Jazz Guitarists' Day Jobs
noisyjazzman
to be a preponderance of IT people (software developers) and graphic
artists/designers.
I've always found the software development / jazz guitar pairing
strange: I do contract software development for a living, and can't
imagine any of my peers playing guitar. They're a dull bunch on the
whole (gadgets and money the prevailing interests).
isaac sprintis
mathematics and/or logic. I work as an website information architect.
In the several dot coms I've worked at I've met several good musicians
that are in technical positions. In fact one day I went to my jazz
guitar teachers house after work and there was a co-worker finishing up
his lesson before me.
I wouldn't say they are any duller then some jazz musicians I know.
Gantt Kushner
jack-of-all-trades
kind of guy who happens to land in situations that call for a fair share
of jazz
playing. In my "spare" time I run my recording studio. I've been an
electronic
technician, both in the field and at the bench at various times in my
career, but
I spent a great many years just playing for a living.
Gantt
Joe Finn
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All of the guys I work with are full time pros with one or two exceptions.
Almost all of the pros are diversified somewhat in composing, teaching etc.
One guy I play with is a music librarian and copyist for a major artist.
Another is into music promo and management pretty heavy. .....joe
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Steve Carter
I don't find IT folks a dull bunch; many of them are very funny and
lively, but I haven't met any jazz musicians in the lot.
I have met some people in IT who love music though. I've had the great
honor to work with Jean Ichbiah, the creator of the Ada language. He
owns, among other recordings, about a dozen recordings of Mahler's
Fifth. I was his guest at Symphony Hall to hear Mahler's Fifth.
Recently, he and his wife had to leave for Europe suddenly so he gave
me his tickets to the opera.
One reason I enjoy this newsgroup is that I get to "hang out" with
some intersting musicians. Virtually, most of the time, but I've met a
few in person and they've been great people and dedicated guitarists.
Steve
On 23 Jun 2004 16:24:17 -0700, "noisyjazzman" <noisyj...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Steve Carter
www.frogstoryrecords.com
noisyjazzman
personable and pleasant to work with. But generally lacking interest in
much outside of a narrow range of computer-related things. Yet
obviously that isn't the case for you or other jazz-playing IT folk. No
doubt the profile varies in different places.
Rbsoul
seriously for about 4 years now, having played guitar for 30 and gigging in a
funk band for the last eight.
But in the day (and sometimes night) I'm a Director of Photography and work
freelance for anyone who'll pay me. Mostly I work on documentaries but also do
network magazine shows (60 min, 20/20 etc) as well as PBS arts programs and
national Public Service Announcements. The work is rewarding but time consuming
and makes practicing difficult and keeping gigs precarious (I've had to find
replacements often).
Through my work I've had the opportunity to meet, talk and spend time with many
jazz luminaries including spending a whole night at Les Pauls house sharing his
leftover thanksgiving turkey and popcorn as we talked in his kitchen till about
5AM (no we didn't jam), meeting Antonio Carlos( Tom) Jobim at his apartment in
Rio and interviewing him at the piano (he said he wouldn't play...but he did),
videotaping Jackie McClain teaching young jazzsters in the day and playing a
gig at the Blue Note at night, taking Abby Lincoln out to dinner in a fine NYC
hotel restaurant (she knew we were paying and ate well!), Branford Marsalis,
Chucho Valdez, Max Roach and more. All these people have been pretty
inspirational and really a pleasure to meet. I've not played any music with
them but have done my art as a cameraman to make them look as good as possible
and get thier stories to the public.
I actually get a lot of my inspiration from this group. After finding this
group it put me into action to learn more and to find a teacher. I practice
more, listen to more jazz (this drives my wife crazy), jam with more people and
post my music publicly to be georged (I don't give a f*ck about what george
says unless I can learn something from his words. My skin is pretty thick).
If you follow the links from the video link on my site (below my name) you can
see a demo reel of some of my work (none of the people mentioned above are on
there) and read a little about the work I've done in my day job. Also you can
hear some of my music.
