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Bart

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Jul 6, 2011, 8:47:48 AM7/6/11
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David J. Littleboy

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Jul 6, 2011, 9:17:25 AM7/6/11
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"Bart" <Ba...@BartStringham.com> wrote:

> http://www.youtube.com/user/RareJazzVideos#p/u/3/P1fGJ06koK0

More a matter of Wes getting lectured by the interviewer. Sheesh, he managed
to get about 3 words in the whole interview. So who is "Nelson Simon"???

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Lord Valve

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Jul 6, 2011, 9:18:46 AM7/6/11
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Bart wrote:

> http://www.youtube.com/user/RareJazzVideos#p/u/3/P1fGJ06koK0

I'm watching this right now.

Wes mentions a young cat (at the time) in Canada
named "Nelson Simon" as being a killer guitarist.
I can't find anything on him. Anybody?

Lord Valve
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Tim McNamara

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Jul 6, 2011, 9:54:14 AM7/6/11
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In article <i6ednex95Nrl_YnT...@giganews.com>,

"David J. Littleboy" <dav...@gol.com> wrote:

> "Bart" <Ba...@BartStringham.com> wrote:
>
> > http://www.youtube.com/user/RareJazzVideos#p/u/3/P1fGJ06koK0
>
> More a matter of Wes getting lectured by the interviewer. Sheesh, he
> managed to get about 3 words in the whole interview. So who is
> "Nelson Simon"???

Jazz critics seem to enjoy lecturing the musicians they interview. In
this case the interviewer is mainly showing how well connected he was,
how cool he was, and how hip he is to be ahead of the curve. This is
pretty typical for critics in general, IMHO.

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Bart

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Jul 6, 2011, 10:29:21 AM7/6/11
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Here is a video of Nelson Symonds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hJCW2-SZoE

ben

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Jul 6, 2011, 10:39:01 AM7/6/11
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On Jul 6, 9:54 am, Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net> wrote:
> In article <i6ednex95Nrl_YnTnZ2dnVY3go6dn...@giganews.com>,
>  "David J. Littleboy" <davi...@gol.com> wrote:

>
> > "Bart" <B...@BartStringham.com> wrote:
>
> > >http://www.youtube.com/user/RareJazzVideos#p/u/3/P1fGJ06koK0
>
> > More a matter of Wes getting lectured by the interviewer. Sheesh, he
> > managed to get about 3 words in the whole interview. So who is
> > "Nelson Simon"???
>
> Jazz critics seem to enjoy lecturing the musicians they interview.  In
> this case the interviewer is mainly showing how well connected he was,
> how cool he was, and how hip he is to be ahead of the curve.  This is
> pretty typical for critics in general, IMHO.
>
> --
> Just a box of rain, I don't know who put it there
> Believe it if you need it or leave it if you dare

Nelson Symonds is the guitarist he mentioned. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Symonds

Lord Valve

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Jul 6, 2011, 11:08:29 AM7/6/11
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Bart wrote:

> Here is a video of Nelson Symonds
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hJCW2-SZoE

Man, that sax player is annoying. Perhaps we
can give him the benefit of the doubt, since the
sun was out. As far as Symonds goes, well...
he doesn't suck, but I thought the stuff he played
while he was laying back under the bass solo
was the best part of the tune for him.

This one:

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-rcLJowHa4&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL>

...is better, if you ask me. Aside from the frenetic
saxophonist, that is. I like that drummer, though. Nothing
wrong with that quartet that a Hammond organ wouldn't
fix. ;-) At least it was properly dark outside for this take.

Lord Valve
Organist

Joey Goldstein

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Jul 6, 2011, 11:25:46 AM7/6/11
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Nelson Symonds.
There's a few clips on Youtube.

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slimguit sixstringer

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Jul 6, 2011, 12:28:12 PM7/6/11
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On Jul 6, 8:47 am, Bart <B...@BartStringham.com> wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/user/RareJazzVideos#p/u/3/P1fGJ06koK0

Nelson Symonds was sadly past his prime before he ever recorded and
the videos are from even later than his few recordings. Nelson and his
cousin, guitarist Ivan Symonds were both very active in Montreal in
the 60's[perhaps late 50's I'm not sure on this]. Nelson was with
Brother Jack MacDuff but got deported for lack of work visa and was
replaced by George Benson who says he listened to reel to reel tapes
of the band to learn the parts and speaks very highly of Nelson's
playing back then in the early and mid 60's. I'm glad this
video of Wes came out as Nelson was humble to a fault but some of the
guys from his generation used to tell us about his friendship with
Coltrane and Wes and here's Wes saying so. For those of us who knew
and loved Nelson and remember him in his prime, the Youtube videos are
not at all representative of his talent and skill. Alcohol was also
involved in the late period.

