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Joe Cinderella - Arpeggios
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Gerry
Mar 26, 2012, 5:18:35 PM3/26/12
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Anybody ever gotten any use out of "A New Dimension in Guitar
Technique: Jazz Arpeggios for Guitar" by Joe Cinderella? It was
published by Comerica in '83.
It has a packet of sheets in a pocket in the back of the book. The
book itself is just instructions on which page from the pocket to use
to learn a chord. For example:
Lesson Twelve (12th Week) V7b9 - Refer to the principal Dominant Class
V, group three plate 5A, located in the pocket on the inside backcover.
Lean and memorize thoroughly the dominant Seventh Flat Nine Arpeggio,
V7b9 in its A and B form using the practice procedure outlined on pages
17 and 18. When the arpeggios are not being combined pracgice them
ascending and descending. Use alternate picking ascending and escending.
Then he has you using them in II-V progressions using one form to
another form, and progressing through longer sequences (e.g. 25th Week:
V11 connected to V7, V7b5, V7#5, V7b9, V7#9, V9, V9b5 and V13 in
various locations.)
Anybody plumbed this for potential utility?
--
If one plays good music, people don't listen and if one plays bad music
people don't talk. -- Oscar Wilde
Technique: Jazz Arpeggios for Guitar" by Joe Cinderella? It was
published by Comerica in '83.
It has a packet of sheets in a pocket in the back of the book. The
book itself is just instructions on which page from the pocket to use
to learn a chord. For example:
Lesson Twelve (12th Week) V7b9 - Refer to the principal Dominant Class
V, group three plate 5A, located in the pocket on the inside backcover.
Lean and memorize thoroughly the dominant Seventh Flat Nine Arpeggio,
V7b9 in its A and B form using the practice procedure outlined on pages
17 and 18. When the arpeggios are not being combined pracgice them
ascending and descending. Use alternate picking ascending and escending.
Then he has you using them in II-V progressions using one form to
another form, and progressing through longer sequences (e.g. 25th Week:
V11 connected to V7, V7b5, V7#5, V7b9, V7#9, V9, V9b5 and V13 in
various locations.)
Anybody plumbed this for potential utility?
--
If one plays good music, people don't listen and if one plays bad music
people don't talk. -- Oscar Wilde
Neer
Mar 28, 2012, 1:27:50 PM3/28/12
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I still had it....haha.
Gerry
Mar 30, 2012, 1:53:22 PM3/30/12
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On 2012-03-26 21:18:35 +0000, Gerry said:
> Anybody ever gotten any use out of "A New Dimension in Guitar
> Technique: Jazz Arpeggios for Guitar" by Joe Cinderella? It was
> published by Comerica in '83.
>
> It has a packet of sheets in a pocket in the back of the book. The
> book itself is just instructions on which page from the pocket to use
> to learn a chord. For example:
While rooting around in google-groups I find that Neer responded:
> Anybody ever gotten any use out of "A New Dimension in Guitar
> Technique: Jazz Arpeggios for Guitar" by Joe Cinderella? It was
> published by Comerica in '83.
>
> It has a packet of sheets in a pocket in the back of the book. The
> book itself is just instructions on which page from the pocket to use
> to learn a chord. For example:
> I think that may be the book I sold to you years ago.
> I kind of wish I still had it....haha.