My desire is to become a really knowledgable and good jazz player... not to
make money or be famous (though that would be nice but doesn't happen in jazz)
but to please myself and to be able to play with people who can take me to
higher levels (I've only experienced that place you get to when playing when
shit is happening that you don't quite understand but the flo is there and
you're kind of outside your body watching it happen and it's good. What is that
called?)
Glad to be here,
Ken Willinger http://hometown.aol.com/rbsoul/myhomepage/profile.html
Steve Carter
Al
> jack-of-all-trades kind of guy who happens to land in
> situations that call for a fair share of jazz playing.
That describes me too. I played professionally through my teens, twenties,
and early thirties. By then I'd established a career in marketing research
(survey design, data analysis, etc.), and I dropped back to extremely
part-time playing. In 1991, I started my own home-based research business.
I still play every day, but I don't play out that much. My nine guitars are
in the very next room while I'm working my boring research gig, so I'm
always wandering in there to play for ten minutes here and there. Works for
me.
noisyjazzman
day job.
Joe Finn
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Ken: Thanks for posting that. It's very interesting to me to hear from
people who are self employed outside of music. I feel like I am myself what
you describe: a freelancer. I'm an independent contractor and I know how
tough it can be to make this viable.
It sounds like you have taken your freelancing to a pretty high level and my
hat is off to you, man. ..........joe
Bob Agnew
programmers. Musicians came out way on top. I've met lots of other
software engineers who play musical instruments; almost all of them are
guitar players. Go figure.
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Bob Agnew
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<snip/>
> >
> >My desire is to become a really knowledgable and good jazz player... not
to
> >make money or be famous (though that would be nice but doesn't happen in
jazz)
> >but to please myself and to be able to play with people who can take me
to
> >higher levels (I've only experienced that place you get to when playing
when
> >shit is happening that you don't quite understand but the flo is there
and
> >you're kind of outside your body watching it happen and it's good. What
is that
> >called?)
> >Glad to be here,
I think it's called an "Out of Body Experience".
Jeff DeMond
I played guitar through high school and college (including the "A" Jazz
Ensemble at the University of Alabama in the mid '70's, where I first met
Gene Bertoncini and other great players). Left college for two years to
tour with an r&b-influenced southern rock band (we were on Elektra Records,
so opened for diverse acts including Eagles, Linda Ronstadt, Jackson Browne,
Ted Nugent, Pointer Sisters, Rush, Roy Buchanan; did a portion of the
Frampton Comes Alive tour w/ Peter Frampton, etc.).
After school, moved to New York and worked as a CPA in an international
accounting firm for 7 years, taught college at night, played weddings, etc.
on weekends with some great jazz players around NY/NJ/CT. Since mid '80's
have been chief financial officer of a cable television company. Have
continued playing every day whenever possible, added a number of really
great guitars in recent years (keeps me plugged into people like John
Buscarino, Linda Manzer, Bill Moll) and have moved to 7-string in the last
year or so (that will occupy the next decade for me). Have wife, kids, dog,
career . . . . but still plan to play guitar MORE. Still feeding off this
newsgroup and all the energy you all throw off - thanks for this community
and all the music you share, by the way!
Home in CT, office in Westchester - thinking of finding someone to study
with. Any ideas? Joe Finn, how far away are you? (Oops, I've drifted off
topic again).
Jeff DeMond
Kevin DeMarco
and general IT stuff for my boss. But during the school year I attend
Georgia Tech for electrical engineering. I play in the Georgia Tech Jazz
Combo, but I dont plan on getting a music minor or anything. Anyone know of
any good jazz/funk venues in the Atlanta area? Let me know, I want to start
gigging since it will be my sophomore year.
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gtg...@mail.gatech.edu
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Electrical Engineering
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Patrick L.
I'm a photographer, and I love doing this as much as I do playing.
Patrick.
Morey Richman
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> > What do the non-pro's here do to earn a crust? I've noticed what seems
> > to be a preponderance of IT people (software developers) and graphic
> > artists/designers.
> >
> > I've always found the software development / jazz guitar pairing
> > strange: I do contract software development for a living, and can't
> > imagine any of my peers playing guitar. They're a dull bunch on the
> > whole (gadgets and money the prevailing interests).
