Any volunteers for a "Georging"?...
Richard Bornman
Greg M Silverman
Richard Bornman wrote:
> I feel the need to exercise my critical faculties...
Post something of yours? I will as soon as I get Pro Tools working and
my left hand thumb is healed...
This could be fun. Caveat, the first piece I am going to record is more
than likely a Bach Allemande,
but hey, you can criticize me for not making Bach swing. Eventually, I
will get bold and post a
chord melody arrangement thingy of my own being.
Only ground rule is that all criticism must be constructive to the
guitarist in question.
Cheerio!
gms--
Greg M Silverman
Greg M Silverman wrote:
This could be like an Internet Masterclass where clearly stated postive
feedback and constructive criticism is presented to the guitarist/musician
in question whose performance is under scrutiny or praise by the "current"
poster.
What about the frequncy of sessions for critique? One tune a week with
carry over and noise generted from the previous thread. Always post a new
tune at the beginning of the week (or whenever) for masterclass critique
from the peanut gallery.
>
> Cheerio!
>
> gms--
Steven Bornfeld
Answering your own posts again--man, that really sucks!
How's the hand coming along?
I think I posted a couple of weeks ago about my elbow. It's doing
better. One reason, I think, is that I injured my right wrist, so my
attention has been diverted.
Pushups are really, really bad--you know? A couple of years ago I
developed pain in my right wrist--wound up going to a hand surgeon, who
scared me by saying I might have Keinbock's disease (don't ask). Turns
out after MRI he thought I just had some early arthritic changes--that
was good news. So I recently got these pushup handles, which let you do
pushups with a straight wrist. My wrist doesn't seem to like these any
better than bent wrist. You know how hard it is to do almost anything
with a hurt wrist?
Bummer getting old. Hope you're back on the geetar soon.
Steve
>>
>>gms--
>
>
Adam Bravo
"Greg M Silverman" <g...@umn.edu> wrote in message
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Aww man, it has to be a guitarist?
Jurupari
>pushups with a straight wrist.
You can do them on your first two knuckles and the wrist will stay straight.
It makes the pushup a little harder too, and puts calluses on the knuckles in
case you need to punch somebody out.
Clif
Mr.Will
"Richard Bornman" <richard...@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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> I feel the need to exercise my critical faculties...
>
>
I'm up for it old boy - I remember you wrote that post on solo guitar and
its many shortcomings - I agreed with it all so feel free to George me old
boy. Do I have to do it back?
My clips on www.sarahandwill.co.uk and also www.sarahandwill.co.uk/secret
Not too recent, but stilla ccurate enough
Mr.Will
Hans van Leeuwen
"Richard Bornman" <richard...@ozemail.com.au> schreef in bericht
news:2js6kpF...@uni-berlin.de...
> I feel the need to exercise my critical faculties...
>
I wanna be georged by you,
just you.... nobody else but you
doodoobedoo!
Mark Guest
the bandwidth would be wasted on me. Hello? Anyone there?
--
Mark Guest
Mark at MarkGuest.net
www.MarkGuest.net
"Richard Bornman" <richard...@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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Steven Bornfeld
You're obviously waay tougher than I am.
Steve
tomw
richard...@ozemail.com.au says...
> I feel the need to exercise my critical faculties...
>
>
>
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/1/tomwallsmusic.htm
I just listened to it(my single clip), and I was a little surprised to
hear the rushed tempo. I prefer the way I'm playing this tune these
days, so please imagine it 100% better and criticize that. :)
--
Tom Walls
the guy at the Temple of Zeus who will do anything to turn the
conversation towards himself
paul
I volunteer. I'll post some clips tonight
--paul
Jurupari
not anymore. Nowadays I just sit around and listen to my arteries harden.
james seaberry
Or you could do what I do, which is pushups holding 2 dumbbells
lengthwise. That way, there is no bend and stress on the wrist, plus,
you can roll them out or in as you wish, vary the width of your arms,
and really change the focus of the muscles worked. Then, put your feet
up on a platform of some kind, and this shifts the weight even more
onto the shoulders.
