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Sam Smiley

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Sep 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/26/00
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I'm seriously getting into Bill Evans right now. I'm a guitarist and I want
to try to adapt his concepts both to the guitar and to a guitar trio. So I
was wondering if anyone knew of this being done, or if they have
suggestions. I'd like any interviews, transcription, comentaries, whatever
that you guys know of online. Thanks a lot for any help.

Peter Bettess

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Sep 27, 2000, 2:45:59 AM9/27/00
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John McLaughlin did this on his 1993 cd called time remembered

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Tom Lippincott

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>I'm seriously getting into Bill Evans right now. I'm a guitarist and I want
>to try to adapt his concepts both to the guitar and to a guitar trio. So I
>was wondering if anyone knew of this being done, or if they have
>suggestions. I'd like any interviews, transcription, comentaries, whatever
>that you guys know of online. Thanks a lot for any help.
>

I'm a pretty die hard Bill Evans fan. I've transcribed several of his tunes
and solos, and have checked out a lot of the commerically available
transcriptions. Obviously, some of his stuff is unplayable on guitar, but with
a little creativity you can go through some transcriptions and figure out how
to leave out a few notes here or there and still get the gist of things. I may
put some "Bill Evans for guitar" stuff up on my website eventually, so try
checking there at some point. I don't know of any specific Bill Evans stuff
online, but I'd recommend checking out the playing of Lenny Breau to hear the
application of a lot of Evans' stuff to the guitar. I also have a solo guitar
"medley" of Remembering the Rain/Make Someone Happy called "Tribute to Bill
Evans" which should be up as a real audio file within the next couple of weeks.

Tom Lippincott
Guitarist, Composer, Teacher
audio samples, articles, CD's at:
http://www.tomlippincott.com

Eddie S. Lastra

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Sep 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/27/00
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I like Royce Campbell's arrangement of Evans' Waltz for Debby on his Royce
Campbell with Strings CD.

Eddie


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MjkL

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Sam Smiley wrote in message <8qrq40$j1g$1...@news.wmich.edu>...

>I'm seriously getting into Bill Evans right now. I'm a guitarist and I
want
>to try to adapt his concepts both to the guitar and to a guitar trio. So I
>was wondering if anyone knew of this being done, or if they have
>suggestions. I'd like any interviews, transcription, comentaries, whatever
>that you guys know of online. Thanks a lot for any help.
>
>
Check out John McLaughlin's "Time Remembered" album... regarded by some as a
little too straight, but it's obviously a labour of love

Jeff Gower

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Sep 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/27/00
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In article <97005183...@igateway.postoffice.co.uk>, "MjkL"
<n...@ddress.co.uk> wrote:

> Check out John McLaughlin's "Time Remembered" album... regarded by some as a
> little too straight, but it's obviously a labour of love

It's a beautiful recording, highly recommended.

Jeff
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www.jeffgower.com

Joey Goldstein

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Sep 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/27/00
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Lorne Lofsky's album, Bill Please, is dedicated to Evans. Lorne has
found ways to incorporate many of Evans' ideas on the guitar. It's a
real nice record.

Tom Lippincott wrote:
>
> >I'm seriously getting into Bill Evans right now. I'm a guitarist and I want
> >to try to adapt his concepts both to the guitar and to a guitar trio. So I
> >was wondering if anyone knew of this being done, or if they have
> >suggestions. I'd like any interviews, transcription, comentaries, whatever
> >that you guys know of online. Thanks a lot for any help.
> >
>

> I'm a pretty die hard Bill Evans fan. I've transcribed several of his tunes
> and solos, and have checked out a lot of the commerically available
> transcriptions. Obviously, some of his stuff is unplayable on guitar, but with
> a little creativity you can go through some transcriptions and figure out how
> to leave out a few notes here or there and still get the gist of things. I may
> put some "Bill Evans for guitar" stuff up on my website eventually, so try
> checking there at some point. I don't know of any specific Bill Evans stuff
> online, but I'd recommend checking out the playing of Lenny Breau to hear the
> application of a lot of Evans' stuff to the guitar. I also have a solo guitar
> "medley" of Remembering the Rain/Make Someone Happy called "Tribute to Bill
> Evans" which should be up as a real audio file within the next couple of weeks.
>
> Tom Lippincott
> Guitarist, Composer, Teacher
> audio samples, articles, CD's at:
> http://www.tomlippincott.com