After having played for a living throughout the 80s in Top 40 bands, studio
work, jingles, backing bands for touring artists and even a couple of
original bands that got a bit of recognition (not much sales though!) up
here in Canada, I got very disenchanted with the business, travelling and
one sided deals that musicians got and decided to join "the other side". In
1992 I started a record company that recorded, licensed and occasionally
purchased music from the Major and Independent record companies and
Independent artists (among other things) with the idea of selling cheap but
good compilations, historical recordings, special interest music and
premiums in what was then alternative markets (non record stores). The
demise of record retail outlets and the exponential growth of outlets like
WalMart, Best Buy, Target, pharmacies, grocery stores and similar big box
retailers that sold the top music hits enabled the company to grow to the
tune of about 14 million CDs sold per year in North America alone. I pretty
much stopped playing for 6 or 7 years during that time but I've recently
sold the company to a financial group that will permit me to get back to
what I have been putting off for a long time - to get back to playing Jazz
guitar. Like Jeff, I am a recent convert to 7 string, although that may
change. I am now a consultant to labels, licensors, licensees, publishers,
distributors and record companies of all types, mostly in the evaluation and
exploitation of music and music video catalogs and copyrights.
John Powell
I'm a GP - a family medical practitioner. don't know if any other
medical people in this group though. There was a deep vein of music
running through the medical school and I first started in bands then.
Since then after a break to start a family, once the kids were out of
nappies (diapers) then I resumed my musical education and found a
teacher, and realised how high that mountain was I wanted to climb.
Now realise that you shouldn't think about getting to the top, just
enjoy the climbing, and every now and then look back and see how far
you've come.
Of the amateur jazz musicians I know there seem to be a mix of
teachers / lecturers, and IT people, and a few medical and legal
people too
John
Jack Zucker
There are other photographers in the group as well (some amateur and some
pro). I'm an amateur as is Jimmy Bruno but we both share a passion for
photography. I have some photos on my www.jackzucker.com site if you ever
feel like taking a look.
Are any of your photos online?
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Jack Zucker
Goldstein, Finn, etc., are making their dough. Around here the only way to
make a living is teaching. Dan Wall who lives in Cleveland and is one of the
best jazz pianists and organists I've ever heard teaches and plays in a pop
band for money.
Come on guys, fess up. How much is in your trust fund? :-)
Jaz
Jazz Guy
I've played guitar for over 25 years, 10 - 15 years trying to play
Jazz. (I started with the Mickey Baker book like a lot of players back
then)
I've met lots of IT people who play an instrument to some level,
mainly keyboards/guitar players.
Guy
Gary Beck
guitar till 1962. The sign business definatly supports my Jazz habit
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Alan Smith
Interesting post.
Been a recruiter for 28 years, the last 22 in healthcare with the past
16 devoted exclusively to recruiting marketing professionals for the
medical device companies around the country.
alan
Rick Handel
Started off as an electrical engineer--hated it-- and later got a Ph.D. in
psychology. I've been working as a psychologist for about 4 years. I
played in a gigging jazz quartet for most of grad school. I considered
fulltime music when I was younger, but I quickly realized that I don't have
the personality to deal with the potentially difficult financial aspects of
being a fulltime musician.
Rick
tomw
says...
> What do the non-pro's here do to earn a crust? I've noticed what seems
> to be a preponderance of IT people (software developers) and graphic
> artists/designers.
>
When I was a young guy I wanted to play music and needed to support a
family, but had no job skills. As I took whatever jobs came my way, I
learned that I enjoyed the craft and camaraderie that I found working in
restaurants. Most restaurant work also offers a flexible schedule which
complements the life of a gigging musician. Eventually I enrolled in a
business management curicullum and became more entrepeneurial, and when
my daughter approached college age I became more serious about taking
advantage of whatever business opportunities came my way. Both the music
and the job require a lot of time, discipline, and sacrifice in order
really excel. I never really achieved a helluva lot musically, nor did I
become I big force in the restaurant industry, but I did okay in both
and eventually earned a pretty good living.
