What are you doing when you are not playing the guitar?
Lun
what are your day jobs???
I just started work as a teacher but the only thing that i am
preoccupied with is that i want to go home and practice. Can anyone
offer me a job that has something to do with guitar or jazz?
haha
LYL
tom walls
nul...@gmail.com says...
--
Tom Walls
the guy at the Temple of Zeus
Jon G
my day job is private lessons.
most often having very little to do with jazz.
pmfan57
> In article <1180975225.469765.52...@q19g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
> nulg...@gmail.com says...> Hey guys,
>
> > what are your day jobs???
>
> > I just started work as a teacher but the only thing that i am
> > preoccupied with is that i want to go home and practice. Can anyone
> > offer me a job that has something to do with guitar or jazz?
> > haha
>
> > LYL
>
> I'm the guy at the Temple of Schmoose.
> --
> Tom Walls
> the guy at the Temple of Zeus
After all, someone has to guard the temple!
Claus Rogge
> what are your day jobs???
I´m a guitar teacher.
--
http://cdbaby.com/cd/rogge
http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/
viewAlbum?playListId=193467678
tomb...@jhu.edu
If you have to do something for money, there is a greater danger of
coming to resent that task. This is why I never became a guitar
teacher or gigolo.
Nate Najar
i work construction. not the best thing for a guy who plays the
classical guitar with nails. I'm usually the only guy you'll see on
the job wearing gloves! but if i screw up my fingers or right hand
nails then i can't play!
Nate
Mark Kleinhaut
>
> i work construction. not the best thing for a guy who plays the
> classical guitar with nails. I'm usually the only guy you'll see on
> the job wearing gloves! but if i screw up my fingers or right hand
> nails then i can't play!
>
> Nate
Shoot, Nate, I didn't want to read that. Do yourself something
sensible and go get a job working at a bank or something. It's easier
than it looks and you'll rarely break a nail on the job.
Gerry
> In article <1180975225....@q19g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
> nul...@gmail.com says...
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> what are your day jobs???
>>
>> I just started work as a teacher but the only thing that i am
>> preoccupied with is that i want to go home and practice. Can anyone
>> offer me a job that has something to do with guitar or jazz?
>> haha
>>
>> LYL
>>
>>
> I'm the guy at the Temple of Schmoose.
Do you actually shmooze with the shuffling masses? Hell, I might stop
by for soup, if you're actually operating as the Greeter.
--
///---
Gerry
Yeah, it was tough giving up the dream of a gigolo empire for me too.
--
///---
Martacus
I taught guitar/played weddings/club dates full time the 13 years
previous to that; I find that I actually prefer doing software to non-
jazz music work. I ENJOY software work, while I was constantly annoyed/
aggravated/depressed playing Madonna tunes and teaching Metallica
while turning down jazz gigs that would leave me unable to pay the
bills. I like my playing more now, as well, since I can focus
completely on the repertoire I like.
335p...@gmail.com
i work in a bank in training, tech writing and instructional design. I
do quite a bit of keyboarding and it's been hell on my hands.
Mark Kleinhaut
>
> - Show quoted text -
I never considered keyboard work hard on the hands, although you may
do much more of it than I do. Much of my bank job is spent on the
phone.
Tim McNamara
I am not doing that or playing guitar, I am riding my bike. I probably
put more time into pedaling than guitar, actually- although yesterday
was a rainy day and I spent three or four hours playing, working on
stuff from jb's Web site.
Vince
:>)
cl...@claymoore.com
Hi Lun,
I play guitar in a jazz quartet, have one private student (at
present), and will be teaching two classes this fall at UTB - jazz
improv, and a jazz guitar ensemble. I also work with a venue in
McAllen, TX on the booking side of things. I enjoy playing the guitar
and I'm damned glad to be able to support my wife, daughter, and me on
the meager income that I earn from it, but I'll tell you, it's not all
fun and games. To tell anecdotes would be indiscreet and largely
pointless - I feel I'm responsible for my own well-being and I've
chosen what I do - but there are times I wish I were doing a different
job. I just don't know what that job would be.
