Benedetto or Zoller pickup?
luteplayer1
guitar with a good ebony neck. I'd rather just change the pickups than
buy a new guitar.
The two that I am thinking about are:
1. Seymour Duncan Benedetto-designed A6 humbucker - Someone here
mentioned a possible truth or myth that the Seymour Duncan ones are
not as good as the original Benedetto ones.
2. Shadow Atilla Zoller humbucker
Both profess to giving that classic fat, warm jazz tone. Has anyone
experience of either or both of these pickups?
RobM
Dallas Selman
for it. BUT...try a Bertonlin - there is a pickup!
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> Contemplating changing the neck pickup in my Yamaha SA200 - a 335-type
> guitar with a good ebony neck. I'd rather just change the pickups than
The pickup makes some difference, but you can get nuts in a hurry if
you go down the path of swapping out parts.
The original Benedetto-labeled pickups were made by Kent Armstrong.
If you hunt around you can find out how to contact him, I think he's
still making one-offs.
I can't comment on either of the pickups you cited. But there are
lots of decent pickups out there. Why not just try something decent
(but not too hard to get) and see if that takes you in the direction
you want to go? Maybe the SD Seth Lover (which I've tried and liked)
or Jazz (which I've tried and didn't like).
Mark Guest
Why not use a Gibson 57 Classic? Relatively cheap, and they deliver,
well... the "classic" tone. And also consider changing out the entire
wiring harness, too. Some import guitar's wiring is pretty cheesy, but
I don't know if that's the case for Yamaha. Maybe not.
Best of luck.
All the best,
Mark Guest
Jazz Guitar
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Charlie X
>
> I can't comment on either of the pickups you cited. But there are
> lots of decent pickups out there. Why not just try something decent
> (but not too hard to get) and see if that takes you in the direction
> you want to go? Maybe the SD Seth Lover (which I've tried and liked)
> or Jazz (which I've tried and didn't like).
I second that. I installed the Jazz on my 7 string. It was way too
bright and brittle. No bass response on my 7 string. I am afraid to
try the Benedetto because they are made by Semour Duncan and may be
the same or similar. I dont know that they are, but Im also looking
for an alternative. I have no idea what SD is thinking by calling
their pickup "Jazz".
I would use the 57 classic if they made a 7 string model.
Paul C
> I second that. I installed the Jazz on my 7 string. It was way too
> bright and brittle. No bass response on my 7 string. I am afraid to
> try the Benedetto because they are made by Semour Duncan and may be
> the same or similar. I dont know that they are, but Im also looking
> for an alternative. I have no idea what SD is thinking by calling
> their pickup "Jazz".
> I would use the 57 classic if they made a 7 string model.
The SD Jazz can sound very good for jazz in a Tele. SD makes a lot of
different pickups; just because you didn't like one type in your
guitar doesn't mean another type won't be to your taste. The same
pickup will sound differently with different guitars, and vice-versa.
msei...@pair.com
I have used the Shadow AZ models for years in various guitars.
Personally, I like the sound. It leans towards a flat and defined
sound (Listen to Attila's later recordings), which may even help with
some feedback issues. I do find that the high E is a little weak if
you use anything guage less than an .013.
Mitch
but that may even help some feedback problems.
Martacus
Hi,
I've used both Zoller and Duncan Benedetto, although the Benny is the
S-6 and S-7- I had a Zoller on my Rivera seven string, and while I was
happy with the sound the pickup wasn't designed for seven, so the high
E definitely suffered. (As someone mentions further on, I eventually
started using .014 on the seven, and that corrected a lot of the
problem.) I changed to a Duncan S-7, and absolutely love it. To my
ears, it's the perfect sound, and definitely the best sounding guitar
I own. (I get comments on the guitar's tone at gigs pretty regularly,
from other musicians and the general public, so it's noticeably nice.)
After that, I put the S-6 on my EXL1-DP - I find the tone is much
better than with the stock pickup. My vote would be for the Duncan/
Benedetto.
Marty
luteplayer1
pickups...I'll give it more thought.
Derek
>Why not use a Gibson 57 Classic? Relatively cheap, and they deliver,
>well... the "classic" tone. And also consider changing out the entire
>wiring harness, too. Some import guitar's wiring is pretty cheesy, but
>I don't know if that's the case for Yamaha. Maybe not.
Did that 57 go in okay Mark? The 57 has always been my first choice
for hollow and semi hollow guitars. As Mark points out, price is
right, and we all know and love the sound.
Having said that, I have a semihollow Forshage Ergo that will be here
some time next month that will have two Bennedetto buckers with coil
splits. I look forward to hearing them.
As to the suggestion of the SD Jazz, imo that is the most misnamed pup
I have run across. To my ears it is a pretty bright pup, not what you
would expect from a pup who's name is "Jazz".
The Seth Lover is used as an upgrade pup with Heritage guitars. I
have played a new 575 locally that has them in it, and it just sings.
Good luck
arni...@verizon.net
arni...@verizon.net
> Thanks guys. Much to think about. It's always a gamble changing
> pickups...I'll give it more thought.
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> Contemplating changing the neck pickup in my Yamaha SA200 - a 335-type guitar with a good ebony neck. I'd rather just change the pickups than buy a new guitar.The two that I am thinking about are:1. Seymour Duncan Benedetto-designed A6 humbucker - Someone here mentioned a possible truth or myth that the Seymour Duncan ones are not as good as the original Benedetto ones.2. Shadow Atilla Zoller humbuckerBoth profess to giving that classic fat, warm jazz tone. Has anyone experience of either or both of these pickups?RobM
I don't think a pickup change will give you a fat sound for that guitar, that's not what it was designed for, and I think the yammie pickups are probably OK. It has a centre block doesn't it?
But Joey G. has Active pickups in his solidbody, and that might be a direction to try.
Try a bunch of different picks too , they're cheap and some Heavier ones might help, as well as a string set of at least .013"
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Mitch
I have found that the high E string can sound thin on an archtop if you go too light, so a .013 works best for me. It's probably different for a guitar like yours. If Kent was involved with the other pickup you mentioned I'm sure it's a good one. he know his stuff!
Keep in mind that pickups sound different on different guitars, and changing may or may not satisfy you.
Mitch Seidman