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Dick Onstenk

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Oct 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/7/00
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Hi gang,

I'd like to extend the thread on European Jazz guitarists a bit here if you
don't mind. I mentioned Jesse van Ruller earlier, the Rosenbergs, and Jan
Akkerman. Obviously these are all Dutch players.

Two Belguim players I absolutely dig are Rene Thomas and Philip Catherine.
Rene made a great classic Jazz guitar recording in 1960 "Guitar Groove" that
is outstanding and a super classic. It is one of the few albums that even
merits a 4 star review in the Penguin Guide to Jazz (LOL). One of my
favorite Jazz Guitar Cds. Rene died as early as 1974.

Philip Catherine is another great Jazz hero from Belgium. Most expressive
Jazz player with a distinct style. I guess you guys know him across the
pond? He worked with Chet Baker and Tom Harrell.

What about Scandinavian and German Jazz guitar playing? I must admit I don't
know too many from these regions.

From Britain I know Martin Taylor and Louis Stewart but I guess there must
be many more...

And let's not forget the French. Are they known in the States? Bireli
Lagrene, Philippe Petit, Christian Escoude etc? I mean, these guys are
famous over here. Any new players I should know about?

Greetings from Holland,

Dick

http://livejazzatthecrow.iuma.com

dominique poublan

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Dick Onstenk <d.on...@chello.nl> a écrit dans le message :
WmJD5.58537$Sb1.9...@nlnews00.chello.com...

> And let's not forget the French. Are they known in the States? Bireli
> Lagrene, Philippe Petit, Christian Escoude etc? I mean, these guys are
> famous over here. Any new players I should know about?

Thanx Dick for thinking of us too :-)

These are some more very interesting guys :

* From Bordeaux south west of France (just near the place I'm living in),
a great jazz-fusion guitarist : Denis GOUZIL,

* From what we call "Le Pays Basque" south west of France too, another
great guitarist : Sylvain LUC,

* Another one of world wide recognition in jazz fusion and of French origin,
he often played with Stanley Clarke: Ray GOMEZ,

* And also Jean Marie ECAY who often played with french violonist Didier
Lockwood,

* Louis WINSBERG, great soloist of a fusion band called SIXUN that's a
little bit influenced by WEATHER REPORT,

* N'GUYEN LEE who's gift is to mix influences from a lot of countries
(Viet-Nam, Morocco, Spain....)....In fact he plays "World Jazz" in a much
talented way. He often makes his Stratocaster sing like a woman from Asia,

* Regretted Dominique GAUMONT who played with Miles Davis (in "Get Up With
It" for example),

* NAWFEL young autodidact and blues guitarist (only 13) that plays awfully
well. He recorded his first album in the States,

* Paul PERSONNE, a fine fine blues guitarist and also a vocalist. He plays a
superb Gibson Les Paul and is a great soloist too.

Well, I don't remember more for the moment :-)

Dominique


TSB

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Oct 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/8/00
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Hi Dick

Holland has produced some great players and I am a fan of Jan Akkerman.
As an aside Philip Catherine replaced Jan Akkerman in Focus although to
be fair the band had by then lost their European style and began
playing a hybrid US-based jazz fusion style.

Check out a British guy called Ronny Jordan who has just been signed on
Blue Note and has released a great CD called 'A brighter day' which is
certainly worth checking out.

Also worth a listen is Martin Taylor who is rated as one of the true
European greats and Andy Summers (ex-Police guitarist) who has issued a
couple of great jazz albums featuring the music of Mingus.

Regards

Tim B


In article <WmJD5.58537$Sb1.9...@nlnews00.chello.com>,

> And let's not forget the French. Are they known in the States? Bireli
> Lagrene, Philippe Petit, Christian Escoude etc? I mean, these guys are
> famous over here. Any new players I should know about?
>

> Greetings from Holland,
>
> Dick
>
> http://livejazzatthecrow.iuma.com
>
>


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Florian Schmidt

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Oct 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/8/00
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On Sat, 07 Oct 2000 20:39:34 GMT, "dominique poublan"
<poublan....@free.fr> wrote:

>
>* N'GUYEN LEE who's gift is to mix influences from a lot of countries
>(Viet-Nam, Morocco, Spain....)....In fact he plays "World Jazz" in a much
>talented way. He often makes his Stratocaster sing like a woman from Asia,
>

shit, he just played the day before yesterday in our local jazz club
over here in germany, but i missed. man, i am an idiot...


