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JeffJeffH

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I am interested in hearing opinions on Evans Amps. In particular, I would
really like to get the AE 100 (100W with 8 inch speaker). The gigs I play are
fairly small, solo to 4 piece in cafe/bar settings. Every once in a while I
play a larger gig or outdoor job. Axe's are all archtops (L5, Epi Broadway,
Epi Emperor). Any comments?

Thanks,

Jeff
(Yes, I have read the FAQ and it has been helpful)

David C. Stephens

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JJG had a review of the AE100 (February 2000 I think). Keep in mind that the
reviews in JJG tend to be all positive, but reading between the lines I
think the reviewer liked it a lot and thought it moved mountains when
combined with the Evans extension speaker.

There hasn't been an extended review posted here (that I recall), but I've
spoken online to one or two users, including one owner of the big brother
Evans JE150, and the consensus has been consistently positive.

My only caveat is that before I'd spend $600+ on the Evans extension cab,
I'd want to seriously think about a RE Stealth 10 or One 8, for considerable
less.

Evans put out a blooper or two a couple of years back, but the reviews on
the AE100 and AE200 have been consistently positive.

Dave

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Martin Bick

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The AE 100 is a very fine Evans amp. I had the opportunity to try
several Evans amps when I bought my JE150 last Summer from Jim Mapson.
For just about the same dough, however, you can have the 12" Eclipse
speaker in the JE150. The AE100/JE150 chassis is the same and the
cabinet size and weight are reasonably comparable. Without going the
extension cabinet route, I'd say the JE150 will give you more ample
coverage of various playing situations than the AE 100. That's the
way I look at it.

If you do order one, I suggest you specify that you plan to use the
amp for recoring purposes. My amp is dead quiet. Three different
SoCal jazz guitarists I know of have had amplifier hum/hiss problems
(which were quickly and graciously corrected by Evans).

Martin

Michael D. Gargano

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I have both the JE 150 (12") AND the AE 100 (8")
and I have found that for me personally:

the VENUE with regard to space/size/ambience AND the LOGISTICS of the load
in/out are more decisive to my amp choice than the actual sound of either amp
compared to each other...
solo, restaurant volume, duo with bass, even a trio with a sensitive drummer,
I'll use the AE 100 and never want for the bigger one the whole gig...
and the load in and set up is too die for! (you're outta there faster than any
vocal diva with an SM-58 and a cord!)

I'm also talking archtops with floating or set pickup(s)...

for a quartet and up, all the way to big band and I like the JE 150..."fatness"
factor seems to be there a little more with the 12"...esp with all those horns!

also, if there's a PA and i'm using a DI box or XLR on the back of either amp,
and/or being miked (sometimes <smile> both gtr and amp), then it's out of my
hands and you trust the sound guys...it those instances, I just try to make sure
I can hear the amp as a monitor.

I started all this by replacing my Polytone mini brute 11 with the JE 150...then
after a year or so i replaced my mega brute (8") with the AE 100...recently I
upgraded the speaker in the150 and also added an ext. jack for another speaker,
stock equipment on my AE 100 ,but not on my older, 4 ohm JE150...(now an 8
ohm)...

the plan is to now decide on a fairly rugged extension cabinet, a speaker size
(8" or 10"), and have all the combinations available for the gig at hand...I've
run the JE 150 with my blackface princeton reverb with a 10' JBL in tandem and
YIKES what a sound...I've also run the AE 100 with a slave 8" spkr (basically a
polytone baby brute with no amp) and I'm told it sounds wonderful (I run one
spkr over to the opposite side of the stage area)...so far i don't think
anyone's unplugged me!!!

hope this helps!

Michael

Mark Kleinhaut

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Jun 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/16/00
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In article <3949643e...@news.isat.com>,

ti...@inetworld.net (Martin Bick) wrote:
>
> If you do order one, I suggest you specify that you plan to use the
> amp for recoring purposes. My amp is dead quiet. Three different
> SoCal jazz guitarists I know of have had amplifier hum/hiss problems
> (which were quickly and graciously corrected by Evans).

My AE-200 had to be replaced with a quiter unit. When I first got it
the amp was dead quiet, but then it had a total meltdown and went in
for repair (an output transistor went into thermal runaway). When it
came back it was just not the same, which was quite irritating really
since you'd figure if the guy has it on the bench for repair,
especially when its only a month old, that he'd make damm sure it was
1,000% before shipping it back to the customer.

The story ended very well, however, in that Evans prompty replaced the
entire chassis and it has been fabulous ever since. At this point, I
feel I have the best amp on the planet and the hassel was well worth
it. Hopefully, their QC has improved now and the return hassel factor
can be eliminated for new buyers.

