Nylon strings guitars with cutaway
Karissa
I am looking for a nylon strings guitar with cutaway and pickup that has a
good acoustic tone for jazz and a narrower neck. I already have a Yamaha
APX10 but the acoustic sound of it is not very good, rather thin in fact. I
have tried a Lowden in the shop, it is very nice but at $4000, it is way
over my budget. I am looking for something under $1500. What do you people
think of Taylor, Tacoma or Takamine guitars?
Thanks in advance!!
Karissa
Mark Guest
I have owned a Takamine CP132SC for several years and find it "adequate". I
recently put TI rope wound strings on it and now I pick it up quite
frequently. It's not a great guitar, but I think it might be asking too much
to find greatness under $1500. The neck is *not* narrow on my Tak, BTW. It's
a shade over 2" at the nut.
--
Mark Guest
Mark at MarkGuest.net
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Pat Smith
Adam Gottschalk
Pat Smith <pj...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> Try this-
> http://www.wechterguitars.com/models/index.htm
I just sold a 7-string nylon with cutaway. It was a Montalvo, hand-made
in mexico. George Montalvo at Berkely Musical Instrument Exchange is the
designer and supervisor of production. His site's at
Of course, they have 6-string models as well. I highly recommend the
Montalvo guitars. Very precious, old-world build quality. Beatifully
resonant. Traditional specs on size, scale, etc. If I were to buy
another nylon, I would consider buying a Wechter, if not just because
the price is comparable and I could have the axe customized a little
more for what I want.
Michael Tueller
(in message <adam-4C3454.1...@news.fu-berlin.de>):
> Traditional specs on size, scale, etc. If I were to buy
> another nylon, I would consider buying a Wechter, if not just because
> the price is comparable and I could have the axe customized a little
> more for what I want.
Did you ever had the opportunity to play a "Marielle" model
from Wechter?
It looks like an ideal (quality) nylon string guitar for jazz.
Michael
Margaret Wilson
The acoustic tone is not as loud as a guitar with full body depth, but the
sound is well balanced and pleasing to the ear. Amplified it sounds
fantastic. I have a couple clips of this guitar recorded straight to mixer
to computer with no effects. This guitar can be had for ~$1000 BTW. You
can see pics on my web site at: http://www.msu.edu/~mewilson/gear.htm
Prior to purchasing this guitar I owned a traditional classical (with
full-width nut) as well as a Breedlove classical with 1-3/4" nut. I found
1-3/4 inches to be too narrow, as I was pulling the high E string off the
edge of the fretboard unless I really concentrated on *not* doing that.
Ultimately I sold the Breedlove, and after trying lots of "crossover"
classicals, I decided that a 1-7/8" nut was what I needed. The Carvin has a
1-7/8" nut and 20" radius, and I find I can play my classical repertoire as
well as jazz quite comfortably.
Regards,
Margaret
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Karissa
price for these guitars? However, as they are not available in my part of
the world, I have no chance to try them out.
Karissa
On 3/17/04 6:11 AM, in article
IYK5c.10917$b_4....@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com, "Pat Smith"
Karissa
<ja...@REMOVETHISMarkGuest.net> wrote:
> Hi Karissa,
>
> I have owned a Takamine CP132SC for several years and find it "adequate". I
> recently put TI rope wound strings on it and now I pick it up quite
> frequently. It's not a great guitar, but I think it might be asking too much
> to find greatness under $1500. The neck is *not* narrow on my Tak, BTW. It's
> a shade over 2" at the nut.
>
> --
> Mark Guest
> Mark at MarkGuest.net
> www.MarkGuest.net
Thanks Mark. I have heard that Takamine also has some guitars out with DSP
preamps. Have you tried any of those?
Thanks.
Karissa
Karissa
"Adam Gottschalk" <ad...@adamgottschalk.net> wrote:
It'll be nice if they have a 7 strings with cutaway and electronics.
Karissa
Pat Smith
might try to get a used Pathmaker on Ebay. Expect to pay half of list
price for a good used one, but you may find one even cheaper.
I had a Pathmaker and it was a nice guitar. I sold it because I prefer a
bit wider neck. I have a new singer cutaway model coming at the end of
this month. I will post a review when I get it. Also note there are
Pathmakers made in the USA and Asian made ones and the price is very
different
Ken Lloyd
Consider a Godin model.
They're very well made, have built-in electronics, and you can specify neck
width.
I have one that is the same neck width as my jazz guitar so moving between
them doesn't require a mental reset each time.
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Gerry
<kar...@REMOVEguitarist.st> wrote:
Many of us have the one-size-fits-all Takamine 132sc. Cedar top. I like
the tone fine as a stand-alone classic. It has built in EQ and
functions admirably with the built-in pickup. I run it through a Trace
Accoustic amp, but this is unnecessary; it seem to work just fine
through many less specific amps.