--
Florian Schmidt
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http://mini.gt.owl.de/~floh

Micha...@msn.com

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How about Bireli Legrene!

Clay Moore

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Oct 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/8/00
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In article <8rpmf3$s2t$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, TSB <timb...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>Hi Dick
>
>Holland has produced some great players and I am a fan of Jan Akkerman.
>As an aside Philip Catherine replaced Jan Akkerman in Focus although to
>be fair the band had by then lost their European style and began
>playing a hybrid US-based jazz fusion style.
>
>Check out a British guy called Ronny Jordan who has just been signed on
>Blue Note and has released a great CD called 'A brighter day' which is
>certainly worth checking out.
>
>Also worth a listen is Martin Taylor who is rated as one of the true
>European greats and Andy Summers (ex-Police guitarist) who has issued a
>couple of great jazz albums featuring the music of Mingus.

Two great Scottish players are Jim Mullen, who has been based in London for
many years, and Kevin MacKenzie of Edinburgh. My experience has been that
everywhere I've gone I've met and heard great musicians. You just never know.
I was talking about this with Roscoe Beck one time, and he said the best
guitarist he ever heard was in Argentina, playing in a local bar. He was on
tour with Robben Ford, and they sat there amazed at this guy until they
finally could take no more and had to go. Keep in mind that aside from playing
with Robben, Roscoe is a veteran of the LA studios and has worked off and on
with Eric Johnson for 25 years, so the accolade "the best I ever heard" was
not something I would take lightly.

Clay Moore --
jazz guitarist
cl...@claymoore.com
http://www.claymoore.com/

To find out where I'm performing each week, sign up on my mailing list. Send a blank e-mail to cmgigs-s...@topica.com


fpl

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Oct 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/8/00
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Clay Moore wrote:
> Two great Scottish players are Jim Mullen, who has been based in London for
> many years, and Kevin MacKenzie of Edinburgh.
----snip----
I bought his latest album 'JimJam' about 3 months ago on the strength of
1 track which I heard on a Radio Scotland show called 'BeBop to HipHop'.

[oddly enough 'BeBop to....' is about to start in 20 mins]

I have to say I was disappointed with the album, most of it sounded the
same and was very bland. Hopefully a brief trough..to be followed by
more good stuff soon.

Kevin Mackenzie on the other hand is now in a band called 'Trio AAB'. A
friend of mine saw them earlier in the year at a cafe in Aberdeen and
said they were fantastic.

Of course we've also adopted Martin Taylor. He might have been born in
England, but he's North o' the Border now !

There's also some good jazz venues in Glasgow, Edinburgh and Aberdeen to
see these people at.

I recommend you folks get yourself to Scotland asap.

Tartan Jazz is alive and jigging!

fpl.

Thomas F Brown

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Oct 8, 2000, 8:53:38 PM10/8/00
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There's a Danish cat named Pierre Doerge who is a fine guitarist
and arranger/composer. His guitar style crosses American jazz with
African guitar sounds. His big band writing has the same linkages, sort
of Ellington meets Art Ensemble of Chicago with an African juju pop
band added in. It's very unusual. I recommend his album "Brikama",
by Pierre Doerge and the New Jungle Orchestra. The notable avante-garde
saxist John Tchicai plays on it too.


mindspring.com

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Oct 8, 2000, 10:46:11 PM10/8/00
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I caught Pierre Doerge and the New Jungle Orchestra in Seattle a few
months ago, they are excellent live. Covered a lot of territory
stylistically and did it all very well. Another good recording of
theirs is "Even The Moon Is Dancing".

