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Michael Tueller

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Sep 24, 2006, 6:26:15 PM9/24/06
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Mark Guest

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Sep 24, 2006, 10:02:29 PM9/24/06
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Ahhhh, crap! I just bought a new JazzKat! Doh!

Michael Tueller wrote:
> http://www.acousticimg.com/index2.html

Dallas Selman

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Sep 25, 2006, 12:52:31 PM9/25/06
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I just bought a Coda, but if their FAQ is correct, the extension speaker for
the Corus should incorporate the new woofer and crossover found in the
Corus - which ought to work with the Coda....


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Sep 25, 2006, 1:19:19 PM9/25/06
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> Ahhhh, crap! I just bought a new JazzKat! Doh!

Well, you paid half as much as for the AI then... not a bad thing.
How do you like it?? One just went on eBay (first I've seen) for $550
or so.

Roger

Dave Stephens

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Sep 25, 2006, 1:50:40 PM9/25/06
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I have a series II prototype of what morphed into the Corus. The Corus
incorporates a lot of changes and improvements over the one the prototype
that they loaned me and, knowing AI, I'm sure Corus is superior.

My review of the JazzKat will appear in the November JJG. It's a very fine
amp at its price point; however, most of the A-B comparisons we did were to
the prototype. EVERYONE preferred the AI. The Kat is very competent and a
great bargain, but when you pull out all the stops the AIs are hard to beat.
It's a great combination of tone, sonic refinement (it doesn't make a
Benedetto sound like a Gibson), incredible headroom and great packaging.

If it's in you budget (that's a big IF) then it's hard to go wrong.

Dave

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j...@isu.edu

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Sep 25, 2006, 3:10:25 PM9/25/06
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Has anyone checked out what Jeff Hale is doing to package the Clarus
into a combo with an RE cab?
http://jhalemusic.com/pages/raezersEdge.html

tomb...@jhu.edu

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Sep 25, 2006, 4:19:00 PM9/25/06
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Mark Guest wrote:
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> Ahhhh, crap! I just bought a new JazzKat! Doh!

That's one endorsement I don't expect to see in a future Jazzkat ad.

j...@isu.edu

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Sep 25, 2006, 4:51:43 PM9/25/06
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I heard Bill Stewart make a less than enthusiastic endorsement of a
drum kit I never expect to see used in an ad: "You could play a gig
with it." The really funny part was the defensive tone in his voice.

Michael Tueller

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Sep 25, 2006, 5:37:49 PM9/25/06
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> EVERYONE preferred the AI. The Kat is very competent and a
> great bargain, but when you pull out all the stops the AIs are hard to
> beat.

Is it difficult to mike these "downfiring" amps?

Michael

Dave Stephens

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Sep 25, 2006, 6:16:59 PM9/25/06
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They're not just downfiring, but multi-driver, so the mic needs to be three
or so feet away to get a blend. The DI is excellent, but you can't just put
a Shure right against one of the drivers and expect to get full range.
They're fine in an isolation booth, but if you'll get more bleed than usual
if you try to mic them on stage. On stage, the DI is the way to go for out
going thru the board.

Dave

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danny...@cox.net

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Sep 26, 2006, 12:39:57 AM9/26/06
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Dave Stephens wrote:
> I have a series II prototype of what morphed into the Corus. The Corus
> incorporates a lot of changes and improvements over the one the prototype
> that they loaned me and, knowing AI, I'm sure Corus is superior.
>
> My review of the JazzKat will appear in the November JJG. It's a very fine
> amp at its price point; however, most of the A-B comparisons we did were to
> the prototype. EVERYONE preferred the AI. The Kat is very competent and a
> great bargain, but when you pull out all the stops the AIs are hard to beat.
> It's a great combination of tone, sonic refinement (it doesn't make a
> Benedetto sound like a Gibson), incredible headroom and great packaging.
>
> If it's in you budget (that's a big IF) then it's hard to go wrong.
>
> Dave
>

I do most of my performances with an AI CodaR II, despite the fact that
it doesn't sound quite as good as any of my RE speakers. The small and
light package, combined with an accurate and spacious sound that seems
perfect for my archtop guitars, makes it my first choice for all but my
largest gigs. If it also had the sonic heft of the RE cabinets and had
a more efficient speaker system, it would wotk for 100% of my playing.
Needless to say, I can't wait to try an AI Corus.

Danny W.

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Sep 26, 2006, 1:07:38 AM9/26/06
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I had the Stealth10-ER version of the Combo in my house for several
weeks. When I first received it I didn't care for its sound--the bass
was very thin and the highs a bit brittle. After some additional
breaking in, the bass improved quite a bit, but compared to my Rich
Raezer-built S10-ER, it still sounded too bright with the tweeter
control turned all the way down. I could get a similar sound out of my
S10-ER by turning the tweeter control up about 1/3, but when I did, the
high end of my cabinet sounded smoother than that of the Combo cabinet,
and I missed the ability to get a darker sound by turning the tweeter
control down. The tone controls on the Clarus R III in the Combo amp
made the highs too dull when turned down to match my S10-ER with the
controls flat. In any case, I prefer to have the right sound with the
amp's tone controls set flat, and use the controls to adjust for the
room.