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
>>You're obviously waay tougher than I am.
>
>
> not anymore. Nowadays I just sit around and listen to my arteries harden.
Do they have good time?
Steve
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
Well, the same idea with the handles. I obviously have some kind of
problem, but when I saw the surgeon last I was satisfied that he didn't
think surgery was needed and I was satisfied with that. It seems that
I'm pretty much OK if I avoid the pushups, but I'd like to get a little
bit back into shape. I may be able to get away with dips, but I really
don't see any reason why they'd be less of a problem for the wrist.
I've also hurt my back (!) doing dips.
I should probably be grateful I can still work!
Steve
Jurupari
>
no, sloppy. But they're nicely arranged..
Jurupari
>lengthwise. That way, there is no bend and stress on the wrist, plus,
>you can roll them out or in as you wish, vary the width of your arms,
>and really change the focus of the muscles worked. Then, put your feet
>up on a platform of some kind, and this shifts the weight even more
>onto the shoulders.
Ye Gods, man! What are you trying to do? Collyfornia already HAS a govna
;O)
Greg M. Silverman
But, of course is typical, eh?
> How's the hand coming along?
Better, but it is verey slow going. Shows jsut how much we take these
things for granted when they are actually working normally.
> I think I posted a couple of weeks ago about my elbow. It's doing
> better. One reason, I think, is that I injured my right wrist, so my
> attention has been diverted.
> Pushups are really, really bad--you know? A couple of years ago I
> developed pain in my right wrist--wound up going to a hand surgeon,
> who scared me by saying I might have Keinbock's disease (don't ask).
> Turns out after MRI he thought I just had some early arthritic
> changes--that was good news. So I recently got these pushup handles,
> which let you do pushups with a straight wrist. My wrist doesn't seem
> to like these any better than bent wrist. You know how hard it is to
> do almost anything with a hurt wrist?
> Bummer getting old.
Ouch! Sounds incredibly nasty! Have you been able to play much? How do
you work with a screwed-up wrist?
> Hope you're back on the geetar soon.
Thanks! Should be in a few weeks. In the meantime, I have really been
enjoying playing the mouth organ. Not quite like Toots or Larry Adler
(oe Tommy Reilley or John Sebastian Sr.), but one can certainly pretend,
eh? :-)
And I am really looking forward to getting critique from this group on
my playing, even for non jazz things (may get some insight that is quite
good). I almost have Pro Tools working, so things are on track, as it were.
gms--
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
Right now playing guitar and working don't seem to be doing any
additional damage that I can tell, esp. if I keep the wrist straight.
What really hurts is rotating the wrist against resistance--say, if I'm
washing out the inside of a glass. Flexing the wrist in either
direction causes sharp pain if I go too far. I guess I can't wash the
dishes. ;-)
>
>
>> Hope you're back on the geetar soon.
>
>
>
> Thanks! Should be in a few weeks. In the meantime, I have really been
> enjoying playing the mouth organ. Not quite like Toots or Larry Adler
> (oe Tommy Reilley or John Sebastian Sr.), but one can certainly pretend,
> eh? :-)
We seem to have this discussion every year or so. I've got to get some
recordings. I don't own any chromatic harmonicas, just a couple of
small Marine Bands.
>
> And I am really looking forward to getting critique from this group on
> my playing, even for non jazz things (may get some insight that is quite
> good). I almost have Pro Tools working, so things are on track, as it were.
>
> gms--
Soon I'm going to have DSL in the office, so I'll actually be able to
listen to some of these sound clips.
Steve
Greg M. Silverman
Sure, if someone wants to sing or play butt-trumpet or whatever...
