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brent

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Jan 9, 2002, 8:56:43 PM1/9/02
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Im learning this tune from the realbook, but unfortunately they missed out
the bridge part:

E- A7 D7 D7 G7 G7 C7 C7

shall i just do my own bit ? or is it worthwhile transcribing parkers lines?
its a great tune although maybe litle above my playing level, so Im slowing
it down with a program called amazing slow downer.

any comments welcome!
thanks

Brent


Bob Russell

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Jan 9, 2002, 12:13:10 AM1/9/02
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brent wrote:

> shall i just do my own bit ? or is it worthwhile transcribing parkers lines?

Do both! ;)
-- Bob Russell
http://www.uncwil.edu/people/russellr

.MAtt

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Jan 9, 2002, 3:15:20 AM1/9/02
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You should also check out Master P's version...

:)

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Dan Adler

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Jan 9, 2002, 8:09:35 AM1/9/02
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"brent" <jazzy...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<YYP_7.460$Qz1....@news.xtra.co.nz>...

> Im learning this tune from the realbook, but unfortunately they missed out
> the bridge part:
>
> E- A7 D7 D7 G7 G7 C7 C7
>
> shall i just do my own bit ? or is it worthwhile transcribing parkers lines?
> its a great tune although maybe litle above my playing level, so Im slowing
> it down with a program called amazing slow downer.
>

The only guitar recording of that tune that I know is Jim Hall on
"Live" (not available on CD) - and he plays Bird's bridge note for
note. Transcribing that bridge segment from Bird is very worthwhile
because it's nowhere near straight eighth notes!

-Dan
http://danadler.com

brent

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Jan 10, 2002, 6:20:18 AM1/10/02
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> You should also check out Master P's version...

Whos Master P?


brent

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Jan 10, 2002, 6:25:46 AM1/10/02
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> > Im learning this tune from the realbook, but unfortunately they missed
out
> > the bridge part:
> >
> > E- A7 D7 D7 G7 G7 C7 C7
> >
> > shall i just do my own bit ? or is it worthwhile transcribing parkers
lines?
> > its a great tune although maybe litle above my playing level, so Im
slowing
> > it down with a program called amazing slow downer.
> >
>
> The only guitar recording of that tune that I know is Jim Hall on
> "Live" (not available on CD) - and he plays Bird's bridge note for
> note. Transcribing that bridge segment from Bird is very worthwhile
> because it's nowhere near straight eighth notes!

thanks, Im always on the lookout for guitar versions of C.P songs, as I
haven't heard much yet (I've got Joe Pass doing Relaxin at the Camarillo on
CD which got me started on the Parker buzz) - im still building up my CD/Mp3
collection.

brent


duffy doherty

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Jan 9, 2002, 11:29:16 AM1/9/02
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Brent,
The actual bridge on the sheet music is;
E-7 A7 D7 D7 G7 G7 G-7 C7. You obviously have good ears. To echo some of the
other comments, do both your "own bit" and transcribe Parker's lines. Also
tell us more about the "Amazing slow downer".

Duffy

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Joe Finn

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Jan 9, 2002, 12:25:24 PM1/9/02
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Brent, as suggested here by others you will not want to neglect listening
closely to recordings of this tune or any other tune you are trying to
learn. This is the way to really understand the style and the nuances that
don't make it on to the printed page. For Scrapple recordings by Charlie
Parker and Jim Hall will top the list. ...joe

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Bob Russell

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Jan 9, 2002, 12:41:28 PM1/9/02
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brent wrote:

> > You should also check out Master P's version...
>
> Whos Master P?

Master P notwithstanding, you might also check out the version of
Scrapple on Paul Motian's "Electric Bebop Band" CD, featuring Kurt
Rosenwinkel and Brad Shepik on guitars. Not "traditional", but worth
hearing!

-- Bob R.
"...I have little patience with born-again beboppers." - Jim Hall


Tom Jaffe

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Jan 9, 2002, 12:16:19 PM1/9/02
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George Benson does Billies Bounce in a great modern bop style on an old
Verve label recording (it's been reisuued on a few CD's). Wes did Au Privave
with Cannonball Adderley on the Poll Winners album. If you check out CDNow
and enter some Parker tune names under "song title, I am sure a few
guitarists recordings will show up."

