So, tone really is in the hands, huh?

[oasysco]

Well, it certainly does, if this guy can make what looks like a punk
rock guitar sound this good: http://www.lornelofsky.com/audio/1.mov
Greg

[pmfan57]

Nonsense; that's an eighties Roadstar (or related) Ibanez. At the time
Ibanez was making the best production guitars in the world (far
superior to Fender and Gibson). That particular model guitar played
like a dream (much, much better than a strat) and sounded great too.
Although Lorne would sound good on almost any guitar.

[Steve Modica]

Tuck Andrus had a story on his site about being poor and using crappy guitars
and one day loaning one to a much better player than himself. He said the guy
made it sound amazing and he was convinced ever after that tone was in the hands.

That being said, I think there are few people in the world that spend more time
and energy than Tuck on getting his tone :)

[fullcity]

> That being said, I think there are few people in the world that spend
more time
> and energy than Tuck on getting his tone :)

Hmmm... perhaps from a technical perspective. But once he found it, he
wrote a treatise about it and then stuck with it thenceforth! He has
essentially two guitars, one for recording and one for playing (both
old L-5CES that have had the electronics modified).

This is quite different than those of us who constantly change, tweak,
alter, augment, and replace our setup - guitars, amps and all!

Roger

[oasysco]

I think you're missing the point - whatever the guitar it 'aint a jazz
box.

Greg

[jazzy]

Uzytkownik "Steve Modica" <svmodic...@comcast.net> napisal w wiadomosci
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> Tuck Andrus

Do you mean "Tuck Andress"? :)

--
jazzy [Krzysiek Inglik]
http://GuitarZone.org
GG # 7101960

[fullcity]

> That being said, I think there are few people in the world that spend
more time
> and energy than Tuck on getting his tone :)

Hmmm... perhaps from a technical perspective. But once he found it, he

wrote a treatise about it and then stuck with it thenceforth! He has

essentially two guitars, one for recording and one for touring (both

[ott...@hotmail.com]

Lorne has also played a Les Paul and a Tele, and sounded the same on
them too.
Interesting that he seems to be using a Pick, I've always seen him play
fingerstyle!.

BG

[thom_j.]

"jazzy" <jazzy...@op.pl_WYTNIJ> wrote in message
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>
> Uzytkownik "Steve Modica" <svmodic...@comcast.net> napisal w
> wiadomosci news:VrmdncS1t9E...@comcast.com...
>
>> Tuck Andrus
>
> Do you mean "Tuck Andress"? :)

He told me to just call him Tuck, cuz' there aint no other...
plethora of useless knowledge tee'..

[thom_j.]

<ott...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Lorne has also played a Les Paul and a Tele, and sounded the same on
> them too.

One thing fer' sure he never needs a bazillion$ Boutique archtop geetar.
& guess'what Greg? he aint never de'constructed none neither! ooops
my bad tee'... 8^)~~'

[Kurt Shapiro]

Looks like he's not using stock pickups, but rather some kind of double-rail
humbuckers. Some fat flatwounds and the right humbuckers and amp, I think a
lot of solid-bodies could sound pretty jazzy. I've thought about setting up
a solid-body for jazz just so I don't have to deal with the feedback issues
and acoustic sound. Actually, before I butchered my Schecter 006 into a
franken-bass-guitar combo, it had a really terrific fat jazz sound for a
solid body. It might be sold as rock machine, but the mahogany body with a
light finish and the fat humbuckers really made it sound pretty jazzy
through a clean tube amp. I might even get another one just to use as a
jazz box.

I don't like a lot of acoustic sound coming through, and on quiet gigs a
loud hollow-body can really penetrate.

But, yeah, Lofsky would still be a bitch even if he was playing a plexiglass
B.C. Rich Warlock.

"oasysco" <oas...@cox.net> wrote in message
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[fullcity]

The jazz guitar Mystique - and it truly is that - is perhaps more to
blame for the obsession with big archtop guitars than anything else. We
love the tradition, beauty, and glorious girth of these hollow f-holed
beasts. And they sound and feel so damn good too! But a lot of it is
just preoccupation with aesthetics. There is no true basis to the myth
that one needs a big bodied, hollow, arched top guitar to play jazz and
be 'real'.

This is particularly true for the classic electric jazz sound, with
flatwound strings and a relatively dark tone. This can be achieved on
practically any electric guitar with humbuckers if you string it with
flats and use the neck pup. True, it's less convincing on a Strat - but
again, *playing jazz* is an expression of musical language, which
transcends the voice speaking it.

So we're dealing more with expectation and tradition than NEED when we
talk about using certain guitars for any particular genre of music. I
am a somewhat conspicuous consumer when it comes to guitars, but
nonetheless I stand by the assertion that I sound "like me" on any of
my various axes. It's more about what I *prefer* to play than what I
*need* to play.

