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Automatic tuner - your thoughts?

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LarryV

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Jan 19, 2007, 8:16:38 AM1/19/07
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Product announcement:

http://tinyurl.com/2opsu3


Gibson announcement:

http://tinyurl.com/3396bg

Gerry

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Jan 19, 2007, 11:25:07 AM1/19/07
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You install the gizmo it tunes your guitar with servo-controls on the
tuning gears at the touch of a button. It can tune the guitar to
open-tunings and whatever you like. To does it in less than 2 seconds
to an accuracy of .2. You push a button--tuned. Gibson has bought the
exclusives on it but apparently will also sell it as retro-fit.

Another interesting modern innovation. I'd love to have it installed
on my guitar if it were discreet and out of the way. Tuning isn't a
big problem, but it's one of many I'd be more than glad to discard.
But price is important: I don't know whether it wil cost $5 bucks or
$500. Rick LaForce's note below indicates $800. I don't know where
the number $800 came from (below) but I'd never consider it for that
cost.

I love the first comment on the Harmony Central announcement of
Tronical's product:

"I'm about to reveal my age, IQ, or small-mindedness (or all three)
since I have never seen this system in action, but I'm gonna step out
on the limb anyway. This, to me, seems a sterling example of why
something shouldn't be produced simply because it can be produced. I'm
sure it's an absolute marvel of modern science and an engineering
masterpiece, but come on. We're talking about tuning a guitar here. In
a way, tuning a guitar should be kind of a self-limiting test. If you
can't tune it the old-fashioned way, then maybe it's not the instrument
for you. Maybe the kazoo or jaw-harp would be a better fit. Or maybe
I'm just not getting it. But if there's a form of music for the guitar
requiring such absolute precision that only a computer can accomplish
the tuning for it, it really wouldn't be guitar music anymore, would
it? With the "digitalization" of just about everything related to the
guitar (including the guitar itself), this is just one more step on the
road to completely gutting the soul from the instrument. For the most
part, I'm not anti-technology, but for my money, they could have left
the electric guitar alone after the 1959 Les Paul Standard hit the
street. $800 for a guitar tuner? I think I'll apply that to the
purchase of the new, lower-than-lowtech BFG Les Paul . . ."
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oasysco

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Jan 19, 2007, 12:11:53 PM1/19/07
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For $799 as the article stated, I'll keep my handy-dandy peghead tuner
and use my hands :)-

If they really want to eliminate tuning, get rid of the strings
altogether.

Greg

LarryV

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Jan 19, 2007, 1:27:22 PM1/19/07
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There's a video of it in action on their web page -
http://www.tronical.com/

So Gibson will be using this, and at the same time I would guess it
will tack another $800 onto their already high price tag. I've never
seen tuning the guitar as such a hassle that I would need to automate
it in this way, so I kind of feel the same way about it as the article
that Gerry quoted earlier in the post.

tomb...@jhu.edu

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Jan 19, 2007, 1:34:24 PM1/19/07
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I'd rather have an automatic string changer.

Gerry

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Jan 19, 2007, 1:58:27 PM1/19/07
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On 2007-01-19 09:11:53 -0800, "oasysco" <wilder...@yahoo.com> said:

> For $799 as the article stated, I'll keep my handy-dandy peghead tuner
> and use my hands :)-
>
> If they really want to eliminate tuning, get rid of the strings
> altogether.

Is that also one of Gibson's new options? :-)
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Gerry

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Jan 19, 2007, 2:03:50 PM1/19/07
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It's in the works. Also: an automatic system that bitches about the
drummer draggin the time. That's should free up lots of time too.
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LarryV

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Jan 19, 2007, 2:12:31 PM1/19/07
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Along with an automatic picking system that generates perfect
continuous 8th, 16th or 32nd note lines by sensing which string the
finger is on. No more need for those tedious practice sessions trying
to coordinate hand technique.

Gerry

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Jan 19, 2007, 2:32:38 PM1/19/07
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On 2007-01-19 11:12:31 -0800, "LarryV" <lar...@rcn.com> said:

> Along with an automatic picking system that generates perfect
> continuous 8th, 16th or 32nd note lines by sensing which string the
> finger is on. No more need for those tedious practice sessions trying
> to coordinate hand technique.

Okay! Now we're getting somewhere! There should be more brainstorming
like this in corporate offices somewhere. Let's eliminate the more
substantive problems that guitarist really encounter every day: for
instance playing really shitty as an example. No matter how
"space-aged" the guitar, they should direct their attention to the
discomfort we encounter every day while being forced to listen to our
own playing.
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ken

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Jan 19, 2007, 2:44:12 PM1/19/07
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Gerry wrote:

> Okay! Now we're getting somewhere! There should be more brainstorming
> like this in corporate offices somewhere.

Where do you think some of us are typing this stuff from? ;)

LarryV

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Jan 19, 2007, 2:57:40 PM1/19/07
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Yeah, the "Polish-A-Turd" guitar system, automatically corrects for
different levels of proficiency or lack thereof.

Don

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Jan 19, 2007, 8:18:00 PM1/19/07
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Interesting views on the technology. Very similar to some of the arguments
around autofocus on cameras. Remember one guy saying if you cannot focus by
simply turning a barrel then perhaps photography is not for you!! I thought
some of the advantages would have been the speed at which you could change
the same instrument to different types of tuning for different songs in the
same set. ie not having to change guitars as I see many guitarists doing.
So perhaps the real innovation is having the different preset tunings you
can access with the push of the button?

regards

Don from Down Under
(a very bad guitarist by the way, but improving through info on this group)


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