actually figuring out those cards in the back-pocket for you:
http://tinyurl.com/8xbrxee
Neer
Mar 30, 2012, 3:27:56 PM3/30/12
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guy named Ed Capuano, a jazz guitarist who ran a store called Sweetest
Sounds in NJ/
Gerry
Apr 21, 2012, 8:27:43 PM4/21/12
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For the many who showed so much enthusiasm for this document, I've now
lodged it on the rmmgj page:
http://rmmgj.blogspot.com
lodged it on the rmmgj page:
http://rmmgj.blogspot.com
van
Apr 22, 2012, 4:05:43 AM4/22/12
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We here on the Internest don't take a liking to anything that costs
money. ; - )
Gerry
Apr 22, 2012, 10:53:33 AM4/22/12
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Jonathan
Apr 22, 2012, 3:19:18 PM4/22/12
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On Apr 21, 8:27 pm, Gerry <addr...@domain.com> wrote:
Let us know when you're ready to publish a book :)
Gerry
Apr 22, 2012, 6:21:45 PM4/22/12
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On 2012-04-22 19:19:18 +0000, Jonathan said:
> On Apr 21, 8:27 pm, Gerry <addr...@domain.com> wrote:
>> For the many who showed so much enthusiasm for this document, I've now
>> lodged it on the rmmgj page:
>>
>> http://rmmgj.blogspot.com
>
> On Apr 21, 8:27 pm, Gerry <addr...@domain.com> wrote:
>> For the many who showed so much enthusiasm for this document, I've now
>> lodged it on the rmmgj page:
>>
>> http://rmmgj.blogspot.com
>
> I really like what you've done. Please keep the documents coming!
> Let us know when you're ready to publish a book :)
Well we need to keep onions and potatoes in different places in the
> Let us know when you're ready to publish a book :)
pantry. Joe Cinderella, Chuck Wayne and countless others, put together
their various efforts over the years. Without djangobooks.com, I
wouldn't have the first (and most useful book) by George Van Eps, or
the Eddie Lang book--two books that I'd heard of for years but had been
buried in time.
With Cinderella and Wayne, they both had really oddball formats that
could not be replicated in re-distribution by Hal Leonard or
djangobooks.com, and so faced the same a more permanent oblivion.
These are just tributes to those guys.
Larry Hogan
Apr 22, 2012, 7:04:55 PM4/22/12
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Chuck Wayne Arpeggio book with the slide-thingie, but your adaption is
much easier to use.
Also, thanks for your blog; I hadn't known about it until this
thread. :-)
Larry
Jonathan
Apr 25, 2012, 2:24:19 PM4/25/12
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Gerry
Apr 25, 2012, 3:38:40 PM4/25/12
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On 2012-04-25 18:24:19 +0000, Jonathan said:
> On Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:21:45 PM UTC-4, Gerry wrote:
>> On 2012-04-22 19:19:18 +0000, Jonathan said:
>>
>>> On Apr 21, 8:27 pm, Gerry <addr...@domain.com> wrote:
>>>> For the many who showed so much enthusiasm for this document, I've now
>>>> lodged it on the rmmgj page:
>>>>
>>>> http://rmmgj.blogspot.com
>>>
>>> I really like what you've done. Please keep the documents coming!
>>> Let us know when you're ready to publish a book :)
>>
>> Well we need to keep onions and potatoes in different places in the>
>> pantry. Joe Cinderella, Chuck Wayne and countless others, put
>> together> their various efforts over the years.
[…]
> On Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:21:45 PM UTC-4, Gerry wrote:
>> On 2012-04-22 19:19:18 +0000, Jonathan said:
>>
>>> On Apr 21, 8:27 pm, Gerry <addr...@domain.com> wrote:
>>>> For the many who showed so much enthusiasm for this document, I've now
>>>> lodged it on the rmmgj page:
>>>>
>>>> http://rmmgj.blogspot.com
>>>
>>> I really like what you've done. Please keep the documents coming!
>>> Let us know when you're ready to publish a book :)
>>
>> Well we need to keep onions and potatoes in different places in the>
>> pantry. Joe Cinderella, Chuck Wayne and countless others, put
>> together> their various efforts over the years.
>> These are just tributes to those guys.
>
> Understood. That is a laudable endeavor in it own right. I was
> referring to the "intro to triads" doc. I get the impression that you
> have more installments planned.
Maybe. Depends on the audience..
> referring to the "intro to triads" doc. I get the impression that you
> have more installments planned.
pmfan57
Apr 25, 2012, 4:51:37 PM4/25/12
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Gerry
Apr 25, 2012, 4:54:04 PM4/25/12
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On 2012-04-25 20:51:37 +0000, pmfan57 said:
> Those Eddie Lang books are pretty cool.
