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A guitar cable that dos not pop when you plug it in?

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Bill Godwin

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Oct 26, 2009, 3:06:36 PM10/26/09
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Somebody mentioned he had a cable which has some kind of mechanism
whereby when you switch guitars WITHOUT turning the amp off (or
putting it on standby) it doesn't make that massive popping sound when
you plug in again.

Any body know of these?

tia

Bill

JNugent

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Oct 26, 2009, 3:12:54 PM10/26/09
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Here's a British website which advertises them; I'm sure there will be many
USA guitar stores selling the same or a very similar thing.

<http://www.dangleberrymusic.co.uk/p-39-neutrik-black-guitar-lead-30ft10m-straight-jack-to-jack-cable-with-neutrik-silent-plugs.aspx?CAWELAID=346245607>

Mario

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Oct 26, 2009, 3:55:17 PM10/26/09
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Planet Waves has a cable with switch that breaks the circuit.
(Circuit Breaker series see http://store.daddario.com/category/146464/Circuit_Breaker_Series)

I use it to keep the guitar quiet when I put it down, without having
to change the volume settings, or when I'm switching guitars. I got
mine at Guitar Center, but I'm sure you can get them online as well.

Mario
Arlington, VA

Phil

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Oct 26, 2009, 4:10:33 PM10/26/09
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On Oct 26, 3:06 pm, Bill Godwin <billgodwin2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

I have the Planet Waves cable that does this... love it!

bassdiva

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Oct 26, 2009, 7:23:50 PM10/26/09
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"Phil" <pdem...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Yep, Planet Waves me too, Had mine getting on for 2 years now, brilliant,
its nice and long, press the button, it does the job, I don't have to turn
the volume down between numbers in a buzzy room, can leave it between sets
without touching the amp, and the best outcome is that if you leave your
bass and someone picks it up thinking they will impress there mates whilst
the little girly (me) isn't around, they find they don't even know how to
get a sound out of it, they put it back down sheepishly and bugger off. ;~)
Bassdiva

Bill Godwin

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Oct 26, 2009, 11:18:38 PM10/26/09
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Looks like I 'll be heading to the local GC for the Planet Waves
cable ... thanks all!

Bill

Jeremey Poparad

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Oct 27, 2009, 12:13:39 AM10/27/09
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I just pop the cable out of the amp input a bit to disconnect it, then
change what I need to change, and put it back in without any noises.

Gene

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Oct 27, 2009, 3:52:51 AM10/27/09
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There are many switched jack cables. I use Mogami with Neutrik jack
with a switch. Works great.

Bill Godwin

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Oct 27, 2009, 12:23:10 PM10/27/09
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Jeremy ... just tried it! Sweet!!! you just saved me $25 Thanks!!!

Bill

mikeo

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Oct 27, 2009, 7:56:14 PM10/27/09
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if you need straight plugs (not 90 degree plugs), Neutrik does make a
silent plug with a shorting sleeve on the shaft. When you unplug from
the guitar, it goes silent with no pop.

they also make 90 degree plugs, which i bought for my endpin jack
guitars, BUT i was very disappointed to discover that the little
sleeve very often gets stuck up inside the plug (and the plug does not
silence). I made a little video showing the issue to warn people
before they invest in these plugs. The other problem is that if the
jack on your guitar does not grab very tightly, the Neutrik plug will
push itself right out of the guitar, thus unplugging you when you
least expect it. I have certain guitars i can use these with and
others for which it simply will not work.
what a dog!

here's that video clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSZEa1GSf_w

Phil

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Oct 27, 2009, 8:32:10 PM10/27/09
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Or if your amp has a standby switch, use it!

rpjazzguitar

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Oct 28, 2009, 3:30:54 AM10/28/09
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I know this isn't really an answer to the OP, but I have a thought.

I used to frequently forget to turn the amp down when making and
breaking connections. Then, I started playing for a leader who
complained, quite energetically, about it. It wasn't long before I got
into the habit of doing it silently.

My method is partly based on using a volume pedal (part of the ME50)
at all times. All connections on the input side of the me50 are done
with the volume pedal heel-down. All connections on the output side
(this refers pretty much to the cable going into the amp) are done
with the amp volume off.

Once you get in the habit of doing it right, you don't need the
special cable.

Chickenhead

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Oct 28, 2009, 8:51:43 AM10/28/09
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I'm on my third or fourth replacement under their Lifetime warranty. They
suck and always crap out on me on the gig. If I hadn't stopped using 'em
after the second one crapped out on the job, I probably would have been
through fifty or sixty of them. I will never buy another Planet Waves
guitar cable.

