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CRASS

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Hi all
Anyone out there familiar with a jazz guitar tuition book
attributed to Eddie Lang? I have heard of it but cannot find
any information. Any help appreciated.
bye


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tedg...@my-deja.com

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In article <169b2ded...@usw-ex0108-060.remarq.com>,
Eddie Lang wrote two books in the 1930's but they've been long out of
print. If you're really (and I mean really) lucky you can find an
original or copies of either one (or both) in fake book format. Either
way it's a crap shoot.

I've seen both and they were written by Eddie with another guitar
player and the ideas are exactly what they teach these days:

cycle of thirds, fourths and fifths
chord substitution
melody studies
Scales
Arpeggios
and much, much more

These are truly fantastic books, especially considering that without
Eddie Lang the guitar would not be anywhere near as advanced as it is.
He was as much of a virtuoso as Segovia. I'll take that one step
further, Eddie's better than Segovia for the simple fact that Eddie
improvised [emphasis added]. He wrote the book on syncopated guitar,
chord substitution on guitar, the whole deal.

Happy Hunting!

Ted


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JAlbin1916

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CRASS <crass_ma...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>Hi all
>Anyone out there familiar with a jazz guitar tuition book
>attributed to Eddie Lang? I have heard of it but cannot find
>any information. Any help appreciated.
>bye
>
>

I just looked up Eddie Lang on Altavista. There are literally dozens of links,
including biographies, discographies, etc.. I didn't look at too many of the
pages, so I can't be sure if the book you're looking for is referenced in any
of them, but my guess is you should be able to find what your looking for
through one of these links.
-John
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PicLands

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Sep 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/25/99
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I"ve had a few books by Eddie Lang mostly fingerboard harmony and method books.
As a kid I learned some of his solos.Don't recall any Jazz books.
Arnie L.

Plectrum Brass

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Sep 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/29/99
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> Eddie Lang wrote two books in the 1930's but they've been long out of
> print. If you're really (and I mean really) lucky you can find an
> original or copies of either one (or both) in fake book format. Either
> way it's a crap shoot.
>
> I've seen both and they were written by Eddie with another guitar
> player >
> Ted

May be of some interest to know that the other guitar player is Dave
Berendt.
I own the two books, traslated in Italian and published by Edizioni Curci.
They are pretty good indeed but, to me, are more a Dave Berendt ghost
writing job than Eddie's.

As you certainly know there are many doubts about sight-reading skills and
overall music knowledge of Eddie: someone wrote also that he carried the
entire Paul Whiteman's library in the rear of a business card, full of
little strange signs that meaned something to him only.
Anyway he never missed a break or a fill.

His invaluable work in developing jazz guitar has its roots more in his
*super* 'musical ear' than in his theory knowledge.
As a child he started on violin (with his pal Joe Venuti) and, following an
Italian tradition, they both started with 'solfeggio' to learn
sight-reading: it seems that Eddie was so able to 'catch' immediately the
melodies that soon forgot the printed music.
Another evidence of his excellent 'ear' lays in the wonderful duets he made
with Joe Venuti, full of breaks, tricks and counterpoints that they played
'on the spot' (at least so say their contemporaries) with no reharsals at
all.

The same happened with Joe 'King' Oliver and his pupil Louis Armstrong...
but this is another story.

Greetings from Milano !
Nino

P.S.: could we found an Eddie Lang Guild ?


tedg...@my-deja.com

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In article <7sskl1$j8b$1...@nslave1.tin.it>,
Hi!

You're correct on your statements. I usually try and make sure that I
comment on the "little guys" but in this instance I forgot and I thank
you for letting his name be known. Eddie's superb ear *was* his gift
and definately not his knowledge of music theory. The question about
the book should be: "Did Eddie get together with David and work out
ideas together or was the book essentially David's and they put Eddie's
names on it to make it sell." Either way, the book is important in the
history of the developement of the guitar in general, and in jazz in
particular.

I would love to get an Eddie Lang Guild or forum here at Deja.com. I
think that he is largely forgotten by todays guitarists and it's a
shame. I was listen to a version on "Bye Bye Blues" with Trumbauer on
sax and Eddie was just swinging! Any ideas how we can get this going?

I also understand that there is an Eddie Lang festival held each year
in Italy. I'm interested in learning more about it, seeing pictures if
anyone has any, and would also like some Eddie Lang transcriptions if
possible!

Cheers,

Plectrum Brass

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Sep 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/30/99
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<tedg...@my-deja.com> wrote in message 7stbc2$7bi$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...

>
> I would love to get an Eddie Lang Guild or forum here at Deja.com. I
think that he is largely forgotten by todays guitarists and it's a shame. I
was listen to a version on "Bye Bye Blues" with Trumbauer on sax and Eddie
was just swinging! Any ideas how we can get this going?
>
> I also understand that there is an Eddie Lang festival held each year in
Italy. I'm interested in learning more about it, seeing pictures if anyone
has any, and would also like some Eddie Lang transcriptions if possible!
>
> Cheers,
> Ted


The festival exists and is held in Monteroduni, the little town that the
Massaro family left to emigrate in USA at the beginning of this century (or
a little earlier).
I will look into the Italian WEB sites to find more informations.
Anyway I've read that it is a Jazz Fest dedicated to guitar players no
matter how 'modern' they are.
I doubt that a real 'Eddie Lang player' will achieve there even the less
important prize...