I got this rig thingie that holds a specially designed chromatic
harmonica, where instead of having the little button to push when you
want to produce a sharp or flat, uses a mouthpiece that mimicks the
button by tilting of the head, thus allowing hands free chromatic mouth
organ playing... soooooo, I will be accompanying myself on guitar while
playing chromatic harmonica (please, no Bob Dylan/Neil Young wisecracks
from the peanut gallery... this is SERIOUS ART, not that blues
harp stuff! ;-) ) .
gms--
Greg M. Silverman
> Greg M. Silverman wrote:
>
>> Thanks! Should be in a few weeks. In the meantime, I have really been
>> enjoying playing the mouth organ. Not quite like Toots or Larry Adler
>> (oe Tommy Reilley or John Sebastian Sr.), but one can certainly
>> pretend, eh? :-)
>
>
> We seem to have this discussion every year or so. I've got to get
> some recordings. I don't own any chromatic harmonicas, just a couple
> of small Marine Bands.
If you get ANYTHING, get Toots' classic recording from 1957-58, "Man
Bites Harmonica"
(http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000000Z5Y/103-5209655-8593423?v=glance)
with
Jean Thielemans(harmonica,guitar)
Pepper Adams(baritone sax)
Kenny Drew(piano)
Wilbur Ware(bass)
Art Taylor(drums)
He also plays some fantastic guitar on this. Quite a talented chap that
somehow is still going strong after all these years.
>
>>
>> And I am really looking forward to getting critique from this group
>> on my playing, even for non jazz things (may get some insight that is
>> quite good). I almost have Pro Tools working, so things are on track,
>> as it were.
>>
>> gms--
>
>
> Soon I'm going to have DSL in the office, so I'll actually be able
> to listen to some of these sound clips.
Wish I had a faster connection at home! Sometime I'll get off my
procrastinating ass and do something about it.
gms--
Paul Kirk
> "Richard Bornman" <richard...@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> news:<2js6kpF...@uni-berlin.de>...
>> I feel the need to exercise my critical faculties...
>
http://mypage.iu.edu/~pkirk/clips.html
There are a few clips and a link to a band page with clips from gigs.
Paul
Jose Paulo Pires
> In article <2js6kpF...@uni-berlin.de>,
> richard...@ozemail.com.au says...
> > I feel the need to exercise my critical faculties...
> >
> >
> >
> You or anyone else can criticize me to your heart's content.
> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/1/tomwallsmusic.htm
(From Pat Smith's hilarious post:)
pros- Wow, really good.
cons- Unfortunately, sucks.
Just joking, of course. :-)
JP
Jon Fox
>>
>
> Sure, if someone wants to sing or play butt-trumpet or whatever...
>
> I got this rig thingie that holds a specially designed chromatic
> harmonica, where instead of having the little button to push when you
> want to produce a sharp or flat, uses a mouthpiece that mimicks the
> button by tilting of the head, thus allowing hands free chromatic
> mouth organ playing... soooooo, I will be accompanying myself on
> guitar while playing chromatic harmonica
Hey! That'll be cool...Kinda like Bob Dylan or Neil Young!!!
> (please, no Bob Dylan/Neil Young wisecracks from the peanut gallery...
Oh, sorry..............
> this is SERIOUS ART, not
> that blues
> harp stuff! ;-) ) .
>
> gms--
--
Gerry
<bornfe...@dentaltwins.com> wrote:
> > Thanks! Should be in a few weeks. In the meantime, I have really been
> > enjoying playing the mouth organ. Not quite like Toots or Larry Adler
> > (oe Tommy Reilley or John Sebastian Sr.), but one can certainly pretend,
> > eh? :-)
I "pretending" to be a guitarist for a few decades--when I woke up, I
was one.
> We seem to have this discussion every year or so. I've got to get some
> recordings. I don't own any chromatic harmonicas, just a couple of
> small Marine Bands.