It's not so much that the Combo sounded bad, but that my other RE
cabinets sounded better. I tried it with my Boss GT-8 and it sounded
excellent, with lots of volume and a wide-enough range to bring out the
best in the GT-8 emulation. If I did more fusion-ey kinds of things,
I'd probably be happy with it as it.

At RE's request, I sent it back to them for evaluation. If they think
there's a problem with it that can be fixed, I'll take another look at
it. If not, I'd rather use my present speakers.

I will say that it's a very nice-looking package. It's fairly big,
though--a bit bigger than a Twin 8-Tower--and somewhat heavy at about
40 pounds. My T8-T-ER weighs 39 pounds without the amp head, but I use
it only for major events. The Combo I was evaluating had an optional
spring-loaded tilt device and an optional side handle.

I'll give high marks to Jeff Hale of RE and Jeff Lange of JazzSelect
(my dealer) for being very helpful, patient and understanding.

Danny W.

danny...@cox.net

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Sep 26, 2006, 1:09:28 AM9/26/06
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> I do most of my performances with an AI CodaR II, despite the fact that
> it doesn't sound quite as good as any of my RE speakers. The small and
> light package, combined with an accurate and spacious sound that seems
> perfect for my archtop guitars, makes it my first choice for all but my
> largest gigs. If it also had the sonic heft of the RE cabinets and had
> a more efficient speaker system, it would wotk for 100% of my playing.
> Needless to say, I can't wait to try an AI Corus.
>
> Danny W.

"wotk" = work, of course.

:-)

Dave Stephens

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Sep 26, 2006, 9:55:49 AM9/26/06
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Danny, I think there is something wrong with you new S10-ER. As you know,
for JJG I compare my Rich Raezer made S10-ER to one of the first made by J
Hale and I could not tell them apart by sound. I'm betting that you got a
bad crossover.

I haven't heard the new Corus, but my first words to the AI guys after I
spent time with the guitar combo prototype was that I liked it a lot, but
preferred the C2R/S10-ER combination. I'm betting that they moved in that
direction without going all the way. That was back when Rich was still alive
and they ordered a S10-ER to make some measurements, comparisons, etc. I'm
anxious to hear the Corus and I'll bet it's still very firmly in the AI camp
of amp sound with a bow to RE. That's not a bad thing. The prototype that I
had really worked and most players love it.

Dave

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Sep 30, 2006, 10:31:32 PM9/30/06
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Dave Stephens wrote:
> Danny, I think there is something wrong with you new S10-ER. As you know,
> for JJG I compare my Rich Raezer made S10-ER to one of the first made by J
> Hale and I could not tell them apart by sound. I'm betting that you got a
> bad crossover.
>
> > Dave
>
> Dave
>

Unfortunately, my dealer tells me that's not the case. RE says the
Combo checks out fine.

Danny W.

Dave Stephens

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Oct 2, 2006, 11:58:48 AM10/2/06
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Is your dealer near enough that you could take both cabs by there for
comparison?

Dave
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Mark Guest

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Oct 2, 2006, 2:07:07 PM10/2/06
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Hi Roger,

The JazzKat is nice. It's very small and light, and loud enough that I
have used it on a quartet gig in a fairly loud room. At the top 1/3 of
the output (I haven't dimed it), it produces a pleasing singing sort of
distortion, probably from the speaker, but I don't know enough to say
for sure...could have been the room's acoustics. I use it for most of
my gigs now. It is not as nice as the Clarus/RE rig, but the
convenience factor makes up for the downgraded sonic factor. It does
what Polytones *should*, without the mid range honkiness. And I have
*not* needed to send it to the shop. I didn't have good luck with my
Polytones.

My only hang up about the JazzKat is that it is not a good PA, at least
at higher volume levels. The Clarus/S12ER works great at the dual duty
(vocal and guit), at least for my needs.

All the best,

Mark Guest
Jazz Guitar

"Take a music bath once or twice a week for a few seasons, and you will
find that it is to the soul what the water bath is to the body."

Oliver Wendell Holmes (1809 - 1894)

danny...@cox.net

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Oct 2, 2006, 4:03:08 PM10/2/06
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Dave Stephens wrote:
> Is your dealer near enough that you could take both cabs by there for
> comparison?
>
> Dave

As I had posted earlier, I had already sent the Combo back to RE for
evaluation, at their request. I had told them that if they don't think
there is something wrong wih it, I don't want it back.

