Best archtop for the money?
Zappabark
guitar - i.e. no serious money, for dumb gigs, etc Does anyone have any
recommendations?
Spence
Max Leggett
>guitar - i.e. no serious money, for dumb gigs, etc Does anyone have any
>recommendations?
>
of good info there. I bought my Eip JP in large part because of what I
read there.
OASYSCO
wherein the only thing I do is convince myself to buy yet another guitar, I
must agree with Max on looking at the FAQ.
Greg
Chris Johnson
but when the smoke clears, an Epiphone Joe Pass model
will be one of the contenders if you like the neck shape,
I'll bet.
I had a Washburn J-60 Montgomery model that had an
INCREDIBLE neck. It took as low an action as any
guitar you or anybody else has EVER seen. 1/32nd of
an inch at the 12th fret, high E string, no buzzing
with a light touch! Low E string at 3/64ths at 12th
fret. The neck shape is also very thin like an Ibanez
thin neck and the width at the nut was about average,
like a Gibson Les Paul or slightly narrower.
So, those are worth looking into as well.
CJ
Joe Novack
> guitar - i.e. no serious money, for dumb gigs, etc Does anyone have any
> recommendations?
For DUMB gigs????
Hmmm......
T.M.GLASS
:> Though I am highly tempted to launch into one of my "cheapo archtop" tirades
:> wherein the only thing I do is convince myself to buy yet another guitar
I have a FENIX FAE-2 which is identical to a Washburn model. Fenix was the
guitar making arm of a company called Youngchang that was better known for
it's pianos. I think the company may have gone belly up. Anyway the sales
man told me that Fenix was making the Washburns at the time (although I
think later batches/other models of Washburn were made by different Korean
factories.) My Fenix is as good as Mr Johnson described his Washburn
below.
I came across a very similar model ephiphone (although not sure of the
model) and it was pretty poor in comparison - weak base response and
tinny sounding poor setup and generally unloved. If you can find a Fenix
I'd expect you'd get a better deal than an Ephiphone. Don't know about the
Washburn prices.
BTW A pic of the fenix is at http://www.sogang.ac.kr/~glasstm/intrum.html
Chris Johnson <cmjo...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
: I had a Washburn J-60 Montgomery model that had an
: INCREDIBLE neck. It took as low an action as any
: guitar you or anybody else has EVER seen. 1/32nd of
: an inch at the 12th fret, high E string, no buzzing
: with a light touch! Low E string at 3/64ths at 12th
: fret. The neck shape is also very thin like an Ibanez
: thin neck and the width at the nut was about average,
: like a Gibson Les Paul or slightly narrower.
: So, those are worth looking into as well.
Sure :-)
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OASYSCO
>:> Though I am highly tempted to launch into one of my "cheapo archtop"
>tirades
>:> wherein the only thing I do is convince myself to buy yet another guitar
>I'd be interested in hearing a SHORT version of the cheap archtop tirdae.
I see that you stressed SHORT, but SHORT (as in brief) and archtops just don't
equate in my book :) Anyway, I've said more than enough before, I guess.
Anything that I'd say now would be repetitive, though I am not above that :)
Short tirade follows...
As for cheap archtops, don't discount used and even vintage models. Granted
that some older guitars have neck reset or "ski slope" problems, but some can
be real winners, too. Here's a pointer to a lost love - one of the ones I
regret selling to this day and there have been others like the L-5 copy I
recently sold.
http://www.geocities.com/oasysco/siltone.htm
Greg
Larry Vigneault
money. I have a friend who ordered one the next day after playing mine. He likes
it better than the Heritage 575 he used to own. Best price I've found is through
Jon Ray at http://www.wichitaband.com
Zappabark
Benedetto - like wedding cocktail houirs, etc.
Spence
"Joe Novack" <jno...@ns.gemlink.com> wrote in message
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Zappabark
by "beater" and "cheap" is more like "best value" for the money. For
example, I have heard that Gibson's 175's as of late are overpriced,
although I'm sure a great guitar - same goes for the ?165? Herb Ellis deal;
whereas, DeArmond X-155's are supposedly definitely worth the money.