Hopefully, there are better ways to accomplish the same result.

"Bill Godwin" <billgod...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Jiri Pejchal

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Oct 28, 2009, 9:57:23 AM10/28/09
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Keith Freeman

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Oct 28, 2009, 11:14:54 AM10/28/09
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I once had a cable with one of those spring-loaded jacks, but didn't find
it satisfactory (the spring was too strong). Many years ago a friend of
mine had one with a little switch on the jack, which worked fine, but I've
never seen those since.

-Keith

Clips, Portable Changes, tips etc.: www.keithfreemantrio.nl
e-mail: info AT keithfreemantrio DOT nl

guitarannie

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Oct 28, 2009, 3:13:22 PM10/28/09
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I have 2 planet waves cables that just started to pop on their own
while I'm playing.
So today I'm replacing the ends with standard stuff.

SAS

damonseed

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Oct 29, 2009, 4:14:37 AM10/29/09
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planet waves has one with a cut switch that is pretty good and when it
breaks my friends cut it and replace the swtch...apparently. i have
one and it has lasted a least a yr

Jazzer

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Oct 29, 2009, 3:30:27 PM10/29/09
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On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:13:39 -0700 (PDT), Jeremey Poparad
<pop...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>I just pop the cable out of the amp input a bit to disconnect it, then
>change what I need to change, and put it back in without any noises.


I was just about to mention the same thing.

I discovered long ago that if you unplug at the guitar end you'll get
those massive pops, but if you unplug at the amp end you won't.

I just remember now to first unplug at the amp, do the changes and
then *after* plugging in the guitar, I plug back into the amp.

So once you're plugged in, you unplug from the amp first.
If you haven't plugged in yet, you plug in the guitar first and then
the amp.
If the amp is off, the order obviously doesn't matter.

t...@platterivermusic.com

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Dec 5, 2013, 3:28:13 AM12/5/13
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Hey Guys,...and Bill.....
I have owned a guitar shop here in downtown Casper Wyoming for the last 17 years. I am the only employee...and I live in an apartment I built in the back of the shop. I have been at this a long time.

The "gadgets" and flashy shiny colors type gear are simply different ways to make you spend money....because you think you will be better somehow when you play, or you will play better, or sound better with red strings........( remember the "guitar strings of many colors? lol....or even further back...remember Nashville Straights? ) .... ya have folks coating strings and telling you they last longer, but don't mention too loudly they cost 5 times as much as a regular set. Don't forget, as those coated strings on your acoustic guitar are growing older and older, I am playing a fresh set of Martins 5 times for about the same cost as your one set...and, while your coated strings die a slow death, I get to play new strings 5 times or so.
Anyway..I digress.....Bill! I tried bringing in a few of the Planet Wave cords, and I am here to tell you....don't waste yer money! Sure...I guess they work ok, IF you switch the switch!!! but if your cord gets yanked out somehow, or you don't get the switch switched completely, the rig still pops when it unplugs.......because you have to remember to throw a switch to make 'em work! Throw a switch? Fergit it...might as well turn the amp on standby or sumpthing. Pull the cord out at the amp? Sure! Perfect! Easy! But it still doesn't solve the yanked cord problem...there are cords out there that do solve it though. Just do a seqarch for a "No pop" guitar cord. That's what I just did. They are out there...and ya don't have to deal with a manual switch. It just does it for you, even when someone yanks yer chain...
There are lots of ways to solve the problem....one of my customers who is also a long time friend has a cord that has a little tiny rod that gets pushed in when he plugs in...doesn't make a sound...either way...even if it is an accidental "unplugging.." THAT is handy..and he has had it for 25 years!!! ..but a manual switch really does not solve much of anything,costs a lot of extra dough, and you still HAVE to remember to switch the switch before you unplug!
I am a store owner, and I like to make money....BUT...I would forget spending money on these sorts of things, and concentrate on gettin' yer chops together and playin' gigs! .....maybe even make a little dough! hahahaha...so you can save it up and buy a beat up old Tele that sounds amazing. lol
I hope you all take this little piece of advise in the spirit it was intended...it's just I hate to see the corporations take your dollars and give you empty promises. 90% or more of the stuff that comes out every year is nothing but marketing ploys to take yer money...Remember...Robert Johnson drove nails into the side of an old barn, and strung wire on 'em....and some of you are still playing his songs to this very day....THAT's what matters!
Thanks fer reading my comment...
Thomas MacWilliams ( Facebook)
Casper, Wyoming

GuyB

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Dec 5, 2013, 8:45:46 AM12/5/13
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These Rean plugs will work, they ground the signal when not inserted and they're inexpensive. I'll get some and let you if they are any good.

http://www.rean-connectors.com/en/products/1/4-plugs/nys224s

ott...@hotmail.com

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Dec 5, 2013, 5:27:11 PM12/5/13
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> I just pop the cable out of the amp input a bit to disconnect it, then
> change what I need to change, and put it back in without any noises.