Clay Moore
Mark & Steven Bornfeld
God, I'm a guilty former cyclist. I get maybe an hour a week
now--gotta get back in shape. As you know, it's as good for the head as
it is for the body.
Steve
--
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001
Max Leggett
wrote:
I found the same thing. I loved the depth and subtlety I could get
into when all I did was eat sleep and breathe music - Chops R Us - but
I never liked the music business or the kinds of gigs I used to gave
to do to make the rent, not to mention the travelling. I recall a
wedding reception where, on the third request for Knees Up Mother
Brown, I announced to the band that I was going to get drunk in self
defence. I was never more than a capable mid level pro: had I been
more talented things might have been otherwise, but when I got my
first real day gig, at 27, the luxury of regular paycheques, no hand
to mouth, no a*****e agents, no Knees Up Mother Brown, plus there were
women everywhere and they weren't barflies or boasting about how many
bennies the'd popped, I found it very appealing and, compared to
music, dead easy. So I went back to skule and did a B.Comm - I figured
that if I was going to put more emphasis on income than music then I
should be serious about it - and blah blah blah. I love music: I
think it's the language of the gods: I love being utterly immersed, to
the exclusion of all else, in music. But being an entertainer, which
is what I had to be to make a living from music, really was not for
me. I an't no stinkin' Artiste or nothin', and I would never say that
my decision was right and any others are wrong, but making money as a
musician, as opposed to an entertainer, is something reserved for very
few.
Knees up Mother Brown
Knees up Mother Brown
Under the table you must go
Ee-aye, Ee-aye, Ee-aye-oh
If I catch you bending
I'll saw your legs right off
Knees up, knees up
Never get the breeze up
Knees up Mother Brown
That gig paid well, too, as did the series of gigs we did in straw
hats and striped vests. LOL! No regrets. None.
Max Leggett
wrote:
>That gig paid well, too, as did the series of gigs we did in straw
>hats and striped vests. LOL! No regrets. None.
>
What I mean is, no regrets about the music. None.
>
>
>
Max Leggett
wrote:
>my decision was right and any others are wrong, but making money as a
>musician, as opposed to an entertainer, is something reserved for very
>few.
And I have to qualify that, too. Any idiot can pay the rent and put
food on the table: I did, and I'm an idiot, but to have enough left
over for health insurance, retirement savings, and whatnot is another
thing altogether. I have always had a dread of poverty in my old age
from stories of my great-great-uncle John Frost, a clipper captain,
who regularly sent money home, but when he had to retire he found his
wife hadn't saved what he'd sent but had gambled it away on the dogs,
and he ended up in the workhouse. Plus he went blind. Shades of Josef
Konrad, the poor bugger. I haven't that tolerance for risk. I think
Wamble's got the right idea: an undergraduate degree in music and a
master's in education. Go out and gig and make a name for yourself and
the security of a good teaching gig will be there if you don't make it
all the way.
Mark Cleary
Church. I can tell if I was paid union scale for all the time I have spent
the past 2weeks preparing homilies ( 2 weekend Masses and a funeral Mass
tomorrow) I could pay a few bills. I am glad not to teach guitar anymore I
really only like to teach advanced players.
--
Mark Cleary makes music on the finest Jazz guitars.
http://members.cox.net/ruthster/hollenbeck/
"Gerry" <some...@sunny.calif> wrote in message
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pmfan57
Have you ever seen that "Lemming of the BDA" skit from Monty Python?
pmfan57
Charlie X
Kudos to Martacus! Im a CPA with one of the Big 4 firms. I used to be
full time guitarist in the hollywood studios...playing nothing but
crap (and never any jazz) usually behind some no talent singer. Quit
that...went to school..now i have an interesting job, make tons of
cash and NEVER play any music that I am not totally excited about. If
no one listens, i stay just as excited. I never have to play (or even
HEAR) any garbage music that I dont like. Its the best of all
possible worlds for me.
