Music symbols, shortcuts
Patrick Hanrahan
symbol.( ų ) I believe it was in a thread about scales built around the
half-dim. cord, whether to use the natural or flat 2nd in the scale. In any
case I thought this was a nice little trick and got me thinking; are there
other "shortcut" for musical notation? I know that you can set up shortcuts
keys in WORD and I've got a few set up already but the don't work in this
Email editor, or text editors like NOTEBOOK. I could write this in WORD and
then copy/past it in to this editor but of cores that more work and I'm not
to sure how they would apear on message bords. It would be nice if there
were some general shortcuts that worked on most editors. The triangle for
major would be nice. The half-dim. symbol higher up like this diminished
symbol ( ° ) would look neater. Any shortcuts to symbols used in standard
notation could be very useful. Thanks in advance for any help.
Ted Vieira
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> From: "Patrick Hanrahan" <pth...@optonline.net>
> Organization: Optimum Online
> Reply-To: "Patrick Hanrahan" <pth...@optonline.net>
> Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar.jazz
> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 21:57:59 GMT
> Subject: Music symbols, shortcuts
>
> A few days ago some one mentioned that alt+0248 will give you a half-dim.
> symbol.( ø ) I believe it was in a thread about scales built around the
Tom Lippincott
>symbol ( ° ) would look neater. Any shortcuts to symbols used in standard
>notation could be very useful. Thanks in advance for any help.
>
thanks for the "ø" tip! How did you get the circle? When I think of all the
time I've wasted typing "m7b5"! (heh)
Tom Lippincott
Guitarist, Composer, Teacher
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John Bilderbeck
windows, just do a help search for character map - it will show all the
symbols and the ALT keystrokes needed to get that symbol.
Unfortunately there is no slash circle symbol higher up, but ALT 0248 ø will
do the job well enough. But it's not really any quicker than typing Bm7b5.
Depends how you well know your way around the keyboard. (Sooner know my way
around the fretboard better.)
Cheers
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"Tom Lippincott" <tomli...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
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Joey Goldstein
John Bilderbeck wrote:
>
> You have to check out the character map of the font you are using. In
> windows, just do a help search for character map - it will show all the
> symbols and the ALT keystrokes needed to get that symbol.
>
> Unfortunately there is no slash circle symbol higher up, but ALT 0248 ø will
> do the job well enough. But it's not really any quicker than typing Bm7b5.
> Depends how you well know your way around the keyboard. (Sooner know my way
> around the fretboard better.)
>
> Cheers
On the Mac we've got:
º (option + 0) That's supposed to look like a 'degree sign'.
as in 60ºF or Cº7
° (option + k) That's a smaller 'degree sign'.
C°7
ø (option o) That's supposed to look like the 1/2 dim sign.
Cø7
Ø (optino + shift + o) That's supposed to look like a bigger 1/2 dim symbol.
CØ7
* (option + j) That's a triangle or delta sign.
C*7
These work in the most common fonts like Courier, Courier New, Times, etc.
Do you guys see the same signs as me?
I think the character maps in both windows and Macintosh systems allow
for these characters in plain ascii text.
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>
> "Tom Lippincott" <tomli...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
> news:20030429210711...@mb-m28.aol.com...
> > The half-dim. symbol higher up like this diminished
> > >symbol ( ° ) would look neater. Any shortcuts to symbols used in
> standard
> > >notation could be very useful. Thanks in advance for any help.
> > >
> >
> > thanks for the "ø" tip! How did you get the circle? When I think of all
> the
> > time I've wasted typing "m7b5"! (heh)
> > Tom Lippincott
> > Guitarist, Composer, Teacher
> > audio samples, articles, CD's at:
> > http://www.tomlippincott.com
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Patrick Hanrahan
They have all the available characters for a couple of different fonts. I
'm sure it's a degree symbol. It was in the normal text, latin-1, 4 row
last column. Then I set up a shortcut key for it. Which is cool when I'm
working in Word but for other plain text editors my shortcut isn't going to
work. I think the Alt+0248 is some kind of machine code that was developed
for DOS because it seems to work in all my text editors. What I was hoping
for was a list of some useful shortcut key or commands. Then I could
install it on my guitar and get ø cords at the touch of a button. As for
faster, it's not. You're still using 4 key strokes, 5 if you count holding
the alt key down. Just thought it would look neater.