The end.
--
Tom Walls
the guy at the Temple of Zeus
Dean
and database maintenance for most of that time. Worked for publishing
companies since about 1979, in many capacities. I have known many IT
guys who play guitar, keyboards, bass, drums. I'm the only one of them
who is in or near the world of jazz. My last paying gig as a pro was in
1976. For the following decade or so I made less money than while
playing/teaching.
Keith Freeman
I'm a freelance translator.
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-Keith
Music samples, tips, Portable Changes at
http://home.wanadoo.nl/keith.freeman/
E-mail: keith DOT freeman AT wanadoo DOT nl
Joe Finn
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Well, I might as well admit it. I was born filthy stinking rich. My mother
is heir to a fortune that her family had earned selling ketchup.
Today my biggest problem is whether to drive the Ferrari to the yacht club
or to have my driver take me in the limo. ......joe
Chip L
Safety/Training/Enviro/Industrial Engineering
The coolest thing about my job is that I wrote the original proposal for my
job and department, named my job title and department, wrote my (and staff)
job descriptions, and proposed ME to run it. I basically created my dream
job. I can make a good living at a job I enjoy and use my music as a
creative hobby.
Paul Sanwald
ways to do music fulltime. A big eye opener for me was how many full
time people teach guitar for money. I might get flamed for this, but
teaching guitar makes you a professional teacher, not a professional
jazz guitarist. I hate teaching guitar, and never wanted to end up
having to teach guitar for money.
joe and kevin I'm sure play full time, but there are really not that
many people who do. not only do you have to be a great player, but you
have to live in an area where playing fulltime is possible (i.e. there
are enough gigs and the musicians/gigs ratio is not too high). When I
got to new york I was simply amazed at how many great guitarists teach,
and take really bad wedding gigs to make ends meet. you guys would be
shocked.
Incidentally joe, until very recently most of my work as a programmer
has been freelance work. It requires a lot more responsibility and
buisness acumen than just working for some company (as I'm sure you
know), and I think working as a freelancer can be a really great thing.
downsides are the lack of benefits (insurance) and uncertainty about
where the next check is coming from.
As far as jobs go, for me personally I never want to have all my eggs
in one basket. If I lost my day job tomorrow, I would have absolutely
no problem paying the rent indefinitely doing music and playing cards.
Ideally, I would be really happy teaching ear training or composing
music for a living. I would love to just gig of course, but only if I
could play gigs at a much higher level than I currently am capable of.
That is something I'm working towards all the time.
--paul
Mark Smart
> to be a preponderance of IT people (software developers) and graphic
> artists/designers.
>
> strange: I do contract software development for a living, and can't
> imagine any of my peers playing guitar. They're a dull bunch on the
> whole (gadgets and money the prevailing interests).
Originally trained as an electrical engineer, I now work for a
computer-based education company, repairing and testing SMT electronic
hardware and working on various other wiring and programming projects.
The soldering skills have come in very handy for building musical
contraptions.
Mark Smart
www.marksmart.net
geekg...@aol.com
> Well, I might as well admit it. I was born filthy stinking rich. My mother
> is heir to a fortune that her family had earned selling ketchup.
>
> Today my biggest problem is whether to drive the Ferrari to the yacht club
> or to have my driver take me in the limo. ......joe
>
> --
> Visit me on the web www.joefinn.net
> >
I love it. Did you guys start the grade-A fnacy Dijon ketchup trend
Joe? I wish I had invented something. Seriously though, On a daily
basis you can find me playing Mr. mom to my 3-year old, teaching and
playing jazz or any number of other instruments or trying to get
better gigs (I'm practicing for my big part--"would you like fries
with that?"). I wouldn't change a thing! :)
--Eric Elias
www.ericelias.net www.funkyfolkmusic.com
Lawson Stone
noisyj...@yahoo.com wrote on 6/23/04 7:24 PM:
> What do the non-pro's here do to earn a crust? I've noticed what seems
> to be a preponderance of IT people (software developers) and graphic
> artists/designers.
