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ehha...@comcast.net

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Mar 15, 2006, 5:35:45 PM3/15/06
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I guess a lot of us are striving for just the right tone - guitars,
pickups, strings. amps, speakers, fingernails. I realized that it
would help if I could just DESCIBE what tone I was seeking, and I have
figured that out. It's the tone of a piano. At least a Steinway, but
better yet a Boesendorfer - or maybe that new piano that is being built
in Austrailia that is supposed to be even better. Oh, and the touch of
Bill Evans, Chick Corea, Kenny Barron?

For me this makes sense, since I want to be able to play like Art
Tatum.

(Slow day - too much time on my hands.)

Hack
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ott...@hotmail.com

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Mar 15, 2006, 6:19:40 PM3/15/06
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I'd settle for Jimmy Raney's tone (50's & 60's)
Great in lines and Chords,
Bg

misterwilliamc

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Mar 15, 2006, 7:03:53 PM3/15/06
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ehha...@comcast.net wrote:

> I guess a lot of us are striving for just the right tone


The PerfectTone changes with my imperfect ears and fickle (eclectic)
aesthetic(s).
Couple days ago it was fat toned down neck paf.
Today it was GretschCityBridgeJangleCharm.

Gerry

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Mar 15, 2006, 7:36:06 PM3/15/06
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On 2006-03-15 15:19:40 -0800, ott...@hotmail.com said:

> I'd settle for Jimmy Raney's tone (50's & 60's)
> Great in lines and Chords, Bg

What you said! What you said again!
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What a day this has been, what a rare mood I'm in.

googledawg

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Mar 15, 2006, 9:00:24 PM3/15/06
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Hey! I actually DISCOVERED the perfect tone! - all it takes is playing
the room for about three hours, and finding it about midnite, and then
only having one sweet hour to "play" in the jazz sandbox, perfect tone
and all - even the drummer sounds better! and the keyboard player!
and the BASS of all things! , and HEY all the girls get a little
prettier.
HA! - one time just for kicks i step on the "saturation" switch to get
that long sustainy bluesy "burn" for a tune and watching the drummer
trying to figure out "where's it coming from", like looking around the
room, wondering where "the perfect tone" comes from - (a parallel
universe), but only momentarily. May all guitarists have MORE perfect
tone times MORE. That is all...

Joe Finn

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Mar 16, 2006, 12:57:14 AM3/16/06
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<ehha...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>I guess a lot of us are striving for just the right tone - guitars,
> pickups, strings. amps, speakers, fingernails.

You can have all that just where you want it and still have bad tone. The
room itself is the biggest variable.

> I realized that it
> would help if I could just DESCIBE what tone I was seeking, and I have
> figured that out. It's the tone of a piano. At least a Steinway, but
> better yet a Boesendorfer - or maybe that new piano that is being built
> in Austrailia that is supposed to be even better.

I know what you mean. However there are people on tour with pianos and the
same piano will sound different from one night to the next. This is again
due to the room.

> Oh, and the touch of
> Bill Evans, Chick Corea, Kenny Barron?
>
> For me this makes sense, since I want to be able to play like Art
> Tatum.
>
> (Slow day - too much time on my hands.)

If you have extra time practice. ..........joe

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Shawn Strickland

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Mar 16, 2006, 2:16:08 AM3/16/06
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Speaking of Steinways I went to a college visit to a very nice
performing arts center and a German-made Steinway was in there that was
an absolutely beautiful sound. I have "arranging piano skills" and
what I played sounded amazing. It makes me want to take out a mortgage
and get one. If I had a house.

git...@t-online.de

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Mar 16, 2006, 7:40:08 AM3/16/06
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same here : i played a sunday brunch last week to an audience that was
all but totally oblivious to us ( keyboards/guitar) and my Borys
through an AER Acousticube sounded heavenly - to my ears, in THAT room,
at THAT particular time in space. it changes all the time and i have
learned not to make myself as dependent on the sound i get from
whatever equipment i might use at any given gig. there are just too
many variables out of my control and i want to enjoy and concentrate on
the music, the interaction and the reaction i get from my colleagues
and - hopefully, at least from a part of it - from the audience. i know
what sound i want to hear/produce and i strive to that ideal all the
time but after all it's only one part of the package , right ?!

Jaime Sol

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Mar 16, 2006, 8:29:40 AM3/16/06
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Perfect tone to me is an acoustic tone where you can hear all the
nuances of the player, like an early Grant Green tone on the Quartets
with Sonny Clark, Kenny Burrell's Midnight Blue, and Johnny Smith
records.

sLY

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Mar 16, 2006, 8:43:01 AM3/16/06
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Please just dont say that Pat Metheny has the perfect tone... can you
say MUD.

I would have to say Pass....Johnny Smith.... I Like Tal's attack.....
hard to pick just one LOL

Tom Walls

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Mar 16, 2006, 8:49:32 AM3/16/06
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In article <1142493368.1...@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
ShawnSt...@gmail.com says...
LOL. And so begins the lifelong dance of desire and dissatisfaction!
--
Tom Walls
the guy at the Temple of Zeus

Starcaster

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Mar 16, 2006, 8:59:41 AM3/16/06
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> Couple days ago it was fat toned down neck paf.
> Today it was GretschCityBridgeJangleCharm.

This is exactly the reason why I own 20 guitars! Because Perfect Tone
(tm) changes weekly, or at least monthly. And it's better to just have
a whole box of crayons rather than just a perfect yellow, OR a perfect
purple, OR a perfect orange, etc.

dunlop212

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Mar 16, 2006, 10:01:47 AM3/16/06
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> This is exactly the reason why I own 20 guitars!

How did the L7 work out?

Starcaster

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Mar 16, 2006, 10:33:15 AM3/16/06
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Hey, thanks for asking. It's really nice! Big, beautiful old girl
with picture frame inlays and a loud, warm/scruffy tone. In really fine
condition, with just a smattering of dings and scratches.

I played it acoustically for about a week (which was fun!), then I got
my hands on a DeArmond 1100 for little less than market price, which is
still somewhat exorbitant for a pickup, but what the hell. I started
messing with that last night. It sounds GREAT. A bit one-dimensional,
but truly "the" classic vintage floating archtop sound. Having a
little trouble with the way it fits - clearance is extremely tight - I
have to have it a couple of inches away from the end of the
fingerboard, which sounds fine but gets in the way of my picking a bit.
It's the clamp on type, which is a little awkward, but definitely the
choice for non-invasive installation.

It's interesting to experience this, because the 1100 is a really warm
pickup with a smooth top end that nicely complements the L-7's
naturally bright tone. I can see why these pups were designed this
way, perfect for the kind of instruments they were meant to be used on.
They were, after all, trying to be a solution for players digging the
sound of P-90's and other early jazz guitar pickups.

Roger

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