ben

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Jul 6, 2011, 1:25:40 PM7/6/11
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On Jul 6, 12:28 pm, slimguit sixstringer

There was this documentary about Nelson Symonds, from the 80's. Maybe
it has some better footage, but I don't know where to find it.
http://www3.sympatico.ca/medavis/Eng_B08.htm

Bg

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Jul 6, 2011, 1:55:48 PM7/6/11
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> Wes mentions a young cat (at the time) in Canada
> named "Nelson Simon" as being a killer guitarist.
> I can't find anything on him.  Anybody?
>
> Lord Valve
> Organist

Wow, I'm surprised that there are already replies by those who know of
Nelson, it seems pretty well covered here.
Greg Clayton might pipe in here, he's still in Montreal and would know
more about Nelson for sure.
By the way I can't believe Wes's playing on the Vid, especially after
having played that tune thousands of times, he still came up with
fresh stuff.

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Kevin Van Sant

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Jul 6, 2011, 1:57:47 PM7/6/11
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On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 09:28:12 -0700 (PDT), slimguit sixstringer
<slimgitsi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I see he has one record as a leader from '92. How is it?


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Jul 6, 2011, 2:18:15 PM7/6/11
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On Jul 6, 9:28 am, slimguit sixstringer <slimgitsixstrin...@gmail.com>
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Sonny Greeenwich is another Montreal Guitarist influenced by Coltrane
who preferred to stay Local.
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slimguit sixstringer

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Jul 6, 2011, 3:06:01 PM7/6/11
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> Bg Wrote

Greg Clayton might pipe in here, he's still in Montreal and would know
more about Nelson for sure.

Bill, I posted as Slimguitsixstringer [I should use "used to be
slim"] There are several "Greg's" in this NG so I usually just use
Dwabeslim or Slimguitsixstringer
sense any wishful thinking there?
Greg
PS I just got the thunderbolt ! Guitar used to be Slim

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Jul 6, 2011, 4:46:43 PM7/6/11
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> Sonny Greeenwich is another Montreal Guitarist influenced by Coltrane
> who preferred to stay Local.
> Bg- Hide quoted text -
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A bit of Sonny here.
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldBkIh4EPGI&feature=related>

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Jul 6, 2011, 4:48:12 PM7/6/11
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On Jul 6, 12:06 pm, slimguit sixstringer

Heh, No comments on the slim stuff, and super 400's are for sure not
slim :-)

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slimguit sixstringer

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Jul 6, 2011, 5:21:28 PM7/6/11
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On Jul 6, 1:57 pm, Kevin Van Sant <kvans...@pobox.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 09:28:12 -0700 (PDT), slimguit sixstringer<slimgitsixstrin...@gmail.com>  wrote in message
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> <7acf573b-39e5-47d2-a824-5541c9e2d...@d1g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> :

Kevin, I've still not heard it At Ivan's funeral Nelson told me
He wasn't happy, but did learn from the project and said
"now I know how I should go about the next one"
Greg

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On Jul 6, 10:57 am, Kevin Van Sant <kvans...@pobox.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 09:28:12 -0700 (PDT), slimguit sixstringer<slimgitsixstrin...@gmail.com>  wrote in message
>
> <7acf573b-39e5-47d2-a824-5541c9e2d...@d1g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> :
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Jul 6, 8:47 am, Bart <B...@BartStringham.com> wrote:
> >>http://www.youtube.com/user/RareJazzVideos#p/u/3/P1fGJ06koK0
>
> >Nelson Symonds was sadly past his prime before he ever recorded and
> >the videos are from even later than his few recordings. Nelson and his
> >cousin, guitarist Ivan Symonds were both very active in Montreal in
> >the 60's[perhaps late 50's  I'm not sure on this].     Nelson was with
> >Brother Jack MacDuff but got deported for lack of work visa and was
> >replaced by George Benson who says he listened to reel to reel tapes
> >of the band to learn the parts and speaks very highly of Nelson's
> >playing back then in the early and mid 60's.        I'm glad this
> >video of Wes came out as Nelson was humble to a fault but some of the
> >guys from his generation used to tell us about his friendship with
> >Coltrane and Wes and here's Wes saying so.   For those of us who knew
> >and loved Nelson and remember him in his prime, the Youtube videos are
> >not at all representative of his talent and skill.    Alcohol was also
> >involved in the late period.
>
> I see he has one record as a leader from '92.  How is it?
>
> ________________________________________
> Kevin Van Sant
>
> http://www.kevinvansant.com
> info, music, videos, etc...- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

You can probably have a listen here
<http://grooveshark.com/#/album/Getting+Personal/6157004>
Downloads
<http://easymusicdownload.com/Nelson-Symonds-Getting-
Personal_7389396.html>
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Dan Adler

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Jul 7, 2011, 7:47:39 AM7/7/11
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This conversation (including the 'Nelson' question) is a slo-mo rerun
of the same conversation on Russell Malone's facebook page...