I am professor of Old Testament Interpretation at Asbury Theological
Seminary, Wilmore KY, a graduate school of theology where about 1400
students on 3 different campuses pursue training for various ministries in
about 40 countries and maybe 15 denominations.
Did I do the spiel okay?
For me, jazz guitar is a wonderful emotional and personal outlet in a life
characterized by a lot of hard-core thinking on very arcane topics. After
puzzling over a passage in the book of Jeremiah, everything from the Hebrew
verbs to the problem of pain, I kinda enjoy the idea of "playing what I
feel."
Upon hearing me, though, many people think I don't feel so well...
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"It was no good answering that the Jesuits always know everything. We needed
a more seductive explanation."--Casaubon
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Lawson Stone
Let's talk about: Jazz Guitar, Cowboy Action Shooting, Horses,the Bible
Come by for a visit at: http://home.alltel.net/lawsonstone
For academic stuff: http://fc.asburyseminary.edu/~lawson_stone
thomas
>
> Well, I might as well admit it. I was born filthy stinking rich. My mother
> is heir to a fortune that her family had earned selling ketchup.
So John Kerry is your stepfather?
Patrick L.
> Hey Patrick,
>
> There are other photographers in the group as well (some amateur and some
> pro). I'm an amateur as is Jimmy Bruno but we both share a passion for
> photography. I have some photos on my www.jackzucker.com site if you ever
> feel like taking a look.
>
> Are any of your photos online?
Nothing really artistic
I have a wedding site and a headshot site, but it is the usual stuff.
I do want to get more into shooting bands, players, black and white artistic
stuff, and I've reserved www.beatphoto.com for this purpose. But right
now, the wedding season is on and I don't have much time for anything else.
Next January, when things slow down, I want to do some bands, artistic
stuff, and I will volunteer just to get this kind of portfolio going, to
put on the beatphoto site. I work in San Diego, Orange County, Riverside,
and San Bernardino areas.
Patrick
Patrick L.
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Mickey Baker and Aaron Shearer (for classical) were my first two books.
Patrick
Patrick L.
>
> There are other photographers in the group as well (some amateur and some
> pro). I'm an amateur as is Jimmy Bruno but we both share a passion for
> photography. I have some photos on my www.jackzucker.com site if you ever
> feel like taking a look.
>
Nice site, photos.
My web sites are commercial, so I don't think it is appropriate to link to
them.
Patrick
geekg...@aol.com
>
> I am professor of Old Testament Interpretation at Asbury Theological
> Seminary, Wilmore KY, a graduate school of theology where about 1400
> students on 3 different campuses pursue training for various ministries in
> about 40 countries and maybe 15 denominations.
>
Hey Lawson,
I did my bachelors degree at Roberts Welseyan Coleege. Several of my
profs had degrees from Asbury and several of my friends went on to
Asbury for grad school. Nice to read your post.
--Eric Elias
www.ericelias.net www.funkyfolkmusic.com
Jon Fox
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> > >
>
>
> I love it. Did you guys start the grade-A fnacy Dijon ketchup trend
> Joe? I wish I had invented something. Seriously though, On a daily
> basis you can find me playing Mr. mom to my 3-year old, teaching and
> playing jazz or any number of other instruments or trying to get
> better gigs (I'm practicing for my big part--"would you like fries
> with that?"). I wouldn't change a thing! :)
>
> --Eric Elias
> www.ericelias.net www.funkyfolkmusic.com
My daughter just turned four this week. Other than that, this post could
almost have come from me!
Jon
--
hans van leeuwen
> > What do the non-pro's here do to earn a crust?
>
> I'm a freelance translator.
N-E ?
Dus geen probleem voor je om dit te lezen?
Hoe klinkt 'Scheveningen' uit jouw mond?
H. ;-)
Henry Moon
Henry
JS Groot
>
> What do the non-pro's here do to earn a crust?
I am a physicist involved in radar research for nearly 16 years now,
four days a week. Love to noodle at both low and high frequencies!
Jos Groot
Keith Freeman
> Dus geen probleem voor je om dit te lezen?
