlight
30. Good Bait
31. Get Happy
32. Topsy
33. Jeepers Creepers
34. Tour De Force
35. Five Bros.
36. Airegin
37. I Didn't Know About You
38. Star Eyes
39. Taking A Chance On Love
40. Broadway
41. Polka Dots & Moon Beams
42. S' Wonderful
43. Once In A While
44. Tea For Two
45. Prelude To A Kiss
46. Baubles, Bangles And Beads
47. Godchild
48. Between The Devil And The Deep Blue Sea
49. If You Could See Me Now
50. Parisian Thoroughfare
51. Lover
52. I'll Remember April
53. Long Ago And Far Away
54. Autumn In New York
55. China Boy
56. Fairyland
57. Idaho
58. My Old Flame
59. Opus No.1
60. Chelsea Bridge
61. Easy Living
62. Darn That Dream
63. Half-Nelson (Ladybird)
64. For Heaven's Sake
65. In A Sentimental Mood
66. Smoke Get In Your Eyes
67. Best Thing For You Is Me
68. If I Had You
69. They Can't Take That Away From Me
70. I Never Knew (Morning Fun)
71. These Foolish Things
72. My One And Only Love
73. Rosetta (Yardbird Suite)
74. Don't You Know I Care
75. Gone With the Wind
76. Tangerine
77. I Love You
78. Too Marvelous for Words
79. How High the Moon
80. Tune-Up
81. Solar
82. Laura
83. Cherokee
84. Star Eyes "

googledawg

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May 16, 2006, 11:22:32 AM5/16/06
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WOW! - great list - and i think part of the issue, besides
copyrightnwrong is that there are more than one tune that use the
progression - i think THAT is part of the point he's making. and that
maybe a tune would vary by a chord or two, but that some progressions
just occur more than others.

Coker's also got this great section on mapping T-D- and subcom
sections- and how you can kind of "minimalize" the harmony in sections.

i think it's called reduction in another excercise - (1) a tune (2)
analysis (3) lead sheet (4) reduction. microsecond recognition of
something you've never played before. well, that's ANOTHER theory...

newjazz...@hotmail.com

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May 16, 2006, 11:37:11 AM5/16/06
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Many thanks!

Do you know if anyone's ever similarly mapped any of the AABA patterns
in appendix C?

googledawg

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May 16, 2006, 2:41:49 PM5/16/06
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no, i dont know much about that - but there's some serious
AABBAABABBABAA geeks in here that could probably tell you quickern you
could Modulate a major third!

newjazz...@hotmail.com

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May 16, 2006, 3:03:25 PM5/16/06
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>no, i dont know much about that - but there's some serious
>AABBAABABBABAA geeks in here that could probably tell you quickern you
>could Modulate a major third!

Haha
No problem...I can probably figure 'em out from my fake books.
I recognized the "I Got Rhythm" bridge right away...Gonna have to work
for the others :)

Thanks again!

newjazz...@hotmail.com

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May 16, 2006, 3:03:44 PM5/16/06
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>no, i dont know much about that - but there's some serious
>AABBAABABBABAA geeks in here that could probably tell you quickern you
>could Modulate a major third!

Haha

glen

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May 16, 2006, 4:46:27 PM5/16/06
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Hi

don't know if this is what you're looking for but Mark Levine's Jazz
theory book has a long list of tunes that are based on the changes to
other tunes. Amazing how much mileage has been got out of rhythm
changes alone.

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Keith Freeman

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May 16, 2006, 6:22:31 PM5/16/06
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> Mark Levine's Jazz
> theory book has a long list of tunes that are based on the changes to
> other tunes.
Contrafacta. Coker's Hearin' The Changes also has that.

-Keith

Portable Changes, tips etc. at http://home.wanadoo.nl/keith.freeman/
e-mail only to keith DOT freeman AT wanadoo DOT nl

newjazz...@hotmail.com

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May 17, 2006, 9:47:52 AM5/17/06
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>Contrafacta. Coker's Hearin' The Changes also has that.

I have that book too :)
I'm just trying to reduce the patterns to managable chunks I can
recognize by ear.
BTW, Marc Sabatella's book (The Harmonic Language Of Jazz Standards) is
another great book on jazz harmony.
Between those three books, I think I have what I need.

Tone

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May 17, 2006, 11:02:13 AM5/17/06
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This is aimed specifically at what you're trying to do:
http://www.jazzwise.com/catalog/infopages.php?info_id=11

The author also as a big collection of of jazz recordings of the tunes
to listen to for the "chunks" (he calls them lego bricks). Also a bunch
of play along tracks for the various chunks in all keys with
modulations from one to another using all the possible intervalic
"joins" - going into from a ii V from a minor third below it, or above
it, etc. because recognizing how its being entered matters too. And its
an interesting book on jazz even for non musicians.

cww...@gmail.com

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Jun 8, 2016, 10:58:02 AM6/8/16
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On Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 8:03:57 AM UTC-7, pmfan57 wrote:
> newjazz...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > As I think someone mentioned in a prior post, The book "Improvising
> > Jazz" by Jerry Coker has an appendix that lists a bunch of
> > "boilerplate" harmonic roadmaps that are supposedly used for many
> > common Jazz standards.
> >
> > I'm guessing that he omitted the names of the real songs because of
> > copyright considerations.
> > Has anyone ever figured out some of the real tunes that these diagrams
> > map to?
> > If so, I would love to see the list!
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jonathan
>
> This list was previously posted:
>
> "I'm sure it was copyright hassles. I'll take a chance that listing
> titles
> is not a violation and submit this list:
>


Thanks for the list. It's interesting that 6 of the tunes are listed twice. Why is that? Just curious.
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