-Dan
http://danadler.com

Jazzer

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Jul 7, 2011, 11:55:52 PM7/7/11
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On Jul 6, 9:54 am, Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net> wrote:

> Jazz critics seem to enjoy lecturing the musicians they interview.  In
> this case the interviewer is mainly showing how well connected he was,
> how cool he was, and how hip he is to be ahead of the curve.  This is
> pretty typical for critics in general, IMHO.

Right.

The whole 'interview'/show was quite depressing actually.

Here you have a golden opportunity to ask Wes almost anything you
like, and what do you do? You jabber away about nothing for most of
the interview and confuse the heck out of poor Wes.

Then when it comes time for Wes to play, (he is being interviewed by a
hip jazz cat right?) what does he play?
The current pop hit Windy!

Like, it would have been so difficult to request a jazz standard? :(

Charlie X

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Jul 8, 2011, 8:33:28 AM7/8/11
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Wes was there to promote..i would think his record company mandated he
play and promote his latest record. I doubt he or the show had much
choice in the matter.

Kevin Van Sant

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On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 14:21:28 -0700 (PDT), slimguit sixstringer
<slimgitsi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
<a2010ba6-e820-4114...@eb1g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> :

>
>Kevin, I've still not heard it At Ivan's funeral Nelson told me
>He wasn't happy, but did learn from the project and said
> "now I know how I should go about the next one"


It's on emusic so I'll probably grab it when my credits refresh.

Joe Finn

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Jul 8, 2011, 9:33:13 AM7/8/11
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"Charlie X" <diym...@excite.com> wrote in message
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Right. Back in the days when record companies had publicists they would
routinely arrange for interviews like this. Artists did plenty of these and
Wes was no exception.

His comment about Nelson Symonds was interesting though. ...joe
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Tim McNamara

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Jul 8, 2011, 10:17:21 AM7/8/11
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In article
<a70de7a7-dd00-429c...@em7g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
Jazzer <google...@yahoo.com> wrote:

I also noticed the look on Wes's face while he was playing. The joy
wasn't there. Look at some other videos of him playing standards with
that beautiful smile lighting up his face, then watch his face playing
this tune.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOm17yw__6U

Playing "Round Midnight" he looks like an artist. Playing "Windy" he
looked like a man at a desk in an office. I hadn't watched the "Round
Midnight" video in a while- jeez. What a monster. I've got all the
same notes on my guitar as Wes did but they don't sound like *that.*

Tim McNamara

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Jul 8, 2011, 10:17:42 AM7/8/11
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In article
<d5bef7f7-1a60-40c6...@m18g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>,
Charlie X <diym...@excite.com> wrote:

That's probably true.

Mark Guest

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Jul 8, 2011, 12:36:55 PM7/8/11
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On Jul 6, 2:18 pm, Bg <ottg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Sonny Greeenwich is another Montreal Guitarist influenced by Coltrane
> who preferred to stay Local.
> Bg

I heard that Miles wanted to use Sonny Greenwich after hearing him in
Toronto. Sonny was OK with the idea, but had a problem getting
permission to work in the States, so stayed behind. He was one of my
favorite guitarists in the late 60's/early 70's... such an intense
player. I always felt like my scalp had been peeled back after
listening to him play.

tom walls

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Jul 8, 2011, 1:03:27 PM7/8/11
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Is this desirable? :-)

Paul Mitchell Brown

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Jul 8, 2011, 7:06:49 PM7/8/11
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Sure, it's called a head arrangement.

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Jul 8, 2011, 7:32:15 PM7/8/11
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> I heard that Miles wanted to use Sonny Greenwich after hearing him in
> Toronto. Sonny was OK with the idea, but had a problem getting
> permission to work in the States, so stayed behind. He was one of my
> favorite guitarists in the late 60's/early 70's... such an intense
> player. I always felt like my scalp had been peeled back after
> listening to him play.

Ah, I guess that explains my early hair-loss :-(
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On Jul 8, 4:06 pm, Paul Mitchell Brown <paulmitchellbr...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Oy!
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Tom Walls

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Jul 9, 2011, 7:23:24 AM7/9/11
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Nicely played, my friend.

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