I almost went nuts when i was teaching guitar...I really respect
anyone who can handle that gig long term!
hear my clips at http://charliex.org
invisaman75
I am a systems engineer for a large telecommunications company. I have
been semi-pro player (with some sort of part time or full-time job)
but now just a serious hobbyist. I stop playing for about ten years. I
taught guitar in my early years and burn out on it really quick. I
learn never to say never but I can say right now I do not really want
to teach guitar at any level. I having too much fun learning from info
I get from this newsgroup and other sources. I stop playing for about
10 years. I returned in 2001 and stopped but returning in 2002. I
lurked in this newsgroup for years before posting. The lurking years
along with consistent (but not a lot of hours) practice help me get
back playing. Well 'nuff said .... sorry for the rant!
Steven Bornfeld
No, thanks--and it's new to me! Kinda lessens the appeal of the
National Health Service.
Steve
Tim McNamara
Mark & Steven Bornfeld <bornfe...@dentaltwins.com> wrote:
> Tim McNamara wrote:
> > I'm a psychologist and spend my days consulting in nursing homes.
> > When I am not doing that or playing guitar, I am riding my bike. I
> > probably put more time into pedaling than guitar, actually-
> > although yesterday was a rainy day and I spent three or four hours
> > playing, working on stuff from jb's Web site.
>
>
> God, I'm a guilty former cyclist. I get maybe an hour a week
> now--gotta get back in shape. As you know, it's as good for the head
> as it is for the body.
Absolutely! I feel much more alert and mentally efficient when I am
getting regular exercise.
Tim McNamara
"Vince" <bluesb...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > I'm a psychologist and spend my days consulting in nursing homes.
> > When I am not doing that or playing guitar, I am riding my bike. I
> > probably put more time into pedaling than guitar, actually-
> > although yesterday was a rainy day and I spent three or four hours
> > playing, working on stuff from jb's Web site.
>
> Then, the operative question is: How do you feel?
>
> :>)
Ya know, I am enjoying jb's lessons. I started studying jazz in college
(ca 1979) and am pretty good at comping and have never felt competent at
soloing. Part of that is because I've never been able to deal with
modes and when I do they just don't sound musical to me. I don't really
care for people just blowing through scales over changes. It's not
interesting and it doesn't sound like they are paying attention to what
they are playing, even though it draws oohs and aahs from others.
jb's method is much, much, much more developed than the crude ideas I've
been working with for years- although I was vaguely on the same track-
and has already filled in a bunch of gaps. So I'm feeling pretty good.
It's fun to be learning again, I haven't taken lessons in years.
kevin...@gmail.com
Soon to be a Registered Nurse (about a month away), but currently
working in a hospital as a CNA. Never a shortage of sick people, and
many of them have stories to tell that in a really weird way
indirectly impact my music. Also helps put my dumb music-related
anxieties/neuroses in proper perspective; here I am thinking about
nailing changes and there's a guy on mechanical ventilation and
continuous dialysis.
-Kevin Collins
Jens Weisse
"Lun" <nul...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1180975225....@q19g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> what are your day jobs???
I am a market research manager for a B2B software company. I enjoy work, but
I enjoy practice and gigging (with chick singer trio and Big Band) even
more. I have made the conscious choice not to work in music, as I think it
might affect my judgement and the fun I am having.
By the way, here's a previous post I have printed and put up right next to
my desk regarding the topic.
All the best to you
Jens
Gerry
> i work in a bank in training, tech writing and instructional design. I
> do quite a bit of keyboarding and it's been hell on my hands.
Generic reminder: it's not how much you type, it's how tense or relaxed
you are while you're doing it.
--
///---
Sean
Good one. You could insert any number of verbs in the place of "type"
and come up with something sensible.
play
sing
screw
write poems
do woodwork
drink whisky
etc.