I've been honking on chromo harp since about 1991 starting with a
Hohner Toots Mellow Tone. A few years later I got a couple of Hohner
CX12's. These CX12's are a wonderful experience and I'd recommend
anyone with a passing fancy to get one.
Some basic info on the harp is critical though, other than finding the
notes though. How to deal with sticky chamber covers, and that sort of
stuff. All included in Blackie Shackner's books available through F&R
Farrell. <http://www.frfarrell.com/> All else is revealed here:
<http://www.harp-l.com/> For anyone with an interest.
It's a great little instrument. Thirty years years ago in an interview
Stevie Wonder referred to it as his pocket-saxophone. I loved that and
it stayed with me.
If anyone has a daily (or weekly!) commute for 30 minutes or more twice
a day, get a chromo. In a couple of weeks (maybe days) you'll learn
most of your scales. In a few months you'll have your arpeggios down.
With what you already know of playing guitar, improv and music reading,
you'll be reading and playing at a lot higher level than any start-up
player would.
--
First they gerrymander us into one-party fiefs. Then they tell us they only
care about the swing districts. Then they complain about voter apathy.
-- Gail Collins
Gerry
<pk...@indiana.edu> wrote:
> Mostly lurking in recent years, but I'd appreciate any comments.
>
> http://mypage.iu.edu/~pkirk/clips.html
>
> There are a few clips and a link to a band page with clips from gigs.
You should post your announcement outside in its topic for greater
profile and potential listeners.
Gerry
<gmsp...@removemeatumn.edu.com> wrote:
> I got this rig thingie that holds a specially designed chromatic
> harmonica, where instead of having the little button to push when you
> want to produce a sharp or flat, uses a mouthpiece that mimicks the
> button by tilting of the head, thus allowing hands free chromatic mouth
> organ playing...
Do tell. Where did you find this thingee. Thingee's-R-Us?
Honestly, as long as my neck problems don't return this seems like an
even easier way to play this instrument in a car.
thom_j
"james seaberry" <jsea...@csc.cps.k12.il.us> wrote in message
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I prefer a more zen approach by having Anna Nicole Smith doing
squats over me as I lay in a zen'ed prone position. What a superb
nuero'muscular excursion this is!! 8^)'.. my bad wittle tee'..
Greg M. Silverman
>In article <cbcb9s$1kp$1...@lenny.tc.umn.edu>, Greg M. Silverman
><gmsp...@removemeatumn.edu.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>I got this rig thingie that holds a specially designed chromatic
>>harmonica, where instead of having the little button to push when you
>>want to produce a sharp or flat, uses a mouthpiece that mimicks the
>>button by tilting of the head, thus allowing hands free chromatic mouth
>>organ playing...
>>
>>
>
>Do tell. Where did you find this thingee. Thingee's-R-Us?
>
>
From some guy on the corner, actually. ;-)
No, the cat's name is Vern Smith (found out about him via the
Slidemeister Yahoo list). His URL is www.hands-free-chromatic.7p.com
(it's basically a modified Hohner 270). I haven't actually tried it yet,
but am imagining it'll be a complete trip.
>Honestly, as long as my neck problems don't return this seems like an
>even easier way to play this instrument in a car.
>
>
Wow! Never thought of that one. When I now play while driving I have a
helluva time shifting, steering, holding the instrument and of course
pressing the slide thingie-nob. This'll work slick as muck with the
headset thingie; I'll be able to do this AND eat AND talk on my cell
phone, all behind the wheel! Ain't life grand!
gms--
Mark Smart
I suppose I will volunteer:
http://www.marksmart.net/bands/moodindigo/moodindigo.html
The most recent of the mp3's is from 1999, and I've improved since
then, but these are the best recordings I have of my jazz guitar
playing.
