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Gibson Experts: Is this really a 1950s ES-150?

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steve

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Feb 7, 2007, 9:51:08 AM2/7/07
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I would have no doubt, except the seller tells me it's a 16" body with (he
thinks) spruce top. The post war es-150s are 17" and plywood, and it's a
post war logo for sure.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=007&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=170078174717&rd=1&rd=1

Could this be an L-50 with P-90 added?

Any clues?

thanks,
steve
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"The accused will now make a bogus statement."
James Joyce

helmut_...@hotmail.com

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Feb 7, 2007, 10:49:57 AM2/7/07
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On Feb 7, 3:51 pm, "steve" <s...@steve.com> wrote:
> I would have no doubt, except the seller tells me it's a 16" body with (he
> thinks) spruce top. The post war es-150s are 17" and plywood, and it's a
> post war logo for sure.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=007&sspagename=STRK%...

>
> Could this be an L-50 with P-90 added?

Maybe a ES-130/135 from the mid-fifties?

steve

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Feb 7, 2007, 11:24:33 AM2/7/07
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On 7-Feb-2007, smacked up and reeling, helmut_...@hotmail.com blindly
formulated
the following incoherence:

> > Could this be an L-50 with P-90 added?
>
> Maybe a ES-130/135 from the mid-fifties?

Accoprding to this resource:

http://www.provide.net/~cfh/gibson3.html

the 130/5 would have a cutaway.

I wonder if this is really an es-125?

tom walls

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Feb 7, 2007, 11:42:54 AM2/7/07
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In article <HYmdnRAStK7fYFTY...@rcn.net>, st...@steve.com
says...

>
> Accoprding to this resource:
>
> http://www.provide.net/~cfh/gibson3.html
>
> the 130/5 would have a cutaway.
>

IMHO non-cuts 135's are more easily found than those with cutaways.
--
Tom Walls
the guy at the Temple of Zeus

DHM

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Feb 7, 2007, 11:46:14 AM2/7/07
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On Feb 7, 8:51 am, "steve" <s...@steve.com> wrote:
> I would have no doubt, except the seller tells me it's a 16" body with (he
> thinks) spruce top. The post war es-150s are 17" and plywood, and it's a
> post war logo for sure.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=007&sspagename=STRK%...

>
> Could this be an L-50 with P-90 added?
>
> Any clues?
>
> thanks,
> steve
> --
> "The accused will now make a bogus statement."
> James Joyce

Excpet for the tuners, this instrument looks identical to my 1960
L-50.
BUT -- notwithstanding the Vintage Guitar info, I always thought
that's what an ES-150 was -- an L-50 with a pickup on it.
So maybe you're both right.

dunlop212

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Feb 7, 2007, 11:47:18 AM2/7/07
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I think that the trapezoid neck inlay and beveled pickguard make it a
130 or 135. The model numbers have more to do with the year than any
distinguishing features, I think (the later ones were 135s). You
should be able to get the year from numbers inside the body; they may
be faint but visible; look in both f holes with a flashlight. It is
almost certainly a laminate top (unless it is an L-50 with a user
routed in P90).

The BIN is a bargain, I think.Those necks are nice; pretty much the
same neck used on 50s LP standards. The pickups are, of course,
standard Gibson. The only compromise here is the lack of cutaway; a
50s cutaway Gibson jazz box would cost thousands more, though. Hit the
BIN before someone else does.

Mark Guest

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Feb 7, 2007, 2:41:08 PM2/7/07
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It appears to be identical to my '56 ES-135. Nice guitar, and a great
neck. The BIN is quite reasonable, IMO. Someone in the know could date
it from the pots. I used a bright full spectrum light to read the
interior model stamp. Without the aid of a bright light, the stamp is
invisible (to my old eyes). If it comes in with a spruce top it's not
a 135, which is maple ply front and back, mahogony neck, and (I think)
mahogony sides. Nice box.

On Feb 7, 9:51 am, "steve" <s...@steve.com> wrote:
> I would have no doubt, except the seller tells me it's a 16" body with (he
> thinks) spruce top. The post war es-150s are 17" and plywood, and it's a
> post war logo for sure.
>

> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=007&sspagename=STRK%...

Peter Huggins

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Feb 7, 2007, 2:46:24 PM2/7/07
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The 150 has dot markers in the neck, trapezoids after 1950 or so. Looks
like an L-50, but those were not electric, so 130 / 135 is probably
correct. Or 125 if it has a flat back.

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steve

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Feb 7, 2007, 4:45:18 PM2/7/07
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On 7-Feb-2007, smacked up and reeling, "dunlop212" <ed_h...@bellsouth.net>

blindly formulated
the following incoherence:

> The BIN is a bargain, I think.Those necks are nice; pretty much the


> same neck used on 50s LP standards. The pickups are, of course,
> standard Gibson. The only compromise here is the lack of cutaway; a
> 50s cutaway Gibson jazz box would cost thousands more, though. Hit the
> BIN before someone else does.

Someone agreed with you. I was waiting for the seller to answer some
questions and...

..so, what else is on the bay?

dunlop212

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Feb 7, 2007, 5:25:44 PM2/7/07
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On Feb 7, 4:45 pm, "steve" <s...@steve.com> wrote:
> On 7-Feb-2007, smacked up and reeling, "dunlop212" <ed_ha...@bellsouth.net>

Most BINs are stupidly high. This one wasn't. This was no time to be a
grandma. I am guessing that it might be a while before you see a bound
neck Gibson P90 full depth 50s archtop that clean at that price point.
Like never. With patience, you could probably get a 125, though.

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