--
Regards:
Joey Goldstein
Guitarist/Jazz Recording Artist/Teacher
Home Page: http://webhome.idirect.com/~joegold
Email: <joegold AT idirect DOT com>

Victor Magnani

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Sep 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/27/00
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hey Sam,

Someone else mentioned Lorne Lofsky - he's gone farther than almost anyone IMHO
as far as adapting Bill's ideas to a guitar trio. He really goes beyond the
"nice voicings" thing to really try and approximate the approach of Bill, rather
than just mimick a few trademark ideas. (You can get both of his in-print CD's
"Bill Please" and "Lorne Lofsky" cheap form either half.com or
cybermusicsurplus.com) Also, Ed Bickert's older records are also in that line.
There's a double CD on DSM records, a small Canadian label, called the "Gutiar
Mastery of " that has one CD of trio performances with Don Thompson and Terry
Clarke (of Jim Hall Live fame) that's very much in that B.E. spirit. His duo
record with Don Thompson os Sackville(?) also shows a strong Bill influence.
And the aforementioned Jim Hall Live certainly has the group interplay aspect
that the B.E. trio forged.

Peace
Victor


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Dallas Selman

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I recently saw a book of Bill Evans transcrptions for guitar, I think Hal
Leonard or Mel Bay put it out, check their web sites....

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joefi...@my-deja.com

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In article <8qrq40$j1g$1...@news.wmich.edu>,

"Sam Smiley" <dolp...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I'm seriously getting into Bill Evans right now. I'm a guitarist and
I want
> to try to adapt his concepts both to the guitar and to a guitar trio.
So I
> was wondering if anyone knew of this being done, or if they have
> suggestions. I'd like any interviews, transcription, comentaries,
whatever
> that you guys know of online. Thanks a lot for any help.
>
>

"I Remember Bill" by Don Sebesky was released in '97 on RCA. It features
the guitar of John Pizzarelli along with Don's inimitable and
outstanding orchestration. In addition to several Evans compositions
there are standards that Bill himself favored like "Autumn Leaves" and
"I'm Getting Sentimental Over You". The disc concludes with a spoken
statement by Evans during which he discusses his approach and artistic
outlook. Larry Coryell, Tom Harrell, Joe Lovano and Toots Thielemans all
contribute great solos. Former Evans sidemen Eddie Gomez and Marty
Morell are also on hand for this incredible all-star blowout. Lyrics
prepared specifically for this recording are sung by Pizzarelli and The
New York Voices. When this one came out I listened to it constantly for
a month or so and it has become a great favorite of mine since.

The "Time Remembered" session by McLaughlin mentioned in this thread
previously is also highly recommended. The Evans compositions are here
orchestrated for a choir of guitars. The textures they achieve are very
beautiful. As a guitarist you are sure to appreciate this unusual
recording.

The playing of Fred Fried may also interest you. He seems to have a
pianistic and somewhat Evans-like approach. He plays a nylon string
guitar finger style. I have two trio CDs by him that are really special.
He is one of those independent artists that is pretty much unhearalded
but deserving of a bigger audience. ....joe


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MtthwMtchll

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Sep 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/27/00
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Lenny Breau really got into BE voicings and sensitivity - you hear it all over
his playing. Listen to Live at Bourbon Street. He also assimilated the style of
McCoy Tyner very well, too.

MtthwMtchll

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There is a Bill Evans Solo Collection for guitar book out now everywhere. It
was put together by a classical guitarist. There are are lot of altered
tunings. These transcriptions have the BE sound on guitar.

JALSRV

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Its a solo gutar book, I have it, it uses alternate tunings on the lower stings
for alot of the tunes. Its in the same series as the Howard Morgen Solo guitar
books. its by warner Bros by the way.
Jonathan

Faizal Ali

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Sep 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/27/00
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Before anyone does themselves serious injury trying to duplicate the
voicings on Lofsky's "Bill Please", they should realize that he used
overdubbing on many of the tracks to create them.

