Tried a Bose Personal Amplification System
Jack A. Zucker
Clarus so for those of you who find the Clarus too dark, this might be
an interesting system. It also looked somewhat bulky but perhaps when
it's broken down, it would be portable.
I found it dry, dull and lifeless. It didn't sound sound significantly
different than playing through a typical 2 or 3 way speaker system.
For example, the JBL Eon system has a similar vibe...
Jaz
Pt
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Is this the new one that supposedly has 360 degrees of sound?
Pt
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Pat Smith
Mine isn't hissy
All PA's tend to have a dry sound
try Bass, vocal, acoustic guitar, keyboard through it, it will sound
quite natural. It gives you what you put in, solid bodies are dry,
perhaps archtops would work well.
It really does work differently from a standard system...honest. I have
A-B-ed with the Eon and the Bose is way more natural, and way less
directional.
It does require a rethink from traditional systems. Also the regular EQ
is flat. Try it with EQ #35, it sounds a bit more guitary. Admitedly
solid body guitars do need some help, but they always sound better with
tubes. A preamp is probably the way to go.
I am happy to answer any specific questions. Also you can talk directly
with the Bose team that invented it at
http://www.bose.com/controller;jsessionid=1qU8Kg4ZIWieSkkNGBIP8fXjwlFLm1A2MW24ubgzSIdDwOSKuS3Q!501445624!-1333970771?event=VIEW_STATIC_PAGE_EVENT&url=/musicians/conversations/index.jsp&pageName=/musicians/index.jsp
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Jurupari
Right - they're sound support - you'd need to frontload the sound, like use
that tube preamp into the thing, or go in from the back of your amp and point
it towards you for a monitor and spread the outs, uh, out.
A fifteen band graph would be good for the main outs since that will help voice
various rooms by damping the overactive frequencies, usually around 250 and 4k
hz.
I don't know anything about that one, but a small club pa with inputs for bass
and guitar amps is one way of distributing the sound you get on stage without
hitting feedback levels.
Clif
Pat Smith
effects from the room it's in. Because of it's tube shape (you'd have to
ask the Bose guys for details) it doesn't really project above or below
the tube. So you don't get ceiling reflections. I say once again that I
really believe this will change the way club bands make music.
Max Leggett
>The Bose is damn near feedback proof. Also it is fairly immune to
>effects from the room it's in. Because of it's tube shape
Apostrophe alert! Apostrophe alert! All hands on deck!! Number one
gun, fire when ready!!!
Greg D
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Is this the thing that looks like a mic stand or a stick with 150 degrees
of spread?
Greg
Greg D
Isn't that thing expensive? LIke $1600 per stick? Not bad for one player.
but a whole bar band? Whew.
Greg
Bob R
mleg...@nospam.ca wrote on 11/6/03 7:16 PM:
Since the NG seems to have been overrun by rabid linguists of late, here's
my contribution:
http://www.suepalmer.co.uk/apostrophes.php
Sorry; all you rabid programmer geeks will have to amuse yourselves in other
threads. :-)
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Jack A. Zucker
> is flat. Try it with EQ #35, it sounds a bit more guitary. Admitedly
> solid body guitars do need some help, but they always sound better with
> tubes. A preamp is probably the way to go.
That's exactly the preset I used. Tinny was how it sounded. I'm sure it
sounds better with a tube preamp though. Reverb would help too.
How much is it?
Jack A. Zucker
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> The Bose is damn near feedback proof. Also it is fairly immune to
I won't believe that until I try it. Folks said the same thing about the
Clarus/RE combination and that was patently false.
Max Leggett
>in article 3faae42f....@News.CIS.DFN.DE, Max Leggett at
>mleg...@nospam.ca wrote on 11/6/03 7:16 PM:
>
>> Apostrophe alert! Apostrophe alert! All hands on deck!! Number one
>> gun, fire when ready!!!
>>
>Since the NG seems to have been overrun by rabid linguists of late, here's
>my contribution:
Hey - I ain't no linguist.
Bob R
mleg...@nospam.ca wrote on 11/6/03 11:11 PM:
But you're OK with the "rabid" part? :-)
Pt
wrote:
>
>Hey - I ain't no linguist.
>
Leave sex out of this!!
Pt
Bob R
wrote on 11/6/03 11:53 PM:
He didn't say he wasn't a cunning linguist...
Pat Smith
What can I say. I have one. We stand in front of four of them with open
mics and it does not feedback.
end of story.
Pat Smith
most case the back line amps too. I don't know how much you guitar amp
cost but there are some pretty expensive amps not to mention PAs. The
sound quality of these is so good. We were using the smallest Yorkville
PA and it weren't enough. The Bose is great.
Pat Smith
Greger Hoel
>in article e79mqvkv439h01a3j...@4ax.com, Pt at P...@home.com
>wrote on 11/6/03 11:53 PM:
>
>> On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 04:11:36 GMT, mleg...@nospam.ca (Max Leggett)
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hey - I ain't no linguist.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Leave sex out of this!!