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Cor Roelvink

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I use the GH200/Stealth 12 combination. I play in a jazz combo together with
9 other musicians. For me it is a perfect combination. Very warm sound
together with my L4.
I have only one complaint, the reverb is absolutely terrible. It does not
sound as a reverb. It only gives a lot of hum.
Cor Roelvink
(the Netherlands)

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> I am interested in hearing opinions on Evans Amps. In particular, I would
> really like to get the AE 100 (100W with 8 inch speaker). The gigs I play
are
> fairly small, solo to 4 piece in cafe/bar settings. Every once in a while
I
> play a larger gig or outdoor job. Axe's are all archtops (L5, Epi
Broadway,
> Epi Emperor). Any comments?
>

Josh Harmony Central

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Hi,

Here is a link to some reviews of Evans amps at Harmony Central.com. There
are user reviews of four different Evans models.

http://www.harmony-central.com/Guitar/Data/Evans/

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Chris Smart

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Just wondering ... what would a clean solid-state amp sound like if you
played a les Paul type solidbody electric into it?

Full and still warm or really thin?

Mark Kleinhaut
(markkl...@hotmail.com)
wrote: : In article <3949643e...@news.isat.com>,

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Greger Hoel

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On 16 Jun 2000 23:37:31 GMT, ch...@uoguelph.ca (Chris Smart) wrote:

>Just wondering ... what would a clean solid-state amp sound like if you
>played a les Paul type solidbody electric into it?

Depends on the amp, I guess. Albert King used a Jazz Chorus, he
sounded plenty fat.

mvh Greger Hoel

David C. Stephens

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Sounds like the reverb is broken. It works on those I've heard. Hopefully
you can find repairs in the Netherlands...

Dave

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> I use the GH200/Stealth 12 combination. I play in a jazz combo together
with
> 9 other musicians. For me it is a perfect combination. Very warm sound
> together with my L4.
> I have only one complaint, the reverb is absolutely terrible. It does not
> sound as a reverb. It only gives a lot of hum.
> Cor Roelvink
> (the Netherlands)
>
> JeffJeffH <jeff...@aol.com> schreef in berichtnieuws

David C. Stephens

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It can be nice and warm. The Evans and Walter Woods amps are warmer than a
Polytone, so you might prefer their sound with a warm cab, like a Raezer's
Edge Twin-8 or Stealth 12.

I play my humbucker equipped Tele with a Poly/RE combination and the tone
ranges from warm and full to ice pick in the eye, depending on the pickup
selection and amp settings.

Dave

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> Just wondering ... what would a clean solid-state amp sound like if you
> played a les Paul type solidbody electric into it?
>

Kevin Van Sant

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Jun 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/22/00
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On Sat, 17 Jun 2000 17:47:29 -0400, Gregory Lawton
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>
>After doing a little research, I bought an Evans TE just a few weeks ago, through
>Legato guitars. It is 150 watts and has a 10" speaker that set in the cabinet at
>a slight angle to fill a room with sound. The sound is warm, clean and
>undistorted even at higher volumes. It does tend to be on the treble side so I
>keep the treble control way down. Sounds beautiful with my Gibson archtop. Evans
>Amps are not inexpensive, but for the steel or jazz guitar player, it will likely
>be your only amp purchase.
>

Hey Gregory, I've also got a TE (had it about 2 years). It's worked
out very well for me in a variety of settings. One thing which I've
observed that I think promotes a fuller sounding tone is to leave the
bass turned very low, maybe at 2, and turn the depth on. For about a
year I did the opposite, depth off and bass at around 8. But I think
the former sounds fuller. Once I dial in a tone I like on an amp it
never changes, I just adjust the volume as per gig, and use the tone
pot on the guitar. So after experimenting when I first bought the amp
I found a great sound and left it alone. That's why it took me a year
to discover something that sounded better :) Of course your guitar
may respond differently, but I also play a gibson.


_________________________________________
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Mark Kleinhaut

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In article <396237B6...@attglobal.net>,
Gregory Lawton <gla...@attglobal.net> wrote:
>
> Kevin,