I think I already know everything that's wrong with them, but someone
might come up with some suggestions for improvement that I hadn't
thought of. First I will critique them myself as a preemptive strike:
The first set of mp3's is from the fall of 1997. I had just started
the group. I was trying to play like a rock guitarist with a lot of
pulloffs and hammers (which wasn't working very well), and didn't know
how to solo any any other way than single note lines, except where I
had worked out a chorded melody on "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat". Solos
really aren't very good. Amy sounds really nice, though, especially on
"September Song".
The second set was recorded in June 1999. In the intervening time I
had practiced block chords quite a bit, partly as a result of hearing
the 1997 stuff and thinking, "Dang, I REALLY need to learn how to do
chorded solos!". There are still problems, but I think I had improved
a lot in the intervening two years. I was still trying to make heavy
use of legato, and it still wasn't working very well. Fortunately that
doesn't show too bad in these recordings. I like my solo on
"Straighten Up"; it's slow enough that the picking is not a problem,
and I think I structured it very well. I wish all of them could be
that good.
The last set is from Sept 1999. After hearing myself flailing badly on
an un-posted fast tune from the June 1999 gig ("I'm an Errand Girl For
Rhythm" as played by Krall), I had decided to actually learn picking
technique, like actually PICKING EVERY NOTE (gasp!!). This was a major
overhaul in my technique. So this gig happened when I had only been
picking every note for a few months. I am still sloppy with it, but it
sounds better than the previous recordings. On "Seven Come Eleven" I
am almost hitting things at that tempo, but not quite. I quote Charlie
Christian's solo and mess up the bridge. I do like how my block chords
sound on this tune, though, and it has good energy. The thing I like
the most in the third group is how Passion Flower came off. We were
all stressed out because the tweeter in the PA speaker had blown up
during the sound check and the PA sounded really boomy and awful (you
can hear this in the mp3). I think this made me play with a lot more,
well, "Passion" than usual. This KMD PA speaker has an automotive
light bulb inside that functions as a fuse for the tweeter. During the
sound check, there was a burst of high-frequency feedback, and someone
in the audience said they saw the speaker actually light up from the
inside while the bulb was burning out. (This really happens! I had
seen it a few times before I knew there was a light bulb inside the
speaker and thought I was going crazy). Then I tried to repair it
during a break and the fuse socket came off in my hand. Later on the
sound man ran home and got a non-blown speaker for us to use, but I
think all of these recordings are from when we were using the toasted
speaker. When I heard the recording, I was suprised at how nice
Passion Flower sounded after all that. I think I play better when I'm
mad. There is also a nice John Cage moment during the intro where the
drummer scrapes a stick down his cymbal for a special effect, then a
second later the cash register rings.
I think "Ruby, My Dear" has a really nice vibe, too. There is also
some nice musical tension in my solo caused by me getting totally lost
and playing the wrong chords.
Since these recordings were made, I've improved my picking technique
quite a bit and worked on arpeggios. The slow process of improving
continues. My jazz guitar would improve faster if I wasn't also
working on 857 other projects, but I gotta be me.
Mark Smart
http://www.marksmart.net
Gerry
<gmsp...@removemeatumn.edu.com> wrote:
> No, the cat's name is Vern Smith (found out about him via the
> Slidemeister Yahoo list). His URL is www.hands-free-chromatic.7p.com
> (it's basically a modified Hohner 270). I haven't actually tried it
> yet, but am imagining it'll be a complete trip.
Aw jeez--I thought it could be affixed to any chromo, I didn't realize
it was a modified harp itself.
> >Honestly, as long as my neck problems don't return this seems like
> >an even easier way to play this instrument in a car.
>
> Wow! Never thought of that one. When I now play while driving I have
> a helluva time shifting, steering, holding the instrument and of
> course pressing the slide thingie-nob.
Well I only really play when I to speed or waiting in traffic which use
to constitute the bulk of my commute in SoCal. I always hold it right
handed and with the key with my thumb, whereas when I play I work it
with my finger. It doesn't make any difference to my chops since
mostly I was working with location (scales, arps, etc.) more than
performance or anything.