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brent

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Jan 11, 2002, 2:11:16 AM1/11/02
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> Brent,
> The actual bridge on the sheet music is;
> E-7 A7 D7 D7 G7 G7 G-7 C7. You obviously have good ears. To echo some of
the
> other comments, do both your "own bit" and transcribe Parker's lines. Also
> tell us more about the "Amazing slow downer".
>
> Duffy


Amazing Slow Downer is a great program which slows down a wav/mp3/cd audio
file without changing pitch. Theres quite a few of these types of programs
out there for this purpose - I found A.S.D the best because my 450mhz
computer didn't stutter at all while slowing down music. You can even change
the pitch, in case you wanna learn in a different key. I haven't used it
much yet, but its great for learning licks that would be otherwise
impossible for beginning jazzer like myself to learn. Theres another one
called transcribe! which anaylises what pitch is being played which is
helpful for figuring out chords. I got both of these off www.Hitsquad.com
go to software music machine)


Although I like using tools like this to learn, they can be bit
istracting - its sometimes more productive to rely on the ears! for
"scrapple" however Im gonna transcribe what I can using a.s.d - then use my
ears to make my own.

Brent


Dan Adler

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Jan 10, 2002, 10:27:45 AM1/10/02
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"brent" <jazzy...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<PFd%7.921$Qz1.1...@news.xtra.co.nz>...

> Amazing Slow Downer is a great program which slows down a wav/mp3/cd audio
> file without changing pitch. Theres quite a few of these types of programs
> out there for this purpose - I found A.S.D the best because my 450mhz
> computer didn't stutter at all while slowing down music. You can even change
> the pitch, in case you wanna learn in a different key. I haven't used it
> much yet, but its great for learning licks that would be otherwise
> impossible for beginning jazzer like myself to learn. Theres another one
> called transcribe! which anaylises what pitch is being played which is
> helpful for figuring out chords. I got both of these off www.Hitsquad.com
> go to software music machine)

I've recently purchased Transcriber from http://reedkotler.com and
that works as advertised as well! I actually get a kick out of
listening to solos at 1/2 speed, not necessarily transcribing it.
Listening at 1/2 or 2/3 speed lets you hear the lines more clearly and
also you can really hear how good the player's time is.

-Dan
http://danadler.com

Jonathan Byrd

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Jan 10, 2002, 11:29:28 AM1/10/02
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Joe Finn wrote:
>
> For Scrapple recordings by Charlie
> Parker and Jim Hall will top the list. ...joe

I like Dexter Gordon's version on Our Man In Paris.
--
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(208) 282-4256 Pocatello, Idaho USA

Garry Hansen

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Jan 10, 2002, 9:47:01 PM1/10/02
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"Joe Finn" <J...@joefinn.net> wrote in message
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> Brent, as suggested here by others you will not want to neglect listening
> closely to recordings of this tune or any other tune you are trying to
> learn. This is the way to really understand the style and the nuances that
> don't make it on to the printed page. For Scrapple recordings by Charlie
> Parker and Jim Hall will top the list. ...joe

And on the Live! LP Jim plays a lift of Parker's bridge.

Regards,

Garry Hansen
Charlie Christian: Legend of the Jazz Guitar
http://www3.nbnet.nb.ca/hansen/Charlie


John Dahlstedt

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Jan 11, 2002, 9:00:08 AM1/11/02
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Dittos on Dexter Gordon's version of Scrapple on Our Man in Paris. A most
memorable solo!

Tom Lippincott

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Jan 11, 2002, 5:21:55 PM1/11/02
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>Amazing Slow Downer is a great program which slows down a wav/mp3/cd audio
>file without changing pitch.

thanks for clarifying; I thought you were talking about a drummer.

Tom Lippincott
Guitarist, Composer, Teacher
audio samples, articles, CD's at:
http://www.tomlippincott.com

Max Leggett

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Jan 11, 2002, 5:34:56 PM1/11/02
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>>Amazing Slow Downer is a great program which slows down a wav/mp3/cd audio
>>file without changing pitch.
>
>thanks for clarifying; I thought you were talking about a drummer.

I thought perhaps he'd run across my ex.

Thom j.

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Jan 12, 2002, 3:31:38 PM1/12/02
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Gee I thought it was my Ex!! Max are in husband-in'laws together? :)

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