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Epiphone Broadway Elitist or Ibanez L5C ??

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ROE

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Nov 18, 2007, 11:31:11 AM11/18/07
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Hey
I just did a comparison between those guitars. I need another pickup on the
Ibanez but it's a nice guitar. If you care to listen, which do you prefer?
Suggestions for both guitars are welcome.
Link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wwxbhh42Nag


Joey Goldstein

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Nov 18, 2007, 11:50:07 AM11/18/07
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Great playing man!
Really strong right hand and you don't get hung up on picking every note
all the time like many who have developed a strong right hand tend to
do. Helps give you real smooth natural type of phrasing.

What's your name?
Have you posted here very often in the past? I see a few very recent things.
Are you the same guy who posted an acoustic video clip on the Epi
Elitist several months ago?
Do you have a web site?

I guess that if the Ibanez is truly an L5 clone then it's got a solid
carved top and, at least acoustically, it should be a superior guitar to
the Epi. With a better pickup, in theory, it should sound better than
the Epi.
It's hard to hear the acoustic qualities of these guitars in your video,
but overall, the Epi sounded better to me. But you played better on the
Epi too. The Epi, even an Elitist model, could probably do with some
better pickups too.

I think that a player of your talents could do better than either of
these guitars actually. Don't know what to suggest though. Eastman?
D'Angelico? Heritage Eagle? A real L5?

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Joey Goldstein
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joegold AT sympatico DOT ca

Greger Hoel

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Nov 18, 2007, 12:29:14 PM11/18/07
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Whichever is which, I prefer the one with the floater. You can make
them both sound sweet and nice, but the one with top mounted pickups has
a sort of dull, uncomplex sweetness to it, IMO. I also think the
hairiness of the floater sounds good with your playing -- some acoustic
archtop guys have that hairy midrange in in each pickstroke, but not you.
Bra spilling -- du gjør oss her hjemme på berget stolte :)

--
They lived like animals; they neither smoked nor drank

mike

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Nov 18, 2007, 12:33:07 PM11/18/07
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Ibanez. I commented on youtube about jazz guitarists not embracing
the brighter sound. I'm not a fan of the rolled off treble sound.
The Ibanez has more spank to it and just sounds like a better guitar.

Greger Hoel

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Nov 18, 2007, 12:49:01 PM11/18/07
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Whichever is which, I prefer the one with the floater. You can make

Greger Hoel

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Nov 18, 2007, 12:48:23 PM11/18/07
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Whichever is which, I prefer the one with the floater. You can make

tom walls

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Nov 18, 2007, 1:00:00 PM11/18/07
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On Nov 18, 11:31 am, "ROE" <joyce...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

I prefer the Epiphone, but think the Ibanez is better looking. Nice
playing.

Mark Cleary

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Nov 18, 2007, 1:10:18 PM11/18/07
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Really nice playing and as someone who picks most of the notes I play I
appreciated the edge and lines. Actually they sound pretty close to each
other in terms of sound not a real big difference. For me it would be which
neck feels the best to play on. Personally if the L5 copy if it is a true
solid top then I would much rather have that guitar. I also would have a KA
PAF floater on the guitar and then I would really like to hear the cut
again.

I find KA's personally made floating PAF with the double exposed Pole pieces
to be the best picks for jazz. I have one on my Campellone to it is the best
PU I have on any guitar I own. The Hollenbeck has a JS pickup Kent rewound
for me and while it sounds great I still give the edge to his own PAF's,.
The reason is the bottom end of the PU really stands out and from the
recording your sharp attack and sound I think may sound even fuller on this
type of a PU. I am not sure the PU in the epi and if they could benefit from
a pickup swap. Would be interesting this guitar with Gibson 57 classics
maybe that is another option. Finally, you play at a level that demands some
serious attention for a better guitar like an L5 or a handmade one from a
number to makers. The catch is that you may not actually get much better
sound out of the guitar through and amp but it would improve playing at home
acoustically. Post another cut of your playing would love to hear some more.


