Guitars and the Airlines
Dan Marti
Flying the not so friendly skys.. wondering how you folks recommend getting
my guitar legally past security and into the cabin under my control?
I was told to buy a seat for it...
Round Trip $ 215
As Cargo? (Yeah right ..) R/T $150
Beinga able to carry it on... Priceless
so any of you folks that can suggest a legal =) means of getting my guitar
to my Florida gig speak up! 'cause I am totaly bummed right now..
Danny
Jurupari
>my guitar legally past security and into the cabin under my control?
disguise it as a box cutter.
Dan Marti
do you want me to tell every one how we showed up for the gig and your chevy
decided we should just leave the gear in the trunk?..... =)
How ya doin brother?
It;s been a while..
Jeff now has two kids and me, just tryin to get on board with my axe
Danny Marti
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Tony DeCaprio
ever. You can still play roulette, because they are SUPPOSED to accept
it. If you bring it in a gig bag and they refuse you, I strongly
suggest that you nix the flight. If you travel a lot with your axe,
you may want to purchase an Anvil case. You can buy a seat for the
instrument(usually half fare), but as far as security goes, I see no
difference in allowing it as a carry on. We are not terrorists. We are
just guitarists. It must be the "ists."
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George Prager
check in without saying a word about it. Once I show up at the gate, it's
usually too late to send me back (luggage has been checked etc...) and
either they let it go without an argument or they relent after a few words.
Once in the cabin, I have found most attendants helpful in helping me stow
it and find a safe spot for it. Only once did I allow an Epi Joe Pass travel
in the hold. The guitar was never the same afterwards - inexplicable
rattles, intonation problems - had to sell it. Would never allow it again;
guitar goes where I go
George
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Myth
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Only once did I allow an Epi Joe Pass travel
> in the hold. The guitar was never the same afterwards - inexplicable
> rattles, intonation problems - had to sell it.
Oh, nice, to whom?
Kevin Van Sant
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>Only once did I allow an Epi Joe Pass travel
>> in the hold. The guitar was never the same afterwards - inexplicable
>> rattles, intonation problems - had to sell it.
>
>Oh, nice, to whom?
LOL, I was thinking the same thing :)
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wrote:
>Hi folks,
>
>
>Flying the not so friendly skys.. wondering how you folks recommend getting
>my guitar legally past security and into the cabin under my control?
Dan:
What type of guitar is it? The size of the instrument/case has a lot
to do with whether it will in the overheads, as does the type of plane
that it is.
I have flown many times with guitar(s) and have only been refused to
carry it on once, and that was pre-9/11. The time that happened, I
gate checked it, which means that someone at the gate took it and it
was given back to me at the arriving gate. This is also how the
airlines handle baby strollers.
Here's what to do: Don't discuss it with anyone at the airport.
Don't ask permission (it will be denied). Don't let the gate people
see your guitar while you are waiting. It is the person at the gate
who takes your ticket that is the most likely source of problems.
Get a strap that allows the guitar to hang vertically behind your
body. The guitar then looks like a laptop or something. Here's a
picture of what I mean:
http://timberens.com/essays/miscellaneoustips.htm
Then approach the gate with the same sort of bored look that you see
on the faces of the salesmen around -- the ones who have flown 2
million miles in the past year. Be friendly with the person checking
tickets. Most likely, nothing at all will happen and you'll walk
right on to the plane.
If they question you at all, just tell them you have flown with your
guitar many times before and you know your guitar will fit into the
overheads. Once you are on the plane, the flight crew will probably
not cause a stink.
A couple of caveats: if you are flying a commuter plane, you will not
be able to carry it on. Those overheads are tiny. You will have to
give it up at the gate and get it back later. It will be ok, though,
as long as it is in a hard shell case. Also, if you're flying with a
large bodied archtop in a hard shell case, it might not fit in the
over heads.
The bottom line is that flying sucks. But it does beat walking.
Tim
http://timberens.com
A Website for Guitarists
Learn something...Have some fun
timb at erinet dot com
Gerry
<gtrvox...@canoemail.com> wrote:
> I usually sling it over my shoulder in a gig bag, walk up to the counter and
> check in without saying a word about it.