Paul kirk

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Oct 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/10/00
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I dont know if his name appeared in this thread yet, but yesterday I heard
an interesting german guitar player called Uwe Kropinski do a clinic with
the bass player David Friesen. The played a few tunes together and then did
a few solo tunes. He was playing a nylon string modified classical guitar
with a 36 frets (!) so that he could get three octaves on the high E-string,
mostly using classical techniques but ocasionally using a pick. His playing
is very interesting, very "out" melodically, harmonically, and
rhythmically. Although a good deal of the music was improvised, I can't say
his playing comes out of the mainstream. It seems his background is in
classical, rock, and avant garde. During one tune he did something that
blew me away. hitting the guitar in various places (side, different parts of
the top, strings, etc) and tapping his foot on what apeared to be a bunch of
seashells strubng together, he slowly migrated from solo guitar to a cool
and convincing "percussion" solo. after a few minutes, he bit by bit
incorporated notes until he was back to playing the strings.

The nylon-stringers here would probably like to listen to him, although I
dont knw if that is his main instrument.

as an aside, one student asked him (the old question) what to do to be able
to play faster. he gave a slightly different answer than I've heard before.
he said
the key was to think of playing slowly as playing fast, but with long breaks
between notes, so that to play fast, just make the breaks shorter. So he was
advocating practicing by playing a line first in slow tempo, but moving the
pick (or fingers) very quickly across the string, then waiting, then moving
it quickly across the string for the next note, etc. now speed up the tempo
by just reducing the break time.

Aparently Friesen and Kropinski are touring the US doing a bunch of clinics
sponsored by Thomastik strings. I dont know about their schedule.

Paul Kirk

Don and Nan Mitchell

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Oct 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/10/00
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Kropinski and John Stowell have a duo CD out entitle, "Picture in Black and
White" (some of you might know this tune by its alternate title "Zingaro",
written by Jobim). Nice. Very different. Kropinski, for not being a
purely classical player, has one of the best tremolo techniques I have ever
heard.

Don
Portland, OR
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Vilppu Huomo

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Oct 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/11/00
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Check out Raoul Björkenheim, if you can find records from him. He mainly
plays free jazz, and is VERY good. Every time I have seen him live his
playing has just knocked me off.

Jesse van Ruller

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Oct 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/11/00
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Thanks Dick, for promoting me so much in this newsgroup! I thought of Karl
Ratzer from Austria and John Schroder from Germany. Karl Ratzer is somewhere
between 50 and 60 I guess, and probably some people know about him in this
group. John Schroder is a fantastic young player, the first time I heard him
was on a Chet Baker recording called 'the last concert'. It's with a full
Orchestra (NDR orchestra) and John is plays some incredible solo's on it.
What he plays on 'In your own sweet way' is absolutely fantastic. And of
course let's not forget about Jean toots Thielemans! Belgium's pride. Most
people know him as a harmonica-player, but he actually started with playing
guitar with the George Shearing trio i believe.
Jesse

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jwra...@aol.com

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Oct 18, 2000, 9:40:52 PM10/18/00
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In article <8s2lv1$69r$1...@spectra.a2000.nl>,
> > don't forget Jukka Tollenen (spelling might not be right) of
Finland. He was quite a player in the 70's.

RobinsonCHAZZ

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Oct 18, 2000, 11:29:17 PM10/18/00
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<< "Dick
Onstenk"
> <d.on...@chello.nl> wrote


<< Any new players I should know about? >>

When I was in Paris 4yrs. ago I heard a guitarist at a club called "Les Ducs
des Lombards". He was working with Anthony Di Battista and Palle Danielson. He
played a solid body Chet Atkins nylon string and was one of the most original
players that I have heard in years
but I only caught his last name which I think was Veras but I'm not certain
about that. He appeared to be in his early twenties. Since my return I have not
been able to get any information about this player. It is possible that I have
the name wrong but it seems like someone over there would have some information
on a young dark haired kid who is playing classical fingerstyle with players of
the stature of those mentioned previously. CR

Henkie

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Oct 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/22/00
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What about Eef Albers (NL)?