Roger

[thom_j.]

"fullcity" wrote:
> It's more about what I *prefer* to play than what I
> *need* to play.
> Roger

Of course it is & this is true with basically everyone....
tee'..

[pcr...@yorku.ca]

Except Lorne uses light roundwound strings, plain G. He has changed
pickups a couple of times since I've known him, but they are active
low-noise pickups and I believe he has a mid-boost circuit in the
electronics. He plays with an extremely light touch, lots of muting,
and typically with long fingernails and a thumbpick. And he likes to
use solid state amps.

[tomb...@jhu.edu]

A solid-body and an archtop may sound the same from the audience, but
they feel a lot different to the player, and that affects the music
that comes out.

[Jonathan Giblin]

Last time I was in Toronto I arranged a lesson with Lofsky. I didn't have my
guitar with me, so he gave me that one to play. I can tell you there ain't
anything magical about it. It's an ok Ibanez strat and the EMG pickups sound
good, but there are any number of guitars I'd choose over that one for jazz.

Personally, I just think Lofsky makes it work for him.

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[Nil]

On 31 Jan 2005, "fullcity" <nine...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1107179828.5...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:

(re. Tuck Andress:)

> Hmmm... perhaps from a technical perspective. But once he found
> it, he wrote a treatise about it and then stuck with it
> thenceforth! He has essentially two guitars, one for recording and
> one for playing (both old L-5CES that have had the electronics
> modified).

When I saw Tuck & Patti a few weeks ago, he was playing this funny
small solid-body guitar. Kind of like a Steinberger in that the tuners
were on the body. I assume he uses it for ease of travel. It sounded
good.

[Sotos]

Would very much appreciate hearing more about their performance. Which
songs did they play, how'd they sound, was he playing through a guitar amp
(that you could tell) or PA system? Inquiring minds and all that.

Thanks,

Sotos

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[Nil]

On 06 Feb 2005, "Sotos" <spa...@cox.net> wrote in
news:P0sNd.55248$jn.1888@lakeread06:

> Would very much appreciate hearing more about their performance.
> Which songs did they play, how'd they sound, was he playing
> through a guitar amp (that you could tell) or PA system?
> Inquiring minds and all that.

I was misrememering a bit - the show was last October, and now I'm
getting a bit fuzzy on the details...

It was at a club called Scullers in Allston, Mass. (part of Boston).
Short set, as there was another later show. I'm forgetting the songs -
Patti did here shoes song, Tuck did a solo. It was mostly their kissy-
huggy love songs. Very nice, great playing. It looked like they were
having fun.

Tuck had this small solid-body guitar that I assume was custom made for
him. His whole amplification system was in a suitcase-like floor box. I
couldn't see much of what was in it... a volume pedal, and what looked
to be a stomp-box or two that he never touched. That box of stuff was
connected to a small rack at the back of the stage that held the PA
which amplified the vox and guitar to a pair of smallish speakers. It's
a very compact setup, and obviously made for quick 'n light travel.

[John Doe]

Nil <redn...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote in news:Xns95F5A437E793Bnilch1
@216.196.97.136:

> On 06 Feb 2005, "Sotos" <spa...@cox.net> wrote in
> news:P0sNd.55248$jn.1888@lakeread06:
>
>> Would very much appreciate hearing more about their performance.
>> Which songs did they play, how'd they sound, was he playing
>> through a guitar amp (that you could tell) or PA system?
>> Inquiring minds and all that.
>
> I was misrememering a bit - the show was last October, and now I'm
> getting a bit fuzzy on the details...

<...>

> Tuck had this small solid-body guitar that I assume was custom made for
> him. His whole amplification system was in a suitcase-like floor box.

I was at the last show on Sunday of that run at Sculler's. He
mentioned to the audience that it was his emergency backup guitar,
that the L5 had been picking up a radio station.

And the guitar really did sound excellent, I didn't think he lost
much tone by using it.

As amazing as Tuck's playing is, as I listen to Tuck and Patti
over time the real delight is the near-perfect musical converation
between them.

[tomb...@jhu.edu]

A Frameworks, perhaps? I've been lusting
after a nylon-string for a long time,
but with the dollar so far down against
the euro, it's not going to happen anytime
soon:

http://www.frameworks-guitars.com/

[John Doe]

"tomb...@jhu.edu" <tomb...@jhu.edu> wrote in news:1107733631.539048.20810
@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:

>
> A Frameworks, perhaps? I've been lusting
> after a nylon-string for a long time,
> but with the dollar so far down against
> the euro, it's not going to happen anytime
> soon:
>
> http://www.frameworks-guitars.com/

Not a frameworks, it had a compact solid-body body. I would've
guessed a custom made item.