roland pickup vs ghost pickup
Roc
VG-88 and the GR-33 and this one sales person told me that the roland pickup
is garbage. they said that there is one from a company called graphtech
called the "ghost system." he said that if you install their pickup on the
guitar its like night and day compared to the roland one. he claims the
roland pickup has some lag when you start playing more notes in a shorter
time frame. anyone ever use this so called "ghost system?"
Roc
Gerry
I've used the gk2a installed on a solid body and and the RMC system
...which is built into a piezo pickup saddle-piece which came sotck on
a Brian Moore. The difference was vast in responsiveness.
You can play faster than any midi guitar though. There are various
reasons why, but if you are reading string vibrations you will have to
wait a few milli-seconds for conversion. Most times that will be
transparent but it can be less so. This is true of any system other
than one reads contact with the fret and other such approaches.
I think the Graph Tech Hexaphonic system probably similar to RMC's by
design, and imagine it's probably as good; I like the RMC system far
more than GK technology.
<http://www.vg-8.com/pickups/graphtech>
Graph Tech seems to be talking alot about it's accoustic properties,
and thought the RMC on the Brian Moore sounds fine this-a-way, it
probably comes as no shock to find I don't play a solid body amplified
as a piezo instrument very frequently. It's wild to see though--sounds
about as good as most Fishman'd accoustic guitars!
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GregD/oasysco
> hey guys. i was looking at the roland guitar pickup that works with
> the VG-88 and the GR-33 and this one sales person told me that the
> roland pickup is garbage. they said that there is one from a company
> called graphtech called the "ghost system." he said that if you
> install their pickup on the guitar its like night and day compared to
> the roland one. he claims the roland pickup has some lag when you
> start playing more notes in a shorter time frame.
I can attest to this problem with the Roland. Try hitting the same note
right after another with no additional strength and the Roland doesn't do
the second note. You really have to dig in on the 2nd one to get the unit
to pick it up. It's an unnatural way to play. In fact, I have to adjust my
playing style dramatically when using my 135 with the GK3 and typically use
much more strenghth than normal to ensure all the notes sound out. It's the
price you pay for trying to make your guitar sound like an $89 Casio
keyboard.
>anyone ever use this
> so called "ghost system?"
No.
Greg
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> Roc
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> I can attest to this problem with the Roland. Try hitting the same note
> right after another with no additional strength and the Roland doesn't do
> the second note.
It's probably a midi converter fault rather, than pickup itself. I played it
through Yamaha G-50 Converter into Roland JV-1080 and it worked very well.
The midi converter is important part of the process.
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Gerry
<Yo...@email.com> wrote:
> I can attest to this problem with the Roland. Try hitting the same note
> right after another with no additional strength and the Roland doesn't do
> the second note. You really have to dig in on the 2nd one to get the unit
> to pick it up. It's an unnatural way to play. In fact, I have to adjust my
> playing style dramatically when using my 135 with the GK3 and typically use
> much more strenghth than normal to ensure all the notes sound out. It's the
> price you pay for trying to make your guitar sound like an $89 Casio
> keyboard.
The GR30/33 has a number of sensitivity/playing style settings for use
with their gizmo. Does your GR unit have these settings as well? What
you describe can be true in my playing, but far worse when not set
right for playing style.
GregD/oasysco
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Perhaps, but if folks are claiming better response from the Biran Moore
pickup or others, then maybe it's the pickup?
Greg
GregD/oasysco
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> In article <Xns9553EA800C0...@68.6.19.6>, GregD/oasysco
> <Yo...@email.com> wrote:
>
>> I can attest to this problem with the Roland. Try hitting the same
>> note right after another with no additional strength and the Roland
>> doesn't do the second note. You really have to dig in on the 2nd one
>> to get the unit to pick it up. It's an unnatural way to play. In
>> fact, I have to adjust my playing style dramatically when using my
>> 135 with the GK3 and typically use much more strenghth than normal to
>> ensure all the notes sound out. It's the price you pay for trying to
>> make your guitar sound like an $89 Casio keyboard.
>
> The GR30/33 has a number of sensitivity/playing style settings for use
> with their gizmo. Does your GR unit have these settings as well?
Yes.
> What you describe can be true in my playing, but far worse when not
> set right for playing style.
I have it set to the optimum setting for what I use it for and yes, it
could be even worse when set to the wrong setting. And it's not on every
patch as some seem to be set up differently than others.
'm not complaining about the unit as it does what we need very well -
synths, piano, horns --- ok as well as can eb done with me playing guitar.
Greg
Gerry
<Yo...@email.com> wrote:
> > What you describe can be true in my playing, but far worse when not
> > set right for playing style.
>
> I have it set to the optimum setting for what I use it for and yes, it
> could be even worse when set to the wrong setting. And it's not on every
> patch as some seem to be set up differently than others.
>
> 'm not complaining about the unit as it does what we need very well -
> synths, piano, horns --- ok as well as can eb done with me playing guitar.
I can overload the thing, as you describe upstream, or outrace it, or
(a particular irritant), not be able to play bass lines low on the neck
because the tone cycle is too long and it can audible hesitate. But by
and large it doesn't do these things often--not when settings are
right.
With the RMC pickup, in my usage, much of this stuff, though continuing
to be present, has been reduced significantly.