Victor Magnani

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Faizal Ali wrote:

> Before anyone does themselves serious injury trying to duplicate the
> voicings on Lofsky's "Bill Please", they should realize that he used
> overdubbing on many of the tracks to create them.

Only on the "Conversation with myself" type tunes. where it's just 2 or 3
overdubbed guitars. On the trio tunes it's just him.

Victor

Tom Lippincott

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how is it? thumbs up or down?

Sam Smiley

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What do you suggest by Lenny Breau? I've heard this before, but I dont know
what to listen to. I'm mainly looking for his stuff that I guess sounds
similar to Bill Evans.

Paul Craig Sanwald

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Jeff Gower (jgo...@gator.net) wrote:
:
: It's a beautiful recording, highly recommended.
:

The "Intro" on that record is one of my favorite moments in music right now.

--paul

Russ Hanchin

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Sep 27, 2000, 10:19:08 PM9/27/00
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Howard Alden has a CD out called "Your story - the music of Bill Evans" on
Concord Jazz. It's very good. Tunes include "Time Remembered"; "Funkallero";
"Laurie"; "Two lonely people" and "Tune for a lyric" also called "Show type
tune."

Russ

Tom Lippincott

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Sep 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/28/00
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>What do you suggest by Lenny Breau? I've heard this before, but I dont know
>what to listen to. I'm mainly looking for his stuff that I guess sounds
>similar to Bill Evans.

Well, Lenny was a major Bill Evans fan and in some ways based his whole style
on Evans'. I hear a lot of Bill Evans in most of his playing, but probably his
earlier records have more "non-Evans" influences (like country and flamenco
type stuff) whereas in his later years he gravitated more strictly to playing
standards. I'd recommend the "Live at Bourbon St." double CD (with Dave Young
on bass) for starters.

Tom Lippincott

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>
>Howard Alden has a CD out called "Your story - the music of Bill Evans" on
>Concord Jazz. It's very good. Tunes include "Time Remembered"; "Funkallero";
>"Laurie"; "Two lonely people" and "Tune for a lyric" also called "Show type

someone gave me a tape of that a while back; it's a nice recording, but not a
very good example (IMO) of a guitar player incorporating Evans' style in his
playing. Though it's all Evans compositions, Alden pretty much plays in his
typical more "traditional guitaristic" style (although I have to admit it's
been a while since I listened to it). Not to dis Howard Alden, who is a fine
player; I just don't hear very much Bill Evans in his playing (chord voicings,
phrasing, ect.) and the original poster was asking for examples of people
copping Bill Evans' style on guitar.

Jim Kangas

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For a really beautiful introspective album, I'd recommend "Cabin
Fever". Other than "Boy Wonder" and "Live at Donte's" (horrible
sound), I really enjoy every other album I have that Lenny did.

-Jim

Victor Magnani

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Tom Lippincott wrote:

> >
> >Howard Alden has a CD out called "Your story - the music of Bill Evans" on
> >Concord Jazz. It's very good. Tunes include "Time Remembered"; "Funkallero";
> >"Laurie"; "Two lonely people" and "Tune for a lyric" also called "Show type
>

> someone gave me a tape of that a while back; it's a nice recording, but not a
> very good example (IMO) of a guitar player incorporating Evans' style in his
> playing. Though it's all Evans compositions, Alden pretty much plays in his
> typical more "traditional guitaristic" style (although I have to admit it's
> been a while since I listened to it). Not to dis Howard Alden, who is a fine
> player; I just don't hear very much Bill Evans in his playing (chord voicings,
> phrasing, ect.) and the original poster was asking for examples of people
> copping Bill Evans' style on guitar.
>

I agree totally - it's a great CD but beyond the tunes doesn't really show a
strong Evans influence.
Victor

GARY BECK

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Sep 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/28/00
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It's hard to believe that no one has mentioned Ralph Towner who is to my
mind the definitive Bill Evans guitarist. Ralph is also a fantastic piano
player. Back in the 60's we taught at the same music store in Eugene Oregon.
My one and only guitar lesson I ever took in my life was from Ralph. I asked
him to show me the Evan's voicings he used, as well as the substitutions. I
learned more from Ralph in an hour than I have since. Check out his version
of "Nardis" on the ECM Solo Concert album. Not only does he sound Like
Evan's, he sounds like Evan's and Scot LaFaro at the same time. Fantastic
player, who had all this together back in the 60's

Soapy10999

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>
>I'm seriously getting into Bill Evans right now. I'm a guitarist and I want
>to try to adapt his concepts both to the guitar and to a guitar trio. So I
>was wondering if anyone knew of this being done, or if they have
>suggestions. I'd like any interviews, transcription, comentaries, whatever
>that you guys know of online. Thanks a lot for any help.