There's more than one?
> Those Eddie Lang books are pretty cool.
thomas
Apr 25, 2012, 5:02:30 PM4/25/12
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On Apr 25, 4:54 pm, Gerry <addr...@domain.com> wrote:
> On 2012-04-25 20:51:37 +0000, pmfan57 said:
>
> > Those Eddie Lang books are pretty cool.
>
> There's more than one?
I've never read any of them but--I thought there was a method book,
> On 2012-04-25 20:51:37 +0000, pmfan57 said:
>
> > Those Eddie Lang books are pretty cool.
>
> There's more than one?
and I think there is also a folio of solo guitar arrangements
including April Kisses. I could be wrong on the second one, though.
Gerry
Apr 25, 2012, 6:19:13 PM4/25/12
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but I assume there once was one because in Mel Bay's "Masters of
Plectrum Guitar" (1995) there are 6 Lang pieces. There are 4 solos
(pub. date 1933) and 2 duos with Joe Venuti (pub. date 1938).
http://tinyurl.com/773nd6b
There is also the method book edited by Dave Berend, 1935 available at
djangobooks.com:
http://tinyurl.com/796vdnd
Gerry
Apr 25, 2012, 6:40:10 PM4/25/12
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On 2012-04-25 22:19:13 +0000, Gerry said:
> There is also the method book edited by Dave Berend, 1935 available at
> djangobooks.com:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/796vdnd
I dug this thing back out after many years. I realize I've never
> There is also the method book edited by Dave Berend, 1935 available at
> djangobooks.com:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/796vdnd
actualy read the thing cover-to-cover, though I poked around in it a
while long ago. I remember it spending a lot of time on 5 and 6 note
voicings. Guitarists faced a completely different set of problems
then. So I thought, "Hmm, maybe I oughta go through the whole thing for
fun."
The first text, after a bunch of key, chord and scale reference charts is this:
> This book is intended for andvanced players. It is taken for granted
> that the student knows all chords (in all their forms or inversions)
> key signatures, scales, etc. Studnets not familiar with any chords
> referred to here, will find them fully explained in Eddie Lang's
> Intermediate book, "Fingerboard Harmony" for the Plectrum Guitar.
So head at least had two method books at one time, and in theory one
was published prior to this one in 1935.
I think I'll give it a more thorough spin.
paulmitc...@gmail.com
Apr 29, 2012, 6:38:13 PM4/29/12
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http://tinyurl.com/888dxr6
Gerry
Apr 29, 2012, 6:53:48 PM4/29/12
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On 2012-04-29 22:38:13 +0000, paulmitc...@gmail.com said:
>> The first text, after a bunch of key, chord and scale reference charts is this:
>>
>>> This book is intended for andvanced players. It is taken for granted
>>> that the student knows all chords (in all their forms or inversions)
>>> key signatures, scales, etc. Studnets not familiar with any chords
>>> referred to here, will find them fully explained in Eddie Lang's
>>> Intermediate book, "Fingerboard Harmony" for the Plectrum Guitar.
>>
>> So [he had] at least had two method books at one time, and in theory one
>> The first text, after a bunch of key, chord and scale reference charts is this:
>>
>>> This book is intended for andvanced players. It is taken for granted
>>> that the student knows all chords (in all their forms or inversions)
>>> key signatures, scales, etc. Studnets not familiar with any chords
>>> referred to here, will find them fully explained in Eddie Lang's
>>> Intermediate book, "Fingerboard Harmony" for the Plectrum Guitar.
>>
>> was published prior to this one in 1935.
>>
>> I think I'll give it a more thorough spin.
>
>>
>> I think I'll give it a more thorough spin.
>
> Gerry, you may have figured this out by now but Lang's "Fingerboard
> Harmony" book is also available from djangobooks:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/888dxr6
I hadn't, Paul. Thanks for the pointer.
> Harmony" book is also available from djangobooks:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/888dxr6
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