--
Mark Cleary makes music on the finest Jazz guitars.
http://hollenbeckguitar.com/

Rick Ross

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Nov 18, 2007, 2:27:56 PM11/18/07
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"ROE" <joyc...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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you're a great player..either guitar works for me in your hands...

sheets

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Nov 18, 2007, 2:53:12 PM11/18/07
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On Nov 18, 11:31 am, "ROE" <joyce...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

I couldn't get the clip to play but I listened to a couple other of
your clips and you are a fantastic player. You have any recordings out?

onlyserious

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Nov 18, 2007, 5:54:22 PM11/18/07
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This is him: http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/musician.php?id=1042

And he has several videos on youtube--I like his "Redneck Samba" the
best.

gibso...@gmail.com

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Nov 18, 2007, 6:04:54 PM11/18/07
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The Epi Elitist line has solid carved tops. I played a Byrdland
elitist last week and was blown away. Try to try the Epi Byrdland
before making a decision.

Great playing, by the way. You'll sound good on whatever you get.

Joey Goldstein

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Nov 18, 2007, 6:24:29 PM11/18/07
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gibso...@gmail.com wrote:
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> The Epi Elitist line has solid carved tops.

Are you sure about that?
All their web site says is "solid spruce". It says nothing about it
being carved. That's usually code for at best a pressed top or at worst
just a laminate spruce top.

At the $2k price I see they're selling for online I doubt it's a carved top.

sheets

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Nov 18, 2007, 6:47:33 PM11/18/07
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He's wrong. They are solid but pressed.

On Nov 18, 7:24 pm, Joey Goldstein <nos...@nowhere.net> wrote:

gibso...@gmail.com

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Nov 18, 2007, 7:04:54 PM11/18/07
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i was wrong -sorry about that. But the Elitist line is great. And do
try the Epi Elitist Byrdland.

Joey Goldstein

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Nov 18, 2007, 7:30:39 PM11/18/07
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That's what I figured.
But several of the online retailers are coming out and saying "carved"
even though Epiphone never said it was.
There might be a lot of pissed off buyers out there.

roe

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Nov 19, 2007, 1:04:29 AM11/19/07
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The Broadway that I'm playing is actually an elitist. Thatone is my second
one. It's a pretty nice guitar but not as nice as a real L5. The top is
solid pressed with one supportive layer underneath.

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roe

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Nov 19, 2007, 1:07:23 AM11/19/07
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Takker for kompliment ;-) Hva skjer'a? Ere noe fres i gamlelandet?


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roe

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Nov 19, 2007, 1:17:46 AM11/19/07
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thanks for the comment!
I do have an Elferink on order. It'll be the Excalibur body with the
Tonemaster headstock. I'm thinking maybe to go from a 17" lower bout to a
16.5". It would fit my size a little better. It's supposed to be done in
september next year... I'll travel to Holland to pick it up and to maybe see
a few of the excellent players over there.


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roe

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Nov 19, 2007, 1:25:09 AM11/19/07
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It's funny you mention that you can't play it because I can't play it either
on my desktop but it plays fine on the laptop, which has win vista and
probably a newer version of firefox. I didn't try playing it in explorer on
my desktop though, maybe that would work...?
I have no record out even though I do have some material that is due... It
has a little more of a modern twist though.
thanks for your comment!

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Greger Hoel

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Nov 19, 2007, 3:26:46 AM11/19/07
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roe wrote:
> Hva skjer'a? Ere noe fres i gamlelandet?

Kan vel ikke si dét -- her er det fortsatt gode gamle Robert Normann
som er kongen, vet du ;) Ellers er det en kar fra Øskfjord, som har gitt
ut et par, tre sterkt kritikerroste plater nå til, Hallgeir Pedersen:
http://www.hallgeirpedersen.com/ Det er linker til et par fete videoer
og greier, på siden hans. Har ikke fått sett han live, ennå, han har
vært sparsommelig med opptredener her i Tromsø, men han er en satans
bra gitarist.
Utenom gitar, så vil jeg vel trekke fram særlig Petter Wettre, som du
sikkert har hørt før: http://www.petterwettre.com Han kom ut med sin
Love Supreme, sitt mesterverk, tidligere i år, til stormende jubel.

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