--
First they gerrymander us into one-party fiefs. Then they tell us they only
care about the swing districts. Then they complain about voter apathy.
-- Gail Collins
Dave Barton
"Gerry" <222...@spam.really.sucks> wrote in message
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> In article <BC7D8A71.5569%kar...@REMOVEguitarist.st>, Karissa
> <kar...@REMOVEguitarist.st> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am looking for a nylon strings guitar with cutaway and pickup that has
a
> > good acoustic tone for jazz and a narrower neck. I already have a
Yamaha
> > APX10 but the acoustic sound of it is not very good, rather thin in
fact. I
> > have tried a Lowden in the shop, it is very nice but at $4000, it is way
> > over my budget. I am looking for something under $1500. What do you
people
> > think of Taylor, Tacoma or Takamine guitars?
I had a Tak 132 sce (cutaway electric) It worked very well only at low
volumes. Playing with a trio (drums&bass) was not possible without the drums
coming through the guitar amp (and my drummer is pretty quiet) I also
recommend the Godin. It will not feed back, has a "compromise" neck
width,(depending on the model) and is most likely way under $1500. in the
U.S. Any live-sounding acoustic will be prone to feedback when amped. I
found the Godin to solve the problem, even though it is not an acoustic.
Dave Barton
Gerry
<bar...@kingston.net> wrote:
> I had a Tak 132 sce (cutaway electric) It worked very well only at
> low volumes.
That's the model I have but it doesn't seem to have the same open-mic
problem yours seems to have, picking up the drums and such. Maybe it
does indeed have to do with my amp.
Mark Guest
--
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Mark at MarkGuest.net
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"Karissa" <kar...@REMOVEguitarist.st> wrote in message
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Al
Sounds decent, with more clarity and articulation than the Tak, but less
complexity and bass than deeper guitars (like the Ramirez cutaway). At
first the narrow neck threw me slightly because I was used to a 2" classical
width, but after a couple of months... no problem. I don't think I could go
back to the wider neck now. The neck also has a nice arch to it, very
comfortable. If you're looking for the more traditional feel, the Ramirez
(C2WE, or something like that) is very good for somewhere around two grand.
It's the same concept as the Tak, but way more guitar. If you can handle
unconventional looks (double cutaway) and want one that plays more like an
electric archtop, check out the Wechters. Jay Wolfe (Florida) sells them..
he might be coming to a guitar show near you. Wechter also makes a
Florentine model, which is more conventional looking.
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Keith Murch
until you plugged it in. The amplified sound was so harsh that it was not
useable on a gig. I tried going direct into the p.a., as well as through a
number of different amplifiers, and I just couldn't get a decent sound out
of it. I finally just got rid of it. I would try one again with the regular
preamp, because so many people use them that they must be reliable gigging
guitars.
Keith
"Karissa" <kar...@REMOVEguitarist.st> wrote in message
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MBR
Martin makes two cutaway classicals in your price range. One is
rosewood the other mahogany. I think the tops are spruce and they have
built-in pickups and electronics. I don't know the model numbers
offhand. I played both of them and I think they are worth a look. Very
nice playing guitars; not as much volume and projection as some higher
end classicals but still very respectable instruments. I prefered the
mahogany model which is around $1100.00. The rosewood model runs
around $1500.00
-Mark R
Karissa
Wilson" <twok...@nospam.msn.com> wrote:
> I recommend my Carvin CL450, which comes equipped with a Fishman Prefix Pro.
> The acoustic tone is not as loud as a guitar with full body depth, but the
> sound is well balanced and pleasing to the ear. Amplified it sounds
> fantastic. I have a couple clips of this guitar recorded straight to mixer
> to computer with no effects. This guitar can be had for ~$1000 BTW. You
> can see pics on my web site at: http://www.msu.edu/~mewilson/gear.htm
>
> Prior to purchasing this guitar I owned a traditional classical (with
> full-width nut) as well as a Breedlove classical with 1-3/4" nut. I found
> 1-3/4 inches to be too narrow, as I was pulling the high E string off the
> edge of the fretboard unless I really concentrated on *not* doing that.
> Ultimately I sold the Breedlove, and after trying lots of "crossover"
> classicals, I decided that a 1-7/8" nut was what I needed. The Carvin has a
> 1-7/8" nut and 20" radius, and I find I can play my classical repertoire as
> well as jazz quite comfortably.
>
> Regards,
>
> Margaret
Thanks Margaret for reminding me of Carvin guitars. I'll definitely have a
look at their guitars. Yours looks interesting and I bet it sounds good
too.
Karissa
Karissa
"Ken Lloyd" <kll...@maine.com> wrote:
> Hi.
>
> Consider a Godin model.
> They're very well made, have built-in electronics, and you can specify neck
> width.