PS.
If the installation of the shortcut key works I plan to put in a Anti Suck
knob and a blazing fast, double time Be Bop switch
"Tom Lippincott" <tomli...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
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Patrick Hanrahan
* asterisk. I like the bigger half-dim. symbol thou, somehow it just looks
better.
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Patrick Hanrahan
mean about the fretborad, but that why I come hear, a little Freatborad
theory mixed in with some Keyboard theory.
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RA
"Tom Lippincott" <tomli...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message news:20030429210711...@mb-m28.aol.com...
You can access your character map by selecting:
Start / Programs / Accessories / System Tools / Character Map
I don't know what most of the symbols mean though?
" þ §
regards,
RA
cmaj7dmin7
LNC
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"Patrick Hanrahan" <pth...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> A few days ago some one mentioned that alt+0248 will give you a half-dim.
> symbol.( ø ) I believe it was in a thread about scales built around the
IvanDRodriguez
You can do a START>RUN>CHARMAP to display it
Ivan
Joey Goldstein
Patrick Hanrahan wrote:
>
> Hi Joe. Don't have an Option key. IBM hear so the Option +j came out as a
> * asterisk. I like the bigger half-dim. symbol thou, somehow it just looks
> better.
Yeah, Windows has a different system of key strokes but I think the
characters actually show up in the right spots in plain text with common
fonts.
Did all the special charcters I wrote below show up as I described them
on your screen or not? Just curious.
Joey Goldstein
installed in the Apple Menu.
Launch Key Caps. Choose the font you want to examine. The font's
character/key layout will be shown on a picture of a Mac keyboard. Hold
down the Option key to see the special charcters available in that font.
Hold down Shift to see Caps and some other special characters. Hold down
Option + Shift for still more.
I use a shareware program called FontView that I like quite a bit.
Ted Vieira wrote:
>
> I'd be interested in this kind info for Mac too.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ted Vieira
>
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> > From: "Patrick Hanrahan" <pth...@optonline.net>
> > Organization: Optimum Online
> > Reply-To: "Patrick Hanrahan" <pth...@optonline.net>
> > Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar.jazz
> > Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 21:57:59 GMT
> > Subject: Music symbols, shortcuts
> >
> > A few days ago some one mentioned that alt+0248 will give you a half-dim.
> > symbol.( ų ) I believe it was in a thread about scales built around the
> > half-dim. cord, whether to use the natural or flat 2nd in the scale. In any
> > case I thought this was a nice little trick and got me thinking; are there
> > other "shortcut" for musical notation? I know that you can set up shortcuts
> > keys in WORD and I've got a few set up already but the don't work in this
> > Email editor, or text editors like NOTEBOOK. I could write this in WORD and
> > then copy/past it in to this editor but of cores that more work and I'm not
> > to sure how they would apear on message bords. It would be nice if there
> > were some general shortcuts that worked on most editors. The triangle for
> > major would be nice. The half-dim. symbol higher up like this diminished
> > symbol ( ° ) would look neater. Any shortcuts to symbols used in standard
> > notation could be very useful. Thanks in advance for any help.
> >
> >
--
Ernie Zimmerman
>
> Did all the special charcters I wrote below show up as I described them
> on your screen or not? Just curious.
>
> > > * (option + j) That's a triangle or delta sign.
> > > C*7
> > >
I'm using Netscape on Windows NT ... everything worked except this one which looks
like an asterisk to me.
- Ernie
Joey Goldstein
Hmm. Thanks.
Jurupari
try this:
http://tlt.its.psu.edu/suggestions/international/accents/codealt.html
żmuy cool, no?
Kevin Van Sant
message <20030430214642...@mb-m17.aol.com> :
>>I don't know what most of the symbols mean though?
>
>try this:
>
>http://tlt.its.psu.edu/suggestions/international/accents/codealt.html
>
>¿muy cool, no?
>
thanks for that link Cliff, I've been looking for a simple way to do
this: © forever.