Heh, Great Idea, Thanks.
Of course, until I get used to doing that, I'm gonna panic a few times when I go back to play and thinking my amps not working :-)
Bg

Steve Freides

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Dec 6, 2013, 10:58:16 AM12/6/13
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Does anyone make guitar cables using these connectors? I'd try one if
already made up - don't want to roll my own, though.

-S-


GuyB

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Dec 6, 2013, 3:39:06 PM12/6/13
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This in the US:

http://tinyurl.com/qa49v3y

Nate Najar

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Dec 6, 2013, 9:03:36 PM12/6/13
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Neutrik has a connector with a spring mechanism to short the signal- when you plug it in, the collar pushes back against the spring and the connection is made, passing signal. It's pretty elegant and easy and you can put it on any cable.

ic

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Dec 7, 2013, 6:04:21 PM12/7/13
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http://www.neutrik.com/en/audio/plugs-and-jacks/professional-1/4-plugs/silentplug/http://www.switchcraft.com/productsummary.aspx?Parent=980A fella I knew was making and selling them with the Neutrik plain one end,and with a silent straight or right-angle the other end. For a bit moremoney he put a silent straight on the end of a silent right-angle. It's sogood I never take it out, for fear of losing it or having it nicked.--icarusi

ic

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Dec 7, 2013, 6:07:22 PM12/7/13
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"Steve Freides" <st...@kbnj.com> wrote in message
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> Does anyone make guitar cables using these connectors? I'd try one if
> already made up - don't want to roll my own, though.

http://www.yourspares.co.uk/parts/ys117935/ultra-low-capacitance-guitar-lead-with-neutrik-mono-jack-np2x-to-neutrik-silent-guitar-jack-np2c-au--G039CJ.aspx?utm_source=google&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=Google%2BProducts&gclid=CNvVwfOcn7sCFUbKtAodznAAgQ
--

icarusi


ic

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Dec 7, 2013, 6:13:18 PM12/7/13
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<ic> wrote in message
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>> A fella I knew was making and selling them with the Neutrik plain one
>> end,and with a silent straight or right-angle the other end. For a bit
>> moremoney he put a silent straight on the end of a silent right-angle.
>> It's sogood I never take it out, for fear of losing it or having it
>> nicked.--icarusi

This is the guy:-

http://www.award-session.com/cleartone_cables.html

Scroll down for prices on 'silent' and lengeths. Also does custom cables to
suit.
--

icarusi


Arthur Quinn

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Dec 8, 2013, 5:19:05 AM12/8/13
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I have found the right angle version of the Neutrik plug to be rather
fragile. I have had two that have failed by the plug shaft coming loose
from the body so that the switch collar no longer moves freely. It
looks as if the amount of metal that needed to be removed to put in the
reed switch and the magnetic collar was rather excessive.

Arthur

--
Arthur Quinn
real-email arthur at bellacat dot com

Lord Valve

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Dec 8, 2013, 7:55:51 AM12/8/13
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There are several versions of the Switchcraft "Silent Plug."

The one with the large barrel and the rubber-ring compression
strain bushing is especially rugged - I've seen these last 20
years in the field. Switchcraft has been building these plugs
longer than the Neutrik company has been in existence - they
have it down. ;-)

Lord Valve
Organist




Bill Williams

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Dec 8, 2013, 9:03:27 AM12/8/13
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I was interested to see that site also specialises in Sessionette amps. Good to know they are still going - I had one one for about 20 years and it served me well.

ic

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Dec 8, 2013, 5:23:48 PM12/8/13
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"Bill Williams" <bwbillwi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I haven't seen him for a while. The 22 watt 'module' looks interesting but
I'd like to hear/try one before buying. The 'secret' of the Sessionette amps
was a very efficient speaker, so although it was 'only' 75 watts it was
louder than many higher wattage amps. The large speaker magnet added to the
overall weight, although modern neo magnets could improve that and still
keep the performance.
--

icarusi


GuyB

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Dec 9, 2013, 8:15:16 AM12/9/13
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Lord Valve

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Dec 9, 2013, 10:30:41 AM12/9/13
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...