To start the foundation of an Eddie Lang Guild the best thing to do is
spreading the news right now and from this site.
Would anybody join Ted and me in this holy crusade ?

Ciao
Nino

Ron Hall

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Sep 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/30/99
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Plectrum Brass wrote:

> To start the foundation of an Eddie Lang Guild the best thing to do is
> spreading the news right now and from this site.
> Would anybody join Ted and me in this holy crusade ?

I'd join, but PMI, what do you mean by a "Guild"?

Thanks.........Ron


shof

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Oct 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/1/99
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About Eddie Lang transcriptions: The following certainly exist (I have
them):
1) "Seven original compositions for the guitar by the great Eddie Lang.
Transcribed and arranged for plectrum guitar solos with guitar accompaniment
by Dave Berend". Copyright 1961 by Robbins Music Corp. Content: Feelin' my
way; April kisses; Pickin' my way; Sunshine; Stringin' the blues; A handful
of riffs; Rainbows end [also known as Rainbows dream].
2) "Jazz Guitar" transcribed by James Birkett contains 20 titles, one of
which is by Eddie Lang: Perfect. Published 1987 by International Music
Publications. ISBN 0 86359 408 5.
3) "Jazz Guitar 2" transcribed by James Birkett also contains 20 titles, one
of which is by Eddie Lang: A litttle love, a little kiss. Published 1988 by
International Music Publications. ISBN 0 86359 624 X.
4) "Guitar Player" August 1983 contains two interesting articles about Eddie
Lang
and his Gibson L-5, and also a transcription of Deep Minor Rhythm.

I recall that when taking gutar lessons as a teenager in the mid-60's my
teacher had single sheets with transcriptions of Eddie's Twister, several of
those mentioned above in #1, and also a transcription of Eddie Lang's guitar
version of Rachmaninoff's Opus 3 No. 2 (Prelude in C sharp Minor). The piano
version is in C#m, while EL played it in Em.
In #1 mentioned above there are the following references to the guitar
books by EL (both published by Robbins Music Corp.):
a) "Eddie Lang's advanced method for guitar"
b) "Fingerboard harmony for guitar" by Eddie LAng and Dave Berend.

Whenever I have been in the US I have searched for these books, however
without success.
Nino, could you inform us whether the italian versions of these books (publ.
by Edizioni Curzi) are still available? It would also by interesting to
learn more about the italian EL-festivals.
I would certainly support the idea of an Eddie Lang club.
Regards
Steen Hoffmann
(Denmark)

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Plectrum Brass

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I am trying to found an 'Eddie Lang Guild'.
We could gather all the available informations about him and his music,
adding chord charts, tablature and transcriptions and then put all that
stuff in a non-profit WEB site.
Would anybody help me ?

Ciao !
Nino

Paul Craven

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Oct 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/2/99
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More Eddie Lang transcriptions:

Masters of the Plectrum Guitar (Mel Bay) has Feelin' My Way, Picking
My Way, Rainbow's End, Handful of Riffs, and two Lang/Venuti duets:
Sunshine and Stringin' the Blues.

Away Down in the Alley: The Great Blues Guitar of Lonnie Johnson (Mel
Bay) has these Johnson/Lang duets: Have to Change Keys, Bull Frog
Moan, Guitar Blues, and Handful of Riffs.

Both these books should be in print; Plectrum isbn 0-7866-0267-8;
Alley isbn 1-56222-906-0.

Both have notation plus tab. Lots of wonderful period stuff in
Plectrum.

shof wrote:
>
> About Eddie Lang transcriptions: The following certainly exist (I have
> them):
> 1) "Seven original compositions for the guitar by the great Eddie Lang.
> Transcribed and arranged for plectrum guitar solos with guitar accompaniment
> by Dave Berend". Copyright 1961 by Robbins Music Corp. Content: Feelin' my
> way; April kisses; Pickin' my way; Sunshine; Stringin' the blues; A handful
> of riffs; Rainbows end [also known as Rainbows dream].
> 2) "Jazz Guitar" transcribed by James Birkett contains 20 titles, one of
> which is by Eddie Lang: Perfect. Published 1987 by International Music
> Publications. ISBN 0 86359 408 5.
> 3) "Jazz Guitar 2" transcribed by James Birkett also contains 20 titles, one
> of which is by Eddie Lang: A litttle love, a little kiss. Published 1988 by
> International Music Publications. ISBN 0 86359 624 X.
> 4) "Guitar Player" August 1983 contains two interesting articles about Eddie
> Lang
> and his Gibson L-5, and also a transcription of Deep Minor Rhythm.

...

________________

Paul Craven
York University

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