>>
>> Pt
>
>He didn't say he wasn't a cunning linguist...
I think it's firmly established by the whole "its" debacle that our
most cunning linguist, a master of many tongues, is Keith.
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and I don't find mine nasally in the least. We each have different
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Max Leggett
>in article 3fab1b53....@News.CIS.DFN.DE, Max Leggett at
>mleg...@nospam.ca wrote on 11/6/03 11:11 PM:
>>>> Apostrophe alert! Apostrophe alert! All hands on deck!! Number one
>>>> gun, fire when ready!!!
>>>>
>>> Since the NG seems to have been overrun by rabid linguists of late, here's
>>> my contribution:
>>
>> Hey - I ain't no linguist.
>>
>But you're OK with the "rabid" part? :-)
I've been thrown out of better bars than this!!!
Max Leggett
>in article e79mqvkv439h01a3j...@4ax.com, Pt at P...@home.com
>wrote on 11/6/03 11:53 PM:
>
>> On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 04:11:36 GMT, mleg...@nospam.ca (Max Leggett)
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey - I ain't no linguist.
>>
>> Leave sex out of this!!
>>
>> Pt
>
>He didn't say he wasn't a cunning linguist...
No, but I've pulled a cunning stunt or two on occasion.
Jurupari
spoken like a diplomatic person who truly perceives the poorly understood
distinctions between a band of wily pygmies and the female participants in
the Boston marathon. You're obviously presidential fodder, er timber! except
for that 'canada' thing, of course...
Jack A. Zucker
The other issue is that both of us are guilty of raving about stuff
and then selling it a few months later! :-)
Face it, we're both gear-sluts but I think your budget is bigger than
mine! :-)
Mike O'Malley
bass, in bars and small clubs, with bass run through a backline amp
and the singer the only instrument in the PA. Is this stick and box
supposed to replace my bass amp, a 1200 watt 2x12 and sometimes 2x12
and 2x10 rig? Even if use a smaller rig, say, a 350 watt SWR redhead
combo, 2 10s--is this going to get anywhere near that? I mean the bass
unit has two 6/12 inch speakers--and how many watts?
And the cost--2, 299 for the recommended bass rig, which is two of the
sub units and the stick. That's a lot of dough for what looks to be
(but may not be ) a WAY underpowered, insufficient rig. hen again, I
love the idea that it mght be possible. It looks like it'd be REALLY
cool for upright gigs, where I generally use a single 1x10 combo amp.
Bass is a different animal--I've played many bar gigs with a 35 watt,
1 15 inch Ampeg B-15, but if you want clean tones you need a lot of
juice I'd really lie to try one, but 2,299! I could get a really first
rate bass rig for that, a state of the art dedicated bass rig. My
current default rig (qsc plx 1212, sans amp rbi preamp, ampeg
portabass 2x12) cost well under $1000. I can't figure out who they are
marketing this for.
Pat Smith
I guess I have become the torch carrier for Bose. This is a whole
system, it isn't only replacing your backline amp. It also replaces the
mains and monitors etc. It has two channels with treb mid bass vol and
master for both on a wired remote.
Now maybe you only use a Bass rig and don't ever carry a PA too. In that
case it would be up to you to decide what works for you.
Pat Smith
about raving and selling. My main guitar, a Tom Holmes, I have owned
since I bought it new in 1980. Amps, I am always hunting for. I have
used my AER for about five years now. I am also very happy with my Carr
amp and I may yet get their Mercury model too. I recently sold (or am
selling)off all my extra gear, or what I consider extra, I still have
quite a few guitars but I only kept the ones I actually play. The point
about the gear thing is that we are always searching for a sound, and
the more styles you play the more tools you need to do it.
The Bose is a different issue. In case you missed my earlier post
(10/15) my band is one of 24 picked by Bose to be the first bands to use
this equipment. Bose supplied it to us along with a lovely trip to Bose
HQ in Massachusetts. I really would not rave about this if I didn't
believe in it. It may be a hard sell for Bose because nobody believes it
will do what they say, I wouldn't have. But, I have been using it on the
gig and have gotten nothing but comments about how great it sounds. I
think it really doesn't shine till you get it on the gig. Note, if you
buy it direct from Bose on the website you get 90 days to decide if you
like it, so really nothing to lose. Even Center gives you 30 days.
Anyway, I always try to add use what works for you when I comment on
gear. Sorry if I seemed naggy about it
Michael Ellenberger
Greg D wrote:
>
> Is this the thing that looks like a mic stand or a stick with 150 degrees
> of spread?
>
> Greg
You can hang your coat on it at the gig ;-)
Myth
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I've heard another version where instead of a female marathon-runner, it was
a woman with a "social" disease...
>
>
Jurupari
>a woman with a "social" disease...
there but for the grace of God goes Carole King, if you call out her name,
wherever she is....
Myth
Hot or cold...?
Greg D
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Now yer talkin' !
Greg