Chinese plugs. 24G center conductor. Spiral shield.
Sells for $9.44 at Full compass, and they're making
a profit at that price.

Information-dense translation: CRAP. Caveat emptor.

What you want is a length of Canare GS-6 (18G center
lead, braid shield, Japanese manuf.) with the large-barrel
Switchcraft silent plug on it. It'll work fine, last a long time.

Lord Valve
Cable maker - 50+ yrs experience


GuyB

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Dec 9, 2013, 11:13:14 AM12/9/13
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Yes I agree, making your own cables is better, then you can fix them too, I've been making my own cables for 190+ years, Michael Faraday showed me how to solder plugs onto a cable way back in the 1820's.

Have fun
Guy (Michael Faraday's apprentice)

TD

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Dec 9, 2013, 11:17:38 AM12/9/13
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Good advice and makes me want to order take-out tonight!

DannyW.

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Dec 9, 2013, 2:26:11 PM12/9/13
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On Sunday, December 8, 2013 3:19:05 AM UTC-7, Arthur Quinn wrote:

>
>
>
> I have found the right angle version of the Neutrik plug to be rather
>
> fragile. I have had two that have failed by the plug shaft coming loose
>
> from the body so that the switch collar no longer moves freely. It
>
> looks as if the amount of metal that needed to be removed to put in the
>
> reed switch and the magnetic collar was rather excessive.
>
>
>
> Arthur

I have a pair of cables that I've been using at home for four years that have a Neutrik right angle on one end. They are swapped between guitars several times a day and have been working fine so far.

My stage amps have mute switches and I take only one guitar to gigs, so I don't use switched cables for gigs.

Danny W.

Lord Valve

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Dec 9, 2013, 2:58:18 PM12/9/13
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Hey, fucknutz -

I *have* been making cables for over 50 years. Many of
them are on top tours. They ain't cheap crap, like the
horse-shit you linked. Remember - "The bitterness of
low quality will be tasted long after the sweetness of
low price is forgotten." Fuck bedroom jammer gear.

Lord Valve
Expert




GuyB

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Dec 9, 2013, 3:08:42 PM12/9/13
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The Chinese have invented many things, including paper, silk, matches, wheelbarrows, gunpowder, the decimal system, the waterwheel, the sundial, astronomy, porcelain china, lacquer paint, pottery wheel, fireworks, paper money, compass, tangrams, seismograph, medicines, dominoes, jump rope, kites, tea, folding umbrella, ink, calligraphy, animal harness, playing cards, printing, abacus, wallpaper, the crossbow, ice cream, and ... obviously cheap guitar cables.

Many thanks for your wisdom and abuse over the years dear "Lord Valve".
Guy

TD

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Dec 9, 2013, 4:25:12 PM12/9/13
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You forgot Spaghetti, which was brought to Italy by Marco Polo. The jury remains out on the ice cream claim. Marco did bring back something resembling sherbert (how he brought it back without melting is beyond me), but early ice cream was already claimed by Persia, Rome and England way before.

Lord Valve

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Dec 9, 2013, 5:16:00 PM12/9/13
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...

Not likely, as most Asians are lactose intolerant.
That's why Jap pizza got no cheese on it...

LV


GuyB

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Dec 10, 2013, 11:14:49 AM12/10/13
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On Thursday, 5 December 2013 13:45:46 UTC, GuyB wrote:
> These Rean plugs will work, they ground the signal when not inserted and they're inexpensive. I'll get some and let you if they are any good.
>
>
>
> http://www.rean-connectors.com/en/products/1/4-plugs/nys224s

http://www.rean-connectors.com/en/products/1/4-plugs/nys224s

I've purchased two inexpensive Rean silent plugs, The plugs have a simply but sturdy design and easy to use. I've soldered one plug to the end of two cables, one short cable for my EQ pedal, one long cable for the amp. They work fine, so I'll use them every day and let you know if there are any problems.

Guy

ic

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Dec 12, 2013, 6:23:10 PM12/12/13
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"Arthur Quinn" <art...@invalid-domain.co.uk> wrote in message
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> I have found the right angle version of the Neutrik plug to be rather
> fragile. I have had two that have failed by the plug shaft coming loose
> from the body so that the switch collar no longer moves freely. It looks
> as if the amount of metal that needed to be removed to put in the reed
> switch and the magnetic collar was rather excessive.

Right angle plugs, unless bulkier than the straight version, are usually a
compromise. I mostly use 'plan B', pulling the plug slightly from the amp
but left in the socket. It seemed to be standard 'jam' etiquette at one
time, as players swapped into amps mid-tune.
--

icarusi


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