Claus Rogge
> If you have to do something for money, there is a greater danger of
> coming to resent that task. This is why I never became a guitar
> teacher
It depends of course on the circumstances, but you´re doing and thinking
music all day long, you can put a lot of creativity into the job and
you´ll have a student now and then that really challenges you so that
you will make a step forward in your own playing just by having to think
about something that you have been doing all your life and communicate
it.
Of course there are those jobs with a boss who will be trying to control
what you are doing in your lessons. But the danger of getting an a***ole
chef is everywhere anyway.
I try to give the excitement about the instrument I myself am in love
with on to kids. I consider myself an awfully lucky person on behalf of
that.
> or gigolo.
hehe
--
http://cdbaby.com/cd/rogge
http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/
viewAlbum?playListId=193467678
Five Sharp
University of Applied Science.
Geez .... Can't believe I am that ...
#####
"Lun" <nul...@gmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:1180975225....@q19g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> Hey guys,
>
> what are your day jobs???
>
Des Higgins
"Five Sharp" <d.on...@chello.nl> wrote in message
news:d99da$466536e0$4df8a0fd$18...@news.chello.nl...
> You asked for it. I am a professor of Marketing Communications at a
> University of Applied Science.
>
> Geez .... Can't believe I am that ...
I am a research academic (Bioinformatics) in a university in Dublin.
tom walls
some...@sunny.calif says...
> On 2007-06-04 10:01:43 -0700, tom walls <tw...@cornell.edu> said:
>
> > In article <1180975225....@q19g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
> > nul...@gmail.com says...
> >> Hey guys,
> >>
> >> what are your day jobs???
> >>
> >> I just started work as a teacher but the only thing that i am
> >> preoccupied with is that i want to go home and practice. Can anyone
> >> offer me a job that has something to do with guitar or jazz?
> >> haha
> >>
> >> LYL
> >>
> >>
>
> Do you actually shmooze with the shuffling masses? Hell, I might stop
> by for soup, if you're actually operating as the Greeter.
>
If I'm in the cafe, I shmooze, but I'm mostly in the office conducting
important business on usenet.
--
Tom Walls
the guy at the Temple of Zeus
http://www.arts.cornell.edu/zeus/
tom walls
dazzh...@hotmail.com says...
> Bioinformatics
>
Is this a real thing? When I first began posting on usenet I used
"Master of Psychochromatics" -- a phrase I made up to flag my grasp(or
lack thereof) of harmonic theory -- as my signature. Then I began to get
emails from my peers in psychochromatics.
tom walls
@cornell.edu says...
> In article <46653840$0$306$ba62...@reader.news.heanet.ie>,
> dazzh...@hotmail.com says...
> > Bioinformatics
> >
> Is this a real thing? When I first began posting on usenet I used
> "Master of Psychochromatics" -- a phrase I made up to flag my grasp(or
> lack thereof) of harmonic theory -- as my signature. Then I began to get
> emails from my peers in psychochromatics.
>
Play any note you like. You're never more than a half step away from a
chord tone. What's the big deal?
Des Higgins
"tom walls" <tw...@cornell.edu> wrote in message
news:MPG.20cf196bf...@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu...
> In article <46653840$0$306$ba62...@reader.news.heanet.ie>,
> dazzh...@hotmail.com says...
>> Bioinformatics
>>
> Is this a real thing?
Sadly it is very real. It started out as a sort of cottage industry thing
that boffins and blokes in tweed jackets with leather patches on their
elbows did now and then. Suddenly, they announced the human genome was
going to be sequenced and there was a gold rush to try to find any
commercially important genes asap and bioinformatics was the computing that
helped do this. I do not have leather patches or indeed a tweed jacket but
I look like I do. I am a kind of grand old man of bioinformatics. The
sort of guy that people recognise from conversations their parents had in
the 80s but who no one listens to any more, not even me. The sort of guy
who remembers when times were hard but it was all jolly good fun.