> I have one that is the same neck width as my jazz guitar so moving between
> them doesn't require a mental reset each time.
>
>
I am a big fan of Godin guitars and I already own a few of their guitars.
My ACS is very nice but I am looking for a nylon strings guitar with a
'real' body, not just a chambered one; one that I can take to the beach with
....... Just kidding, but you've got the idea.
Karissa
Karissa
<data...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> I've got a Wechter Pathmaker and it's pretty cool. Plays like butter.
> Sounds decent, with more clarity and articulation than the Tak, but less
> complexity and bass than deeper guitars (like the Ramirez cutaway). At
> first the narrow neck threw me slightly because I was used to a 2" classical
> width, but after a couple of months... no problem. I don't think I could go
> back to the wider neck now. The neck also has a nice arch to it, very
> comfortable. If you're looking for the more traditional feel, the Ramirez
> (C2WE, or something like that) is very good for somewhere around two grand.
> It's the same concept as the Tak, but way more guitar. If you can handle
> unconventional looks (double cutaway) and want one that plays more like an
> electric archtop, check out the Wechters. Jay Wolfe (Florida) sells them..
> he might be coming to a guitar show near you. Wechter also makes a
> Florentine model, which is more conventional looking.
>
Thank you for all the replies. After reading them, I found that the
Takamine 132SCE seems to have won the popularity poll. I have heard a lot
of good things about the Wechter Pathmaker. I would like to hear one as it
is not available here. Buying a guitar sight unseen is something I am not
comfortable with, but have to live with. I have tried the Ramirez at the
shop here but for me, it is very good but not exactly what I want (neck
width, tone, etc).
Thanks!
Karissa
thom_j
flicks...eh? Do you know Annette? 8^)'.. a curious tee..
"Karissa" wrote:
> one that I can take to the beach with
> Karissa
MisterCinders
of them rather dull sounding. I also tried the Takamines, Yamahas,
and severaI others. I ended up with a Wechter Elite Pathmaker which
is an absolutely extraordinary guitar.
I just that this is on ebay.
<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3711590334&category=2385>
Karissa
"MisterCinders" <rhan...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
> I played both the Martin and Taylor nylon string models and found both
> of them rather dull sounding. I also tried the Takamines, Yamahas,
> and severaI others. I ended up with a Wechter Elite Pathmaker which
> is an absolutely extraordinary guitar.
>
> I just that this is on ebay.
> <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3711590334&category=2385>
>
It seems to be a good deal, just too bad that the seller won't ship outside
the US. Also, since I have never bought anything on Ebay, I have no status
there.
Karissa
Michael Nickolas
A played a bunch a few years back and ended up with a Tacoma. It has
the Fishman pickup. I really only use if for playing unamped or studio
recording with a microphone. For live nylon playing I use a solid body
Washburn.
Michael Nickolas
www.studionineproductions.com
Ron B
Karissa,
I went through the same thing and ended up with a Godin Nylon Duet.
It's not a hollowbody guitar, but has hollow chambers in it. So it
won't work well for an accoustic only setting but is plenty loud for
practicing without an amp. I matched it with a Fender accoustisonic
amp and I can now get an excellent nylon sound amplified. The problems
I was having in the past was that of all the nylon cutaways none
sounded good when amplified. This one plays great and sounds great
with an accoustic amp. It also can be had for under a thousand
dollars. The only thing else out there that I liked was the new Taylor
NS line, the neck isn't the standard classical width, it's a bit
narrower (like the Godin) but not neither is as narrow as a regular
electric. I've been very happy with my Godin, and it is my main
guitar. Good Luck..
Ron
>
Senna fan
158b4dd.04032...@posting.google.com, "Ron B"
<theb...@excite.com> wrote:
> Karissa,
>
> I went through the same thing and ended up with a Godin Nylon Duet.
> It's not a hollowbody guitar, but has hollow chambers in it. So it
> won't work well for an accoustic only setting but is plenty loud for
> practicing without an amp. I matched it with a Fender accoustisonic
> amp and I can now get an excellent nylon sound amplified. The problems
> I was having in the past was that of all the nylon cutaways none
> sounded good when amplified. This one plays great and sounds great
> with an accoustic amp. It also can be had for under a thousand
> dollars. The only thing else out there that I liked was the new Taylor
> NS line, the neck isn't the standard classical width, it's a bit
> narrower (like the Godin) but not neither is as narrow as a regular
> electric. I've been very happy with my Godin, and it is my main
> guitar. Good Luck..
>
> Ron
>>
Ron,
I agree with you. Godin makes good guitars. I have a ACS nylon and it
sounds great amplified. However, there's something about a classical guitar
that really attracts me; I mean, one that is like a traditional classical
but with narrower neck and a cutaway.
Thanks .....
Karissa