>
> > One thing which I've observed that I think promotes a fuller
sounding tone is to
> > leave the
> > bass turned very low, maybe at 2, and turn the depth on. For
about a
> > year I did the opposite, depth off and bass at around 8. But I
think
> > the former sounds fuller. Once I dial in a tone I like on an amp it
> > never changes, I just adjust the volume as per gig, and use the tone
> > pot on the guitar. So after experimenting when I first bought the
amp
> > I found a great sound and left it alone. That's why it took me a
year
> > to discover something that sounded better :) Of course your guitar
> > may respond differently, but I also play a gibson.
>
> Thanks for the note, just picked your message. I've been
experimenting with the sound
> levels, and agree that keeping the bass setting low helps keep the
sound fuller. Also
> I switched to heavy weight strings (GHS flatwound .13 on the E).
That does make a big
> difference -- with lightweight strings the B and E sounded "tinny."
I'll probably
> experiment with a .14 on the ist string as well. My days of bending
notes are pretty
> much long over.
>
> The Evans TE is a wonderful little amp, with enough power for club
and hall
> situations. I do prefer the 10" speaker as well, it's the main
reason I chose the TE
> over the newer AE series. Kinda wish the power switch was in front,
though. I wrote
> to the Buffingtons making that suggestion as well as making an
extension speaker jack a
> standard feature.
>
> Greg
>
>
When I first called Evans to place my order, I was intending to get the
one with the single 12"- but was sold on the AE with the 8" and the 6"
with a crossover. In thinking about it, there was lots of evidence
that smaller drivers were out there doing a better job of bass
reproduction- i.e. lots of bass players are using the Bose setup with
all of those little 4" speakers, and the RE cabs witht he twin 8"
drivers are getting rave reviews too. In the end, however, I added a
RE stealth 12" and THAT made the sound. But I think that is the RE
effect more so than just driver size- the cabinet design is just as
important, if not more so.

I agree with you about the power switch. My "normal" tone settings on
my AE-200 are bass 1.5, treble 0, body 7, depth on, expand off, scruff
3, master 3, volume 3 or 4, reverb 5.

Jimmy Bruno

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or get a different amp without all those highs!!!!!

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Jack A. Zucker

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My Evans JE200 had no highs even with the treble Dimed!

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JeffJeffH

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"or get a different amp without all those highs!!!!!"

Jimmy,

Which amp would you suggest?

Thanks,

Jeff

icarusi

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Mark Kleinhaut <markkl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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But I think that is the RE
> effect more so than just driver size- the cabinet design is just as
> important, if not more so.

AFICS the RE looks like a tuned port reflex design, so a lot of the
fun will be in which frequency range the tuned port is acting, and the
performance of materials of the cabinet and port compared to a sealed
speaker box of similar dimensions.

Icarusi

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David Stephens

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icarusi <icar...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I'm not familiar with AFICS, but RE is indeed a tuned port reflex design.
The cabinet structure is very rigid and further damped with internal sound
absorbing material. The guitar cabs (as opposed to the bass cabs) are tuned
to sound good with archtops with small adjustments to the baffle placement
and ports until Rich Raezor is pleased with the prototype's tone. Then he
locks in the design and they are very consistent by model. Hence, all the
200 watt Stealth 12s sound like all the other 200 watt Stealth 12s.

As mentioned here before, the forward firing ports, stiff cabinets and fine
tuning, all combine to increase the feedback resistance for most archtops
with this cab design. I did some informal testing a few weeks back that
showed feedback resistance to be 3 to 6 decibels better than the comparable
open backed cabs I had on hand.

Dave

jimmyb

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then you are OK. I've had too many problems with the high end when I was
using them
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> My Evans JE200 had no highs even with the treble Dimed!
>
> --
> --
> Jack A. Zucker
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>
> "Jimmy Bruno" <jbg...@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
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> > or get a different amp without all those highs!!!!!
> >
> > > RE stealth 12" and THAT made the sound. But I think that is the RE

> > > effect more so than just driver size- the cabinet design is just as
> > > important, if not more so.
> > >

JALSRV

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I think the general consensus is that almost anything sounds fantastic with the
RE stuff
Jon

Rick

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Jimmy,

Who makes the Clarus? It sounds like the perfect amp to carry to
rehearsals and not break your back.

Rick Ireland


jimmyb

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here's the url http://www.acousticimg.com/clarus1.html
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Mark Kleinhaut

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In article <NmO85.272939$MB.46...@news6.giganews.com>,

"Jack A. Zucker" <j...@gwis.com> wrote:
> My Evans JE200 had no highs even with the treble Dimed!
>
That seems unusual. Where do you put the tone controls on your various
guitars?

Jack A. Zucker

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"Mark Kleinhaut" <markkl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> In article <NmO85.272939$MB.46...@news6.giganews.com>,
> "Jack A. Zucker" <j...@gwis.com> wrote:
> > My Evans JE200 had no highs even with the treble Dimed!
> >
> That seems unusual. Where do you put the tone controls on your various
> guitars?

All the way up. I rarely turn the tone controls down on the guitar except
when trying for the muffled tone of recent Metheny recordings (such as Trio
99-00)

With my Yamaha G100, the treble is typically at 5 or 6. On the Evans, it was
all the way up and sounded about like the Yamaha on 3. With my JC-120, I
used to keep the treble on 3 or 4.

Jaz

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