> When I first began posting on usenet I used
> "Master of Psychochromatics" -- a phrase I made up to flag my grasp(or
> lack thereof) of harmonic theory -- as my signature. Then I began to get
> emails from my peers in psychochromatics.
You need to find someone to set up an endowed chair (or stool at the very
least).
Des
Jens Weisse
> In article <MPG.20cf196bf...@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu>, tw25
> @cornell.edu says...
>> In article <46653840$0$306$ba62...@reader.news.heanet.ie>,
>> dazzh...@hotmail.com says...
> By the way -- since you asked -- psychochromatic theory runs thusly:
> Play any note you like. You're never more than a half step away from a
> chord tone. What's the big deal?
never, never ever play a major 7 on a 7th dom chord or you will roast in
Jazz musician's hell.
:-)
unknownguitarplayer
>
> what are your day jobs???
>
> I just started work as a teacher but the only thing that i am
> preoccupied with is that i want to go home and practice. Can anyone
> offer me a job that has something to do with guitar or jazz?
> haha
>
> LYL
Physicist.
tom walls
says...
Kevin Van Sant
<jens.weisse.ns.@domain.com> wrote in message
<f43lpf$or9$1...@news.sap-ag.de> :
>never, never ever play a major 7 on a 7th dom chord or you will roast in
>Jazz musician's hell.
just last night I was showing a student how the maj7 can still be used
and made to sound fine over a dom7 chord. I did have to turn on
the AC when I woke up this morning, but I don't think there is any
correlation.
_________________________________________
Kevin Van Sant
http://www.kevinvansant.com
CDs, videos, mp3s, gigs, pics, lessons, info.
Mark Guest
> now--gotta get back in shape. As you know, it's as good for the head as
> it is for the body.
Only if you wear a helmet.
Jon Fox
I teach music at a community college (music theory, improv, guitar and
ensembles). I also gig as much as I can, mostly but not all jazz.
Probably more than 50% of my gigs these days are solo.
Jon
ott...@hotmail.com
Kevin Van Sant wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 14:43:25 +0200, "Jens Weisse"
> <jens.weisse.ns.@domain.com> wrote in message
> <f43lpf$or9$1...@news.sap-ag.de> :
>
> >never, never ever play a major 7 on a 7th dom chord or you will roast in
> >Jazz musician's hell.
>
> just last night I was showing a student how the maj7 can still be used
> and made to sound fine over a dom7 chord. I did have to turn on
> the AC when I woke up this morning, but I don't think there is any
> correlation.
>
Yeah, but that was a BbMaj7 over C7:-)
Bg
ott...@hotmail.com
I spent 20 Years in a steel distributor warehouse, 10 years for a
newspaper, a few failed years gigging on and off the road, and now I
just gig in what someone here termed Corporate Jazz(Tux). I'm an Old
guy tho!
Bg
Another Cleveland Guy
I'm an administrator at a metropolitan planning agency, which
distributes federal funding and reviews planning for highway and
transit construction projects. A bureaucrat, basically.
The good part is that I almost never have to work nights or weekends,
so there's time to practice and play gigs. Now if I can just keep Mark
from sucking up all the local gigs... ;-)
Jonathan
Another Cleveland Guy
> I've been doing software for the past 16 years, the last 8 at Verizon.
> I taught guitar/played weddings/club dates full time the 13 years
> previous to that; I find that I actually prefer doing software to non-
> jazz music work. I ENJOY software work, while I was constantly annoyed/
> aggravated/depressed playing Madonna tunes and teaching Metallica
> while turning down jazz gigs that would leave me unable to pay the
> bills. I like my playing more now, as well, since I can focus
> completely on the repertoire I like.
Yeah, my experience was very similar. I finally decided in my late
'30s to chuck it and start working on a degree in anything but music.
After about 20 years of playing gigs for a living, I found I was
scuffling financially for the privilege of playing music I really
didn't particularly dig for the most part. At that point I thought
that there must be something else I can take some satisfaction in that
will pay a decent salary and offer some security.