Laurens

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RobinsonCHAZZ

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Oct 22, 2000, 8:18:07 PM10/22/00
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<<
What about Eef Albers (NL)?

Laurens
Does he fit the profile that I mentioned?

morris bailey

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Jun 17, 2023, 7:11:19 AM6/17/23
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this article was so useful. thankx to you all. any other guitarist info would be useful.

gtr

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Jun 18, 2023, 2:16:00 AM6/18/23
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On Jun 17, 2023 at 4:11:17 AM PDT, "morris bailey" <super...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Sunday, October 22, 2000 at 8:18:07 PM UTC-4, RobinsonCHAZZ wrote:
>> <<> What about Eef Albers (NL)?
>> Laurens
>> Does he fit the profile that I mentioned?
>> "RobinsonCHAZZ" <robins...@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:20001018232917...@ng-cj1.aol.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> << "Dick> Onstenk"
>>>> <d.on...@chello.nl> wrote
>>>
>>>
>>> << Any new players I should know about? >>
>>> When I was in Paris 4yrs. ago I heard a guitarist at a club called "Les Ducs
>>> des Lombards". He was working with Anthony Di Battista and Palle Danielson.
>>> He played a solid body Chet Atkins nylon string and was one of the most
>>> originalplayers that I have heard in years
>>> but I only caught his last name which I think was Veras but I'm not certain
>>> about that. He appeared to be in his early twenties. Since my return I have not
>>> been able to get any information about this player. It is possible that I have
>>> the name wrong but it seems like someone over there would have some
>>> information on a young dark haired kid who is playing classical fingerstyle
>>> with players of the stature of those mentioned previously. CR
>>
>>>>
> this article was so useful. thankx to you all. any other guitarist info would
> be useful.

Nelson Veras.

Grafikjam

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Jul 29, 2023, 2:35:13 AM7/29/23
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This is Nelson Veras. a great brazilian guitarist settled in france for a long time.
His last album was recorded with Jonathan Kreisberg.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeNfuO3Iusw

Franck Cassenti made a documentary on Pat Metheny at the jazz festival in Marciac (France). He arranged a meeting with Veras who was 14 at the time... They play a blues in the dressing room... Great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bFr6_8Hfkw

Grafikjam

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Jul 29, 2023, 2:41:38 AM7/29/23
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Le samedi 7 octobre 2000 à 09:00:00 UTC+2, Dick Onstenk a écrit :
> Hi gang,
> I'd like to extend the thread on European Jazz guitarists a bit here if you
> don't mind. I mentioned Jesse van Ruller earlier, the Rosenbergs, and Jan
> Akkerman. Obviously these are all Dutch players.
> Two Belguim players I absolutely dig are Rene Thomas and Philip Catherine.
> Rene made a great classic Jazz guitar recording in 1960 "Guitar Groove" that
> is outstanding and a super classic. It is one of the few albums that even
> merits a 4 star review in the Penguin Guide to Jazz (LOL). One of my
> favorite Jazz Guitar Cds. Rene died as early as 1974.
> Philip Catherine is another great Jazz hero from Belgium. Most expressive
> Jazz player with a distinct style. I guess you guys know him across the
> pond? He worked with Chet Baker and Tom Harrell.
> What about Scandinavian and German Jazz guitar playing? I must admit I don't
> know too many from these regions.
> From Britain I know Martin Taylor and Louis Stewart but I guess there must
> be many more...
> And let's not forget the French. Are they known in the States? Bireli
> Lagrene, Philippe Petit, Christian Escoude etc? I mean, these guys are
> famous over here. Any new players I should know about?
> Greetings from Holland,
> Dick
> http://livejazzatthecrow.iuma.com

In France Antoine Boyer is incredible. He plays as well jazz, gypsy jazz or classical...
In Italy Matteo Mancuso is just ouaouh ! ;-)
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