> This'll work slick as muck with the headset thingie; I'll be able to
> do this AND eat AND talk on my cell phone, all behind the wheel!
> Ain't life grand!
Just put a cautionary bumper sticker on your car...
florian schmidt
i dig it :)
flo
--
Palimm Palimm!
Greg M. Silverman
>In article <cbcrlg$3k3$1...@lenny.tc.umn.edu>, Greg M. Silverman
><gmsp...@removemeatumn.edu.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>No, the cat's name is Vern Smith (found out about him via the
>>Slidemeister Yahoo list). His URL is www.hands-free-chromatic.7p.com
>>(it's basically a modified Hohner 270). I haven't actually tried it
>>yet, but am imagining it'll be a complete trip.
>>
>>
>
>Aw jeez--I thought it could be affixed to any chromo, I didn't realize
>it was a modified harp itself.
>
>
Actually, I seem to recall that there is some sort of foot operated
device that attaches to the harp allowing use of a non-modified instrument.
Try Googling on some string like
hands free chromatic harmonica handicapped foot operated
>
>
>
>>>Honestly, as long as my neck problems don't return this seems like
>>>an even easier way to play this instrument in a car.
>>>
>>>
>>Wow! Never thought of that one. When I now play while driving I have
>>a helluva time shifting, steering, holding the instrument and of
>>course pressing the slide thingie-nob.
>>
>>
>
>Well I only really play when I to speed or waiting in traffic which use
>to constitute the bulk of my commute in SoCal. I always hold it right
>handed and with the key with my thumb, whereas when I play I work it
>with my finger. It doesn't make any difference to my chops since
>mostly I was working with location (scales, arps, etc.) more than
>performance or anything.
>
>
>
Got it... luckily traffic isn't THAT bad here... I suppose I could wail
off a phrase or two while waiting at red lights...
it may make driving more enjoyable!
>>This'll work slick as muck with the headset thingie; I'll be able to
>>do this AND eat AND talk on my cell phone, all behind the wheel!
>>Ain't life grand!
>>
>>
>
>Just put a cautionary bumper sticker on your car...
>
>
>
Tee hee! Believe it or not, I don't even own a cell phone!
gms--
gtrmon
"Jurupari" <juru...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040623095530...@mb-m19.aol.com...
> >You're obviously waay tougher than I am.
>
> not anymore. Nowadays I just sit around and listen to my arteries harden.
I thought I was doing that same thing but they went in to check my renal
arteries yesterday (ouch and ouch again) and possibly fix one via
angioplasty. The bad news was that there was nothing to fix, my hypertension
remains hyper and uncontrolled. It would have disappeared just like that.
The good news was that I have no hardening of the arteries, no
atherosclerosis, am in good vascular shape. Either I've treated my body okay
over the years, or beer is really good for the vascular system. Just
waiting for the aneurysm or the heart to wear out at this point I guess. Bp
meds don't seem to do much for the bp but they sure make the nonarterial
hardening less of a concern.
Don
gtrmon
"thom_j" <thom_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Could you ask her to swing by my place over the weekend? I'm not allowed to
lift but am allowed to separate.
dj
geekg...@aol.com
> I feel the need to exercise my critical faculties...
It seems that I've been "Georged" so many times that I'm beginning to
feel pretty numb about the whole experience. But anyone who cares to
"george" some more can find real audio clips on my site
(www.ericelias.net) Giant Steps opens on the site and there is a
little clip that you can click on for an up coming solo project that
I'm doing -- it's on the front of my site. The real clips are so
compressed that the quality is crappy, but you can hear some playing.
If you go to my bios/press page you can check out my bass playing and
other instruments on the respective bio links.
www.cdbaby.com/ericelias2 has some better quality clips for jazz.
--George away!
--Eric Elias
www.ericelias.net www.funkyfolkmusic.com
thom_j
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