Ironically, I've been a much more serious player since I gave up being
a full-time professional musician. I now play on my own terms. And
even though the ideal performance opportunities may be scarce, I can
afford to ride out the dry spells and just keep practicing. There's
definitely something to be said for that steady paycheck thing.
RickH
> preoccupied with is that i want to go home and practice. Can anyone
> offer me a job that has something to do with guitar or jazz?
> haha
>
> LYL
About 13 years ago I started my own company writing firmware for
industrial embedded systems, data collection, sensors, robotics,
process control, etc. But I enjoy most just making stuff out of wood
out in the barn, or putzing around the house remodeling, or always
offering to help someone trim out their basement. When I retire I
will go to Luthier apprentice, I am not above sweeping someones floor
or unclogging their toilets for a few years to learn to make guitars.
Lumpy
> Hey guys,
>
> what are your day jobs???
Retired Tidy Bowl Guy.
Lumpy
--
You were the Tidy Bowl Guy?
Yes. I'm cleaning your bathroom bowl.
www.lumpyvoice.org
tomb...@jhu.edu
> "tom walls" <t...@cornell.edu> wrote in message
>
> news:MPG.20cf1ae11...@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu...
>
> > In article <MPG.20cf196bf569c80698a...@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu>, tw25
> > @cornell.edu says...
> >> In article <46653840$0$306$ba620...@reader.news.heanet.ie>,
> >> dazzhigg...@hotmail.com says...
> > By the way -- since you asked -- psychochromatic theory runs thusly:
> > Play any note you like. You're never more than a half step away from a
> > chord tone. What's the big deal?
>
> never, never ever play a major 7 on a 7th dom chord or you will roast in
> Jazz musician's hell.
Eh? Beboppers do that at least ten times in every solo. It's part of
the basic bebop lick.
Mark & Steven Bornfeld
If you think the racial history of jazz threads here are long and
histrionic, you should check out some of the helmet threads on
rec.bicycles.racing.
No, really you shouldn't.
Steve
--
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001
decapr...@hotmail.com
> preoccupied with is that i want to go home and practice. Can anyone
> offer me a job that has something to do with guitar or jazz?
> haha
>
I go through withdrawal.
-TD
zepa....@gmail.com
> Hey guys,
>
> what are your day jobs???
>
> I just started work as a teacher but the only thing that i am
> preoccupied with is that i want to go home and practice. Can anyone
> offer me a job that has something to do with guitar or jazz?
> haha
>
> LYL
I'm an Eletronic Engineer, master in Computer Science.
I work as SW Solution Architect.
I used to be a good soccer player, but I had to quit due to
problems in my knees.
JP
Chickenhead
scared to give up my seniority with the company, and in another year or so a
very measly (about $100 a month) Teamsters pension will be vested. So I'm
on-call to drive trailers full of mail around the Northwest.
I don't do it often, but driving the big rigs keeps me sane. After a couple
weeks of marketing, snotty musicians with nutty egos, brides, grooms,
corporate event planners, and worrying about whether I'm really talented
enough to be playing music for a living, a day or two driving a 53' trailer
through the mountains and desert really puts my brain back into place.
2. About 85% of my income comes from playing guitar. I could well be
living in a world of self-delusion, but it seems to be working so far. At
some point I made the decision not to let my lack of discipline and natural
talent stop me from doing it.
3. Tried software. Got a bunch of certifications. Tested service packs at
the Evil Empire in Redmond. Decided I hated it and would rather play guitar
and drive the big rigs. Just can't do software -- Showing up to smell the
new rug, stare at flourescent lighting, pound coffee and count the hours
until I can escape. Just not my thing.
"Lun" <nul...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Tim McNamara
Mark & Steven Bornfeld <bornfe...@dentaltwins.com> wrote:
> Mark Guest wrote:
> > On Jun 4, 6:50 pm, Mark & Steven Bornfeld
> > <bornfeldm...@dentaltwins.com> wrote:
> >> God, I'm a guilty former cyclist. I get maybe an hour a week
> >> now--gotta get back in shape. As you know, it's as good for the
> >> head as it is for the body.