Danny W.

jimmyb

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Oct 2, 2006, 4:38:29 PM10/2/06
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I can tell you that the RE made by the new owner are not the same as
the ones made by Rich. I don't think they are even close. Right now I
switched to the new AI combo with ext speaker. Works great for me.
Just my opinion

jimmyb

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Oct 2, 2006, 4:38:28 PM10/2/06
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I can tell you that the RE made by the new owner are not the same as
the ones made by Rich. I don't think they are even close. Right now I
switched to the new AI combo with ext speaker. Works great for me.
Just my opinion
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Dave Stephens

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Oct 2, 2006, 6:20:16 PM10/2/06
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Wow, that surprises me Jimmy. Which models are you comparing.

BTW, that Corus is going to be a hell of an amp. I have an older prototype
and I'm sure that the new production unit is even better.

Back to the new REs. They sent me an early S10-ER and it was exactly the
same as the one Rich made for me. I wouldn't have said it in JJG if it
weren't true. Jeff told me his philosophy was to carry one the products of
Rich Raezer using the same construction and parts. I understand from Jeff
that they added a NY8-ER that is based on a prototype of Rich's. Maybe
there's been an inadvertant change in sound, or, just maybe, I was
hoodwinked. Still, that would surprise me because they seemed very earnest
and set on carrying on the tradition.

Dave

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Dave Stephens wrote:
> Wow, that surprises me Jimmy. Which models are you comparing.
>
> BTW, that Corus is going to be a hell of an amp. I have an older prototype
> and I'm sure that the new production unit is even better.
>
> Back to the new REs. They sent me an early S10-ER and it was exactly the
> same as the one Rich made for me. I wouldn't have said it in JJG if it
> weren't true. Jeff told me his philosophy was to carry one the products of
> Rich Raezer using the same construction and parts. I understand from Jeff
> that they added a NY8-ER that is based on a prototype of Rich's. Maybe
> there's been an inadvertant change in sound, or, just maybe, I was
> hoodwinked. Still, that would surprise me because they seemed very earnest
> and set on carrying on the tradition.
>
> Dave

I have to say that the RE Combo didn't sound right to me when I first
tried it, and comparing it to my other RE cabinets only served to
confirm that opinion. My wife and several people I play with felt the
same way about it.

Since I love my AI Coda, I'm really looking forward to getting a Corus.

Danny W.

jimmyb

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Oct 3, 2006, 5:03:17 AM10/3/06
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Someone brought one to a gig I played and it didnt cut it. the only
way to test an amp or speaker is on the gig. Playing it in your living
room only tells you what it sounds like in your house.

Mark Kleinhaut

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jimmyb wrote:
> I can tell you that the RE made by the new owner are not the same as
> the ones made by Rich. I don't think they are even close. Right now I
> switched to the new AI combo with ext speaker. Works great for me.
> Just my opinion

Ah, the "red violin" mystery.

www.markkleinhaut.com

ts...@hotmail.com

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Oct 3, 2006, 3:26:40 PM10/3/06
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Hi Dave
Rich and I spoke about the possability of doing a prototype NY-8 ER for
a client of mine who plays Classical/ flamingo gtr. out here. I'm glad
to hear that it is out , but at the time of his passing I understand
that it was still a prototype.
Some of the other experiments from the past : a 4 x 8 ER and a twin 8
ER that I have were done up around the same time as the S-12ER , sadly
they remain as a one off as they didnt meet several critera to warrant
marketing at the time.
As you might already know some of the later upgrades Rich made to his
speakers included an upgrade to a heavier internal speaker cable and
the use of neutric connectors as standard issue. Previously the
connectors were only an option that we insisted on from day one's
orders.
Skip

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ts...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Hi Dave
> Rich and I spoke about the possability of doing a prototype NY-8 ER for
> a client of mine who plays Classical/ flamingo gtr. out here. I'm glad
> to hear that it is out , but at the time of his passing I understand
> that it was still a prototype.
> Some of the other experiments from the past : a 4 x 8 ER and a twin 8
> ER that I have were done up around the same time as the S-12ER , sadly
> they remain as a one off as they didnt meet several critera to warrant
> marketing at the time.
> As you might already know some of the later upgrades Rich made to his
> speakers included an upgrade to a heavier internal speaker cable and
> the use of neutric connectors as standard issue. Previously the
> connectors were only an option that we insisted on from day one's
> orders.
> Skip
>

Rich made me a NY-8 ER. I didn't really like it--compared to my
standard NY8, its bass was very "woofy", and when I balanced it out
with the tweeter, its overall sound was thin. Compared to my S12-ER or
T8-T ER, it seemed lifeless.I tried it for about a month, but finally
sent it back to Rich. I replaced it with an S10-ER, which I think
sounds much better and is well worth the extra five pounds in weight.

Danny

Dave Stephens

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Oct 4, 2006, 4:15:18 PM10/4/06
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I think Jeff is exploring some of those old prototypes that never became
production models. Anyone that has one of Rich's prototypes that really
works, should at least talk to Jeff Hale about considering it for
production.

Dave

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