> Hoe klinkt 'Scheveningen' uit jouw mond?
vissershuisje nota bene!
Des Higgins
> > N-E ?
> > Dus geen probleem voor je om dit te lezen?
> > Hoe klinkt 'Scheveningen' uit jouw mond?
> Herkenbaar, denk ik... Ik heb er tenslotte een aantal jaren gewoond, in
een
> vissershuisje nota bene!
>
Schaevenlijke dijk aus van de chris waddle twai bier alstablieft nijmegen.
Je bent een lekker stuck loempje frikadelle frites met.
Lawson Stone
geekg...@aol.com at geekg...@aol.com wrote on 6/24/04 10:33 PM:
> I did my bachelors degree at Roberts Welseyan Coleege. Several of my
> profs had degrees from Asbury and several of my friends went on to
> Asbury for grad school. Nice to read your post.
Kewl!
Did you know Joel and Jonathan Hunt? They were there in the late 70's and
were classmates in seminary.
Myth
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> Hey Patrick,
>
> There are other photographers in the group as well (some amateur and some
> pro). I'm an amateur as is Jimmy Bruno but we both share a passion for
> photography. I have some photos on my www.jackzucker.com site if you ever
> feel like taking a look.
I felt like it, and went through most of it. It seems that your mother
mother in every way was a beautiful lady, unfortunately I couldn't hear her
tracks, got nothing. Would like to though, if you can fix them?
Tom
MBR
> got to new york I was simply amazed at how many great guitarists teach,
> and take really bad wedding gigs to make ends meet. you guys would be
> shocked.
That sounds a lot like the scene here too, just on a smaller scale.
There are quite a few pro level players who do a lot of teaching and
play of all sorts of gigs in order to make ends meet. There's just a
few that play only jazz, and their existence, financially speaking, is
marginal at best.
Mr.Will
formed five years ago to get people playing music. Charitable aims, but not
legally a charity.
Also a photographer - though I dont see this as employment even though I get
paid for it.
Mr.Will
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> What do the non-pro's here do to earn a crust? I've noticed what seems
> to be a preponderance of IT people (software developers) and graphic
> artists/designers.
>
richieb
> What do the non-pro's here do to earn a crust? I've noticed what seems
> to be a preponderance of IT people (software developers) and graphic
> artists/designers.
>
> I've always found the software development / jazz guitar pairing
> strange: I do contract software development for a living, and can't
> imagine any of my peers playing guitar. They're a dull bunch on the
> whole (gadgets and money the prevailing interests).
I've been a programmer for over 25 years. Still code every day. One of
my regular jam groups had: piano (system admin), bass (software
architect), drums (network engineer) and me on guitar.
I've probably made most money playing guitar when I was in High
School. For a while I played with a "accordion trio" (accordion,
drums, guitar "polka-jazz" :)). Played lots of parties in Brooklyn and
we played everything in F.
I found many musicians among the IT people I worked with over the
years. None of them were dull :)
...richie
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Nite Gig: Music
I'm now full time music. I balance my time, attamp to at least between
teaching, performaing and writing and publishing my books.
- - - Horn tooting ON I started my working career 30 years ago as a
graphic artist. Then 1987 the plopled a Mac II and Aldus PageMaker on
my desk and said. Here you are going to save us 1,000,000 dollars ayear
in type costs. I was selected to try and automate an 35 artist art
department using Mac computers and desktop publishing back in 1987. One
of the reasons they selected me was because I played guitar. They
thought finger dexterity would help on a keyboard, go figure. But I
them taught my self C++ after learning HyperCard on the Mac and
creating stuff for myself to run the art department.
Then 1st downsizing and a programming job a GE, 2nd downsizing and
programing job at NJ fax firm and learning Java, 3rd downsizing,
programing job back in PA and another downsizing. The Mac projects are
always the first to go. While on the final programming job I was
teaching up to 60 students a week, playing 10 to 12 times a month in a
jazz trio and fitting in freelance graphic arts projects for fellow
musicians and created the JazzGuitarResources.com web site that quickly
go out of hand to its current state of 300 page plus.