>
The Bill Evans Collection For Solo Guitar
by Greg Stone; WB pub.
is pretty cool. The voicings are real hard to adapt to guitar, but well worth
it.


Paul Craig Sanwald

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Sam Smiley (dolp...@hotmail.com) wrote:
: I'm seriously getting into Bill Evans right now. I'm a guitarist and I want

: to try to adapt his concepts both to the guitar and to a guitar trio. So I
: was wondering if anyone knew of this being done, or if they have
: suggestions. I'd like any interviews, transcription, comentaries, whatever
: that you guys know of online. Thanks a lot for any help.
:
:

Everyone has been recommending guitarists to listen to (including me!) but
this seems to me to be a good chance to come up with your own thing in
regards to Bill's style. Why not just listen to a lot of Bill and find your
own way of playing his thing on guitar? I generally find that when I really
get into an artist (in the way that you're describing), it's because of
something they do that really hits me in a certain way. Figuring what that
is out directly from the source can really help.

btw I'm going through the same thing with freddie hubbard :).
--paul

George4908

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Sep 28, 2000, 11:02:20 PM9/28/00
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Good call about Towner. He also has a lovely version of Waltz for Debbie on
"Open Letter."

Tom Lippincott

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>It's hard to believe that no one has mentioned Ralph Towner who is to my
>mind the definitive Bill Evans guitarist. Ralph is also a fantastic piano
>player. Back in the 60's we taught at the same music store in Eugene Oregon.
>My one and only guitar lesson I ever took in my life was from Ralph. I asked
>him to show me the Evan's voicings he used, as well as the substitutions. I
>learned more from Ralph in an hour than I have since. Check out his version
>of "Nardis" on the ECM Solo Concert album. Not only does he sound Like
>Evan's, he sounds like Evan's and Scot LaFaro at the same time. Fantastic
>player, who had all this together back in the 60's

that is a nice version

Tom Lippincott

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>For a really beautiful introspective album, I'd recommend "Cabin
>Fever". Other than "Boy Wonder" and "Live at Donte's" (horrible
>sound), I really enjoy every other album I have that Lenny did.
>
>-Jim

To me it's worth putting up with the bootleg sound quality to hear more "Velvet
Touch" era Lenny, though.

Thomas F Brown

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Sep 29, 2000, 9:14:42 PM9/29/00
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In article <39D4848A...@yorku.ca>,
Mark Eisenman <eise...@yorku.ca> wrote:
>Paul Craig Sanwald wrote:
>
>> I'll second that. Ed Bickert is hard to beat. I've heard some Paul Desmond
>> records with Ed that were fantastic.
>
>One of the recordings that Paul is probably referring to is, "Pure Desmond".That
>album influenced a generation of guitarists is these parts, and
>continues doing that
>today.

Ed's playing on that album has been like a bible to me since it came out.
If I could just once play a solo as great as Ed's on Just Squeeze Me...


Erin

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Oct 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/7/00
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Although I am not a musician, I am a big Bill Evans fan. I was lurking
around and this thread caught my eye. I am interested in getting Lorne
Lofskys tribute CD and Amazon doesn't have it. Does anyone know where or
how to get a copy? Thanks in advance. BTW, my favorite guitar tracks are
Jim Hall w/ Evans on "My Mans Gone Now" from the Town Hall sessions and
Mclaughlins "Time Remembered". Also, of interest to Evans fans, is the
recently released book "KInd of Blue, the Making of the Miles Davis
Masterpiece". I am reading it right now and loving it. Thanks again.
Erin


Joey Goldstein

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