> >
> > Only if you wear a helmet.
>
> If you think the racial history of jazz threads here are long and
> histrionic, you should check out some of the helmet threads on
> rec.bicycles.racing.
>
> No, really you shouldn't.
No, one really shouldn't. That isn't a newsgroup so much as a shark
tank. I stopped reading it years ago.
gant...@comcast.net
record part-time but the playing out became less and less often and
the recording became more and more often. When I'm not recording or
playing music I'm chasing kids around, carpooling, packing lunches,
cooking dinner, occasionally going ut on a date w/ my wife.
Gantt
Ric
> Hey guys,
>
> what are your day jobs???
>
> I just started work as a teacher but the only thing that i am
> preoccupied with is that i want to go home and practice. Can anyone
> offer me a job that has something to do with guitar or jazz?
> haha
>
> LYL
Independent consultant working in IT project management.
Also can be found composing and drumming when not playing guitar.
Keith Freeman
> Jazz musician's hell.
-Keith
Portable Changes, tips etc. at http://home.wanadoo.nl/keith.freeman/
e-mail only to keith DOT freeman AT orange DOT nl
Chickenhead
well play guitar and at least resent something I like ;-)
<tomb...@jhu.edu> wrote in message
news:1180985968.3...@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 4, 10:40 am, Lun <nulg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> what are your day jobs???
>>
>> I just started work as a teacher but the only thing that i am
>> preoccupied with is that i want to go home and practice. Can anyone
>> offer me a job that has something to do with guitar or jazz?
>> haha
>
> If you have to do something for money, there is a greater danger of
> coming to resent that task. This is why I never became a guitar
> teacher or gigolo.
>
>
Victor Henshaw
>
> what are your day jobs???
>
> I just started work as a teacher but the only thing that i am
> preoccupied with is that i want to go home and practice. Can anyone
> offer me a job that has something to do with guitar or jazz?
> haha
>
>
physician
Victor
jimmyb
>
> what are your day jobs???
>
> I just started work as a teacher but the only thing that i am
> preoccupied with is that i want to go home and practice. Can anyone
> offer me a job that has something to do with guitar or jazz?
> haha
>
> LYL
Do you know anything or have any experience editing video?
tom walls
decapr...@hotmail.com says...
Not the surgery, the guitar withdrawal.
tom walls
kuNOSPAMrts...@hotmail.com says...
> At
> some point I made the decision not to let my lack of discipline and natural
> talent stop me from doing it.
>
>
E7sus9
> Hey guys,
>
> what are your day jobs???
>
> I just started work as a teacher but the only thing that i am
> preoccupied with is that i want to go home and practice. Can anyone
> offer me a job that has something to do with guitar or jazz?
> haha
>
> LYL
Well, paid for college (think DeVry, not Harvard) by playing wedding
gigs and teaching. Teaching was okay, wedding gigs were amusing, but
not what I wanted to do for the rest of my life. I didn't want to go
into teaching full time, or make it a standard elementary or high
school teaching job, so I got a tech degree and am a tech support guy
for medical equipment. I like the work, pay, benefits and such of a
"standard" job. Yes it's easier to do it this way, and it does provide
a better income for me and the family, and I wouldn't have it any
other way. I love playing, but now as others have said, I can play
what I want. Which makes it a whole lot more enjoyable. Playing for a
living is probably not a good description. You probably play 25% of
the time and the other 75% your hustleing jobs and promoting yourself.
There's nothing wrong with that, but it's the need to constantly
hustle for your jobs that makes it real hard to do that full time. My
hat is off to those that can do it.
As George Carlin said at one of his recent appearances "I'm out here
tonight for me, the audience is out here tonight for me, so nobody is
here for the audience, so I get to do whatever the @#$%! I want too".
