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Pt

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Jul 2, 2006, 9:50:41 AM7/2/06
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After bouncing around in go noplace bands for the last 2 years I
decided to play bass rather than guitar.
I have been playing bass off and on for over 30 years and have played
bass in bands in the past.
I don't play a bass like a guitar.
I play it like a bass.
Because of the different thought process I play only bass now.
Haven't touched a guitar in months.
Of course eventually I will go back to it but for now if I want to play
out I'm best off sticking to bass.
The hardest part for me is turning the guitar off completely and thing
just bass.
I know the intervals, chord construction, subs etc. but I don't think
along those terms when playing bass.
Bass for me is more of a position thing.
I know where the sound I want is but I don't think in terms of what
note or what interval.
I think what sound I want.
It takes considerable time for me to think groove rather than chords or
solos.
I enjoy playing bass but I miss playing guitar.
Everyone needs a bass player and guitar players are a dime a dozen.
Anybody here play bass?

Pt

thom_j.

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Jul 2, 2006, 10:40:53 AM7/2/06
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"Pt" wrote:
> Anybody here play bass?
yea.............


ott...@hotmail.com

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Jul 2, 2006, 10:56:34 AM7/2/06
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thom_j. wrote:
> "Pt" wrote:
> > Anybody here play bass?

Not any more, too hard on my Tendenitis, so I sold the Bass to avoid
being tempted.
I enjoyed it tho.
Bg

matt at unixkaiser dot com

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Jul 2, 2006, 11:39:04 AM7/2/06
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I learned the bass for the reason that most guitarists do: the best
musical situations available didn't need a guitar player but needed a
bass.

I put it aside for 20 years but picked it back up when I moved to DC
from NY so I could get into the local scene without much effort.

Tempo and time feel were (are) challenging. I had a problem where my
groove was good and relaxed but sometimes I'd pull the tempo up or down
to where I unconciously felt it would groove better. That doesn't go
over too well so I found that I could hold the tempo if I focused on it
a bit, which, I feel distracts me somewhat from the groove and from
being more creative with my lines.

The crossroads that I hit last year was that, to get any better on the
bass, I'd have to practice much more seriously and plunge myself deep
into the concept as I had with the guitar. I made the decision to
re-market myself on guitar instead.

It's working out well. I find myself making deals like: "I'll play bass
on these 2 gigs if you call me for guitar on this other one."

How does it feel to play bass on a gig with a guitar player? I can
barely stand it. :-)

Matt Trimboli

Pt

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Jul 2, 2006, 12:01:26 PM7/2/06
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matt at unixkaiser dot com wrote:
> I learned the bass for the reason that most guitarists do: the best
> musical situations available didn't need a guitar player but needed a
> bass.
>
> I put it aside for 20 years but picked it back up when I moved to DC
> from NY so I could get into the local scene without much effort.
>
> Tempo and time feel were (are) challenging. I had a problem where my
> groove was good and relaxed but sometimes I'd pull the tempo up or down
> to where I unconciously felt it would groove better. That doesn't go
> over too well so I found that I could hold the tempo if I focused on it
> a bit, which, I feel distracts me somewhat from the groove and from
> being more creative with my lines.
>
> The crossroads that I hit last year was that, to get any better on the
> bass, I'd have to practice much more seriously and plunge myself deep
> into the concept as I had with the guitar. I made the decision to
> re-market myself on guitar instead.
>
> It's working out well. I find myself making deals like: "I'll play bass
> on these 2 gigs if you call me for guitar on this other one."
>
> How does it feel to play bass on a gig with a guitar player? I can
> barely stand it. :-)
>
> Matt Trimboli


When I play bass I have to completely forget about guitar.
Playing both guitar and bass at the same gig is almost impossible for
me because I can't change my thought process that quickly.
I feel that I am a better guitar player than most people I play with
but I try to just pay attention to my role.
I often find myself telling guitar players what to play.
Gotta stop that stuff!

Pt

G

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Jul 2, 2006, 7:58:49 PM7/2/06
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Op Sun, 02 Jul 2006 06:50:41 -0700, schreef Pt:

Hi Pt,

I play bass. After playing classical guitar for 5 years, I switched to
electric when I was 16. I was very fortunate with my teacher. He was not
only a very good guitarplayer (he majored in both classical guitar and
electric guitar), but also a very good bass player. Besides playing
guitar in fusion bands he had toured with the Glenn Miller Orchestra on
double bass.