That FAQ is quite informative indeed (I'm glad someone reminded me of the
link again, because I had lost it) but by no means the last word on lower
priced quality archtops, which is why I asked you guys :-) I'm sorry if
the topic of "budget" archtops is constantly rehashed. It's been awhile
since I've posted here.
Spence
"OASYSCO" <oas...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Nick Carver
at the low end, Dean Jazz Stylist (two models, from $350-450) and what I
have, a Cort Joe Beck. I've tried them all and I like the Cort the best.
Usually in the $5-600 range.
I've never played a Jay Turser, but if you really want cheap they might work
(many models to choose from).
Another option is to hunt around for used. I just saw a Ventura Barney
Kessel for $400. This is a late '60s lawsuit model virtually identical to
the Encore or Ibanez versions. It had a very nice neck (a little narrow,
though) and some marks on the body (what do you want from a 30 year old
guitar). Guitars like this can be had. Saw a late '70s Ibanez Howard Roberts
at Guitar Center for $600 a few months ago (had a broken bridge, that is
easily replaced).
Finally, a used Ibanez AS80 should be about $350 and is a very nice 335
style guitar.
Nick
P.S. How about a cheap Tele and swap the pickups?
"Zappabark" <zapp...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Ken Cashion
wrote:
>Yeah, I know - cheap guitars are never a good thing. I guess what I meant
>by "beater" and "cheap" is more like "best value" for the money.
<snip of good stuff>
I am in the process of taking a '60-ish cheapo arch top and
converting it to the best playing cheapo guitar there is.
And after all my work, I will have a....yep, just another
cheapo guitar. No matter what, that is what it will be no matter how
much I enjoy playing it.
Buy used...but buy good.
Unless you want a particular cheapo arch top.
Cheers -- Ken Cashion
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Mark Guest
tuners were changed. The neck was _way_ thin, however. I am about ready to
let go of another BK of the same vintage branded "Conrad". Also jap made in
the 60's or early 70's. The neck is much nicer than the Ventura...just
slightly chunkier than my L-5. Very comfortable to play. Let me know if
you're interested, or watch for the FA notice. I like the practice of
pre-posting guitars FS before they go to auction. I just wish that I had
jumped on Greg's jap L-5 a few months back!
--
Mark Guest
JazzerWB at muni-net dot com
"Nick Carver" <carver...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Randy Graves
http://www.sogang.ac.kr/~glasstm/instrum.html
Some interesting looking guitars (and bass) there!
"T.M.GLASS" wrote:
>
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>
> BTW A pic of the fenix is at http://www.sogang.ac.kr/~glasstm/intrum.html
>
>8 . . .
Zappabark
Spence
"Zappabark" <zapp...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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HSCRC
for $200.- 250. Vic Reyes
Dunlop212
http://www.broadwaymusicco.com/HARMONY.htm
and then a month prowling ebay and pawn shops.
Look for an old harmony with DeArmond designed Rowe pickups. A rule of
thumb is that if it has a working truss rod, two piece tailpiece, and
fancy binding, it's probably a keeper. Many have baseball bat neck
profiles with wide (1.75 inch) nut widths, and sound phenomenal.
Also, check out:
http://www.fatdawg.com
JuJu Voodoo
has entered Gretsch territory, and really is sweet. For a straight ahead
jazz
box, I would go with a new Samick Big Apple, in the signature (Bennett)
series. 5 bills (that can't last long with Gibbie in the picture) with
hardshell case. Big Apple probably (no doubt) the best bang for buck out
there
right now. The Jay Turser I tried had a very nice neck, but the sound left
something to be desired. I imagine Turser will get better and better at it.
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OASYSCO
>has entered Gretsch territory, and really is sweet. For a straight ahead
>jazz
>box, I would go with a new Samick Big Apple, in the signature (Bennett)
>series. 5 bills (that can't last long with Gibbie in the picture) with
>hardshell case. Big Apple probably (no doubt) the best bang for buck out
>there
>right now.
That one looks a whole lot like my Epi JP except that it has a sharp cutaway
with a little extra room (ala Gibbie's recent Howard Roberts).
http://www.kwim-v.com/pics/samick/artistseries/jz213ncol.jpg
Greg