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Ted Vieira
"Pop-character" or something like that that I used to use. I just have a
hard time finding fonts that have music characters that I can use in a text
program. I've got my musical fonts from Allegra but the leading seems to
make them somewhat un-usable in text programs.
Anyone know any good fonts that have these musical characters in them that
you can use well with standard text in a text program?
Ted Vieira
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Joey Goldstein
noteheads etc. and text within the same font try this link:
<http://members.ozemail.com.au/~mhindson/fonts_and_utilities.html>
Times+Musical Symbols is the font you want if you're on a Mac.
For PC there is a link to a font called Bach further down the page.
I found these fonts through links posted on Coda's (the finale people)
web site.
Using Fontographer I made up my own version of the Times font plus some
musical characters, with better character spacing for my uses than the
Times+Musical Symbols. If you're on a Mac I could email it to you if you like.
Otherwise if you're trying to use musical symbols from a music font like
Sonata or Petrucci within an english sentence mainly written in a text
font like Times or Helvetica you have to insert the individual charcters
from the music font and this throws off things like line spacing,
character spacing and kerning. Doesn't look right. Times+Musical or
something like it is the answer.
RA
> Times+Musical Symbols is the font you want if you're on a Mac.
> For PC there is a link to a font called Bach further down the page.
> I found these fonts through links posted on Coda's (the finale people)
> web site.
For those wishing to use these symbols..
remember that people can only see your font,
if they also have the font installed on their system,
otherwise a default font will appear, which might not
have the capabilities to display the desired symbols.
If you are using the font to access the symbols so that you
can incorporate them into something like .gif's, .jpg's,
a Flash presentation or various other softwares,
then it's not a problem. People will be able to see the symbols,
even if they don't have the required font.
regards,
RA
Jurupari
>this: © forever.
me too!
John Bilderbeck
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Ted Vieira
> From: Joey Goldstein <nos...@nowhere.net>
> Organization: Bell Sympatico
> Reply-To: joegoldATsympaticoDOTca
> Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar.jazz
> Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 12:07:09 -0400
> Subject: Re: Music symbols, shortcuts
>
> If you need music characters like natural signs, sharps, flats,
> noteheads etc. and text within the same font try this link:
> <http://members.ozemail.com.au/~mhindson/fonts_and_utilities.html>
>
> Times+Musical Symbols is the font you want if you're on a Mac.
Fantastic! Thanks very much Joey, I just downloaded the font. I've been
looking for something like this for quite sometime.
Ted
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> remember that people can only see your font,
> if they also have the font installed on their system,
> otherwise a default font will appear, which might not
> have the capabilities to display the desired symbols.
Yeah, that's true. I just wanted a font in which I could use in doing books
or papers for students... that kind of thing.
Ted Vieira
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RA
"Ted Vieira" <con...@tedvieira.com> wrote in message news:BAD779F9.16EF8%con...@tedvieira.com...
> > For those wishing to use these symbols..
> > remember that people can only see your font,
> > if they also have the font installed on their system,
> > otherwise a default font will appear, which might not
> > have the capabilities to display the desired symbols.
>
>
>
> Yeah, that's true. I just wanted a font in which I could use in doing books
> or papers for students... that kind of thing.
>
> Ted Vieira
No problem there.
I downloaded the 'Bach' font and I checked the file Charmap.doc ,
before I installed the fonts. It appeard as a page full of WingDings,
or some such funny symbols. After I installed the font I went back
and there they were.. all the notes, rests, clefs, etc.
So, if we use them on a webpage.. that's what most everyone will probably see.
The WingDings.
regards,
RA
Joey Goldstein
Someone reading a web page has to use the fonts that are on their system
not the ones on yours. Most web browsers use a system with 1 propotional
font and one non proportional font as the 2 main fonts. Most folks use a
versions of Times for their proportional font and Courier for their non
propotional font.
If when using Bach you type alt + B to get a flat sign and try to use
that in a web page the people viewing that page will see what you would
normlly see if you had on Times assigned on your system and had typed
alt + b.
To get pages that you typed with Bach (or sim) into a web page, with all
the special characters intact, you will need to save the page as a
graphic, probably a jpeg, and embed that graphic in your web page.