The downsizings where never a real problem and the final one I just
went full time music. My heart was just not on the programming. It did
set me up to be able to do my own "hand coded" web sites, create
databases for my music business and the art has made it possible to
publish my books and start to help others go the self publish route.
So from day gigs of programming to 24/7 music and no looking back. I do
miss the crazy money at times they make in programming. I might have
more than one good guitar if I could make that same money today.
I do credit the Mac and programming to turning me on to computer and
the web. It makes, making a pseudo living at music some what easier.
Have meet some great people from around the world, all in the comfort
of in front of my Mac.
- - - Horn tooting OFF ;-)
This my story and I'm sticking to it.
Cool thread.
Curt Sheller
www.JazzGuitarResources.com
Jack Zucker
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Joe Finn
My hat is off to ya'. The ability to integrate two careers is a good trick
and
I'm not sure that I've heard of any body doing it better that you.
.........joe
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Willie K.Yee, M.D.
Powell) wrote:
>"noisyjazzman" <noisyj...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<cbd3f1$r...@odak26.prod.google.com>...
>> What do the non-pro's here do to earn a crust?
>
>I'm a GP - a family medical practitioner. don't know if any other
>medical people in this group though.
I am a psychiatrist full-time.
Willie K. Yee, M.D. http://users.bestweb.net/~wkyee
Developer of Problem Knowledge Couplers for Psychiatry http://www.pkc.com
Webmaster and Guitarist for the Big Blue Big Band http://www.bigbluebigband.org
Greger Hoel
(Willie K.Yee, M.D.) wrote:
>On 24 Jun 2004 00:59:28 -0700, jpo...@ecclesall.demon.co.uk (John
>Powell) wrote:
>
>>"noisyjazzman" <noisyj...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<cbd3f1$r...@odak26.prod.google.com>...
>>> What do the non-pro's here do to earn a crust?
>>
>>I'm a GP - a family medical practitioner. don't know if any other
>>medical people in this group though.
>
>I am a psychiatrist full-time.
Thought about specializing in ruined, frustrated and world weary jazz
guitarists?
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Dave
years in the CLE, Oh area. Some day I need to email Zucker. A lot of
the guys I played with and taught are still very active in northern
Ohio. The guitar kept food on the table while I pursued the flying
gig.
Tone
> Day gig: Music
> Nite Gig: Music
>
> I'm now full time music. I balance my time, attamp to at least between
> teaching, performaing and writing and publishing my books.
Nice post!
Would you mind saying about what percentage of your income comes from
the various musical endeavors? Like how much comes from gigging?
Teaching?
Also, what do you do about health insurance? And do you have kids?
I'm considering heading down a similar path. Thanks.
Pt
Pt
Des Higgins
Currently eccentric millionaire and international playboy.
tomw
dazzh...@hotmail.com says...
> Male supermodel (retired); I was THE face of 1985.
> Currently eccentric millionaire and international playboy.
>
>
>
--
Tom Walls
the guy at the Temple of Zeus
bob r
dazzh...@hotmail.com wrote on 6/28/04 10:37 AM:
> Male supermodel (retired); I was THE face of 1985.
> Currently eccentric millionaire and international playboy.
>
>
Top-secret counterterrorist operative. Can bench-press 400 lbs. Have been
known to take out bad guys by free-falling directly onto them from my
personal jet helicopter. Apart from jazz guitar, am skilled in the art of
killing silently by targeting the cricothyroid membrane. Tips to come on my
website. Buy my CD if you know what's good for you.
--
Bob Russell
http://www.bobrussellguitar.com
CD, "Watch This!", available at:
http://www.cdbaby.com/bobrussell
Lumpy
Living on the Riviera one day,
lying in a Bombay alley next day.
Odds are I won't live to see tomorrow.
Lumpy
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In Your Ears for 40 Years
http://www.lumpymusic.com
Willie K.Yee, M.D.
<gre...@spammersgetbent.net> wrote:
>>I am a psychiatrist full-time.
>
>Thought about specializing in ruined, frustrated and world weary jazz
>guitarists?
Uh, that describes me.