He combined my guitar lessons with the bass lessons of a beginning jazz
bassist. So first of all that was fun, playing in a trio during my
lessons, but I also got to follow the bass lessons. When I came home I
practised the bass lines on my classical guitar (I didn't have a bass).

When I was 19 I bought a bass-guitar and did a audition with a
working jazzband a few month later. I played in that band till I was 24.
(when I was 24 I stopped doing gigs for almost 15 years). And I played in
alot of other bands beside that band.

As a bass player you have always work that's a fact :) I could never
choose the bass over the guitar though. I would miss playing solo's on top
of the harmony too much. It is fun playing bass though. Being able to make
people dance by laying down a good groove.

Guido

LarryV

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Jul 2, 2006, 8:30:05 PM7/2/06
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I have a bass that I use primarily for my own recording projects. I've
been dabbling with it for years and bought it primarily to eliminate my
reliance on other bassists for recording sessions. I don't have any
difficulty going from guitar to bass vice versa. To me, it's just a
different mindset for each instrument. I can usually hear what I want
for the bassline in my head, so it's generally easy for me to get what
I'm after. These days, I have a least 3 different bassists who record
on my projects, and they're all excellent players, so my bass playing
lately has been mostly limited to laying down sketches of tunes for the
other folks to get a general idea of the groove I'm looking for.

Jack A. Zucker

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Jul 2, 2006, 8:43:27 PM7/2/06
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I've been seriously working on bass for the last 6-9 months. It's definitely
a different mindset. What kind of music are you playing?

There's a million great bassists out there. I'd just copy some grooves and
start playing along with some BIAB stuff to start off with..

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icarusi

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Jul 2, 2006, 5:56:17 PM7/2/06
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"Pt" <pea...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I enjoy playing bass but I miss playing guitar.
> Everyone needs a bass player and guitar players are a dime a dozen.
> Anybody here play bass?

My first electric guitar was bass and in the mid 60's there was a lot of
bass, probably short scale mixed high on the 45s, more like lead guitar.
'Rain' by the Beatles and a lot of Cream stuff was typical. It's that
combination of percussion, rhythm and melody which I like. Good bass like
good drums makes it sound better, but not everyone appreciates why.

icarusi
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Pt

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Jul 3, 2006, 9:24:45 AM7/3/06
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Jack A. Zucker wrote:
> I've been seriously working on bass for the last 6-9 months. It's definitely
> a different mindset. What kind of music are you playing?

Pretty much hard rock and some newer pop stuff.
We plan on doing some Motown.
Jamerson and Kaye are hard acts to follow.

Pt

Pt

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Jul 3, 2006, 9:27:00 AM7/3/06
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One thing about playing bass in a band.
Nobody even knows you're there unless you screw up.

Pt

geekg...@aol.com

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Jul 3, 2006, 9:38:44 PM7/3/06
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Pt wrote:
> Anybody here play bass?


Hey Pt,
I play electric and upright. Although I've played everything from
rock, funk, bluegrass, gospel and jazz, I currently play funk and jazz
most of the time as well as some gospel at church. Occasionally, my
students give me the latest Red Hot Chili Peppers stuff (or somethingn
similar) to figure out, but other than that I'm out of the loop with
some of the newer bands.
I love locking with a good drummer. There is something magical
about being a part of a solid groove. Bass is a great instrument.
I have a nice collection of electric four and five string basses
and a 1939 Kay for my upright workhorse. Bass is one of my favorite
instruments.

--Eric Elias
for Charlie Parker transcriptions for bass and other bass instruction
material visit www.funkyfolkmusic.com

Pt

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Jul 4, 2006, 9:33:48 AM7/4/06
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matt at unixkaiser dot com wrote:
> I learned the bass for the reason that most guitarists do: the best
> musical situations available didn't need a guitar player but needed a
> bass.
>
> I put it aside for 20 years but picked it back up when I moved to DC
> from NY so I could get into the local scene without much effort.
>
> Tempo and time feel were (are) challenging. I had a problem where my
> groove was good and relaxed but sometimes I'd pull the tempo up or down
> to where I unconciously felt it would groove better. That doesn't go
> over too well so I found that I could hold the tempo if I focused on it
> a bit, which, I feel distracts me somewhat from the groove and from
> being more creative with my lines.


This is pretty much where I have been for the past few weeks.
But I'm getting to where I can put it all together and keep the groove
going at the same time.
It's like singing and playing the guitar.
Once you know the guitar parts and the vocals without thought you can
sound good.
Knowning notes/tempo and keeping a groove are two different things that
you have to put together.
The groove will come once you know the notes and keep in tempo without
thought.

Pt

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