That's what's nice about not HAVING to play for your meal ticket.
I still have to get out and play solo guitar gigs though. Doing solo
guitar work is fun, but I need to just jump in and get some jobs
already.
Ron
E7sus9
> Hey guys,
>
> what are your day jobs???
>
> I just started work as a teacher but the only thing that i am
> preoccupied with is that i want to go home and practice. Can anyone
> offer me a job that has something to do with guitar or jazz?
> haha
>
> LYL
Hmmm there appears to be a link with playing guitar and riding bikes.
I too like to ride, I think my family of 4 has 9 bikes in the garage
right now. It ranges from good road bikes to a unicycle (you know, for
those occasional circus gigs!!).
Now if we can just figure out a safe way to do both at the same time
maybe that circus gig will really pay off!!!
RickH
I used to ride unicycle and juggle in high school, it didn't get me
any chicks though, still a nerd.
Mark Guest
wrote:
> 2. About 85% of my income comes from playing guitar. I could well be
> living in a world of self-delusion, but it seems to be working so far. At
> some point I made the decision not to let my lack of discipline and natural
> talent stop me from doing it.
Hah! I'm right there with you...Until Katrina wiped out my home/office
I arranged financing for school districts. I still do a little when
begged, but I am getting by playing jazz. No students, no commercial
music. It helps that I have a supportive wife. I also spend about half
of each day working on/around the house. Keeps the wife happy, and
makes for a reasonably equitable arrangement.
Oh, and I haunt usenet...
Best,
Mark Guest
rpguitar
> new rug, stare at flourescent lighting, pound coffee and count the hours
> until I can escape. Just not my thing.
Cool! You described my life. What a coincidence!
Been working in IT for almost 20 years... decent way to make a living,
but I count the hours until I can escape 5 days a week. It does start
to seem like a lot of one's life draining away... (about 4.5 hours
left for the day!) <sigh>
Rogerr
cl...@claymoore.com
> Hmmm there appears to be a link with playing guitar and riding bikes.
> I too like to ride, I think my family of 4 has 9 bikes in the garage
> right now. It ranges from good road bikes to a unicycle (you know, for
> those occasional circus gigs!!).
> Now if we can just figure out a safe way to do both at the same time
> maybe that circus gig will really pay off!!!
I didn't own a street legal car until I was in my 30s and I didn't a
lot of transport on a bike, which I'm looking into again as the price
of gas is so high. In my early 20s I also did some bike touring,
mostly on the East Coast.
Clay Moore
http://www.claymoore.com
aaronm...@gmail.com
Teaching Metallica (or in my case, country tunes and Green Day) is
kind of lame-but why not go for teaching at a university? I'm
surprised only one person mentioned that. I hope to do this some day
(after completing a M.M.). I'm currently a commodities broker. Or
rather, I sell on behalf of commodities brokers here. The money is
decent, but I occasionally wonder if teaching Green Day wouldn't be
more rewarding than working in a cube.
rpguitar
> decent, but I occasionally wonder if...
I snipped your post to focus on this part. Changing one's life is not
easy, especially when one has a family to support. I have a wife and
three kids under the age of 9. They all have a bedroom of their own,
and the ability to pursue activities and educational opportunities
that interest them (or that their parents dictate!). You can't just
say, eh, I'm tired of this job, time to find another that's more
satisfying but pays less. As a traditional breadwinner, I suck up the
sacrifice rather than impose it on everyone else.
At least there is the freedom to play what I want and the resources to
indulge my interests, which is something to be thankful for. All is
far from gloomy. But like many things in life, some days the glass is
half full, sometimes half empty.
Roger
RickH
At some point the wife will say "just quit already" and you will,
thats what mine did at least, I felt obligated and comfy but not
elated, changing jobs is generally always a good thing once one is
willing to do that. Fortunately IT is still in demand and has
transferable skills, that a lateral move is easy for things like
shorter commute, nicer people, more vacation, etc.