Though I currently am toting a very small guitar (parlor) with
hard-shell, I'll be getting a gig bag as instructed by at least one
airline complainant. The rest have just groused without suggestions.
Not one has blocked me or done more than whine.
You'd think at this distance from 9/11 they'd have about played out
their psychosis regarding guitars-as-WMD. As too-large items, I'm
still seeing folks dragging own objects as large as chair to cram in
the overhead, so that doesn't wash.
> Once I show up at the gate, it's
> usually too late to send me back (luggage has been checked etc...) and
> either they let it go without an argument or they relent after a few words.
I've noted from one 30-minute take off delay, that when Suzy didn't
show up we had to find her bags and get them off the plane. This,
apparently a new element in the "safety" drill. For this reason my
approach is to check at least one bag as well as taking the gig-bagged
guitar on board. Thus if they try to ditch me, they'll have to hold up
the flight to find my bag. Just some minor insurance.
> Once in the cabin, I have found most attendants helpful in helping me stow
> it and find a safe spot for it. Only once did I allow an Epi Joe Pass travel
> in the hold. The guitar was never the same afterwards - inexplicable
> rattles, intonation problems - had to sell it. Would never allow it again;
> guitar goes where I go.
The only time I ever checked a bag, this year, it was dropped, in hard
shell case, so far/hard that it drove the guitar-strop pin into the
body. in the process this didn't damage the exterior of the case--which
is apparently key in getting replacement funds. So if they damage the
a guitar in this way I'd suggest damaging the case appropriately before
presenting your claim. Southwest replaced my guitar, but they were
probably less resistent because it was inexpensive ($180).
--
///--- Vote for the richest Republican. He understand the common man.
George Prager
actually, I spent about $300 fixing the guitar and got it to a point where
the rattle was gone. Still, I just lost any desire to play it. Sold it to a
good friend of mine (hobby guitarist) and I did not withhold relevant info
;-) Now dig this: the guitar was stolen from his basement within a few days
after he purchased it from me. He went upstairs to get a coffee and when he
came back down someone had broken in through the basement entrance and
stolen the Epi - they took nothing else. I guess the guitar had some sort of
a hex on it!
George
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Jurupari
>decided we should just leave the gear in the trunk?..... =)
>
Hi, Danny - I think we did before - hope things are well back east.
>Jeff now has two kids and me, just tryin to get on board with my axe
wow! little barristers runnin around the estate - tell him I said hi!
For your solution, back in the old days, I could take my Les Paul on board and
since the case was thin, they'd stash it upright with the garment bags up
front.
The first time I flew it, I didn't do that, and they did damage the headstock
some way and wouldn't honor the claim.
For today, Tim's solution looked to be about the best. I have a Levy case
that's good for that, but there may be better ones.
Note that in the photo it was a neutral gray and looked business like. The
southwestern or tweed skins might not be advisable. So be sneaky! :o)
Always good to see you here!
Clif
Mitch Seidman
Hi Danny,
From my experience I rely on the strong possibility that I won't be
able to bring my guitar on board. Occasionally you can, but just don't
count on it. So I try not to travel with an irreplaceable and beloved
instrument if possible, and use a Calton case. It's pretty
flight-worthy and is made for an 18" guitar, so it can hold anything
inside.
Mitch
Willie K.Yee, M.D.
that you can carry with you that says that musical insturments are
allowed on airplanes. Sometimes it can make a difference when the
security and cabin folks don't know what they are doing. The letter
has not REAl authority in the end, since the airline can decide it
does not want musical instruments, even though the feds permit it.
Let me know and I will email you a copy, unless somebody knows where
it is posted.
On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 00:43:56 GMT, "Dan Marti" <bron...@comcast.net>
wrote:
>Hi folks,
Willie K. Yee, M.D. http://users.bestweb.net/~wkyee
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Miguel Marcos
http://www.local1000.com/pdf/carryon.pdf
The letter is a direct result of footwork on the part of the AFM, so
they should be acknowledged. Those who use the letter may think of
supporting it, if appropriate.
Miguel
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