Ibanez Artist with f-holes?
Mark Smart
it. This guitar is shaped like a solidbody Ibanez Artist (the double
cutaway Les Paul kind) but semi-hollow with f-holes. I am wondering if
there are other guitars available in this configuration. It looks to
me like the Ibanez Artcore AM-73 is similar.
This setup provides a great combination of ergonomics and tone for me,
so I'm curious if there are other guitars like this around. Did Ibanez
make one of these back in their lawsuit days?
Mark Smart
Jim Kaznosky
them as well.
Jim
Jim Kaznosky
them as well.
Jim
thom_j.
axe.. cheers tee'jay
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Nick Naffin
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Ibanez used to have a whole line of semiacoustic Artists in the early
eighties, starting with the AS 50, via the AS100 to the AS200. If I recall
correctly, the difference between these and their solidbody Artist models
was not only the hollow body and f-holes, but also a different shape of
double cutaway. I seem to remember the solidbody having a sort of rounded,
but still a bit pointed cutaway, maybe a little like the Yamaha SG models of
old, whereas the semiacoustics with their rounded cutaway were clearly a
take on Gibson 335s.
There used to be a limited edition AS80, which in my 'electric days' was
a nice guitar. Nowadays, Ibanez sells an only very slightly revamped AS200
as the 'John Scofield' model for twice the price.
Nick
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they're a very different shape from the 335's. It's a similar instrument, but
I wish they'd put the binding over the edge of the frets. Ibanez never does
and that's one thing I don't like about their guitars.
I really like the Turser 175 copy with the 24 fret neck. That's a nice little
guitar.
Clif Kuplen
Jerry Carden
AM255 (this one had a Strat-like whammy bar!) were all the same size
as the Turser JT-134DC. The quality (and price) were considerably
different. I have owned all the above-mentioned axes, including the
Turser. The Ibanez guitars are top-notch. However, there's a lot of
bang for the buck with the Turser, and it's a good example of how the
Chinese are entering the guitar market with a vengeance.
On 10 Dec 2002 08:48:59 -0800, mws...@InsightBB.com (Mark Smart)
wrote:
Mark Smart
about the 335-style guitars, but I MEANT to ask about guitars like the
Turser JT-134DC I played, i.e. fits this description:
1. Body is shaped like solidbody Ibanez artist, i.e. double
cutaway Les Paul. Much smaller, lighter body than a 335.
2. Is semi hollow and has f-holes.
There's a great picture of the JT-134DC here:
http://www.jayturserguitars.com
I've seen very few guitars like this, which is what makes me wonder if
there are more out there.
Mark Smart
Christophe Pinson
écrit:
>I should have worded that more clearly...it sounded like I was asking
>about the 335-style guitars, but I MEANT to ask about guitars like the
>Turser JT-134DC I played, i.e. fits this description:
>
>1. Body is shaped like solidbody Ibanez artist, i.e. double
> cutaway Les Paul. Much smaller, lighter body than a 335.
>2. Is semi hollow and has f-holes.
>
I just had a look at the JT134DC picture : what a nice looking guitar
! The size, shape of cutaways and f-holes seems nearly identical to my
beloved Ibanez Artist AM 70 . The AM series had this "335 but smaller
than 335 "design. I would need to make some measurements on the
picture in order to make sure the dimensions are identical though.
More on the Ibanez AM line here :
http://www.speakeasy.org/~sven/site/index.html.
Anyway, these JT axes look nice, did anyone try them ?
thom_j.
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I like the AM200-205 & 255. I always wanted a Ibanez like this but
they were just never "lefty" friendly.. Nice guitars.. cheers thom_j.
Mark Smart
> Ibanez did indeed make similar sized models. The AM-200, AM-205, and
> AM255 (this one had a Strat-like whammy bar!) were all the same size
> as the Turser JT-134DC. The quality (and price) were considerably
> different. I have owned all the above-mentioned axes, including the
> Turser. The Ibanez guitars are top-notch. However, there's a lot of
> bang for the buck with the Turser, and it's a good example of how the
> Chinese are entering the guitar market with a vengeance.
Thanks, man!
Mark Smart
Mark Smart
> Le 10 Dec 2002 18:24:49 -0800, mws...@InsightBB.com (Mark Smart)
> écrit:
>
> ! The size, shape of cutaways and f-holes seems nearly identical to my
> beloved Ibanez Artist AM 70 . The AM series had this "335 but smaller
> than 335 "design. I would need to make some measurements on the
> picture in order to make sure the dimensions are identical though.
> More on the Ibanez AM line here :
> http://www.speakeasy.org/~sven/site/index.html.
Wow, thanks for that great link. Did any of the Ibanez AM's have
bolt-on necks, or were they all glued? I know with their Les Paul
copies there was great variation in construction...I have a lawsuit
Les Paul with a carved top and a set neck, but I've also seen them
with a pressed-plywood-over-air-gap top and a set neck, or a bolt-on
neck and a carved top, or a pressed top and a bolt-on neck. So I am
wondering if the AM's had similar variations. There are two AM50's on
ebay right now. I think I will skip the Jay Turser and hold out for an
old Ibanez.
Mark Smart
Craig
early 80's. This is a 335 style guitar but with a body size larger than an
AM series Ibanez but smaller than a 335. The early ones had very hot
pickups (with no pickup covers) but the later ones had the Ibanez Super 58
PAF copies (with pickup covers) which are way smoother and nicer IMO. All
335 style Ibanez guitars from this era had glued-in necks.
Craig
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John Shanley
> Wow, thanks for that great link. Did any of the Ibanez AM's have
> bolt-on necks, or were they all glued? I know with their Les Paul
> copies there was great variation in construction...I have a lawsuit
> Les Paul with a carved top and a set neck, but I've also seen them
> with a pressed-plywood-over-air-gap top and a set neck, or a bolt-on
> neck and a carved top, or a pressed top and a bolt-on neck. So I am
> wondering if the AM's had similar variations. There are two AM50's on
> ebay right now. I think I will skip the Jay Turser and hold out for an
> old Ibanez.
Check out Craig's reply below for answers to your questions. If you
want more information about the AS50/AM series, try this site:
http://www.ibanezcollectors.com/discus
You can do a Keyword Search on "AS50" or "AS" or "AM" and read lots of
stuff. I can't remember reading that anyone has disliked any of these
guitars.
JohnS
ICW
Christophe Pinson
écrit:
>christoph...@freesbee.fr (Christophe Pinson) wrote in message news:<3df72a96...@news.free.fr>...
>> Le 10 Dec 2002 18:24:49 -0800, mws...@InsightBB.com (Mark Smart)
>> écrit:
>>
>> I just had a look at the JT134DC picture : what a nice looking guitar
>> ! The size, shape of cutaways and f-holes seems nearly identical to my
>> beloved Ibanez Artist AM 70 . The AM series had this "335 but smaller
>> than 335 "design. I would need to make some measurements on the
>> picture in order to make sure the dimensions are identical though.
>> More on the Ibanez AM line here :
>> http://www.speakeasy.org/~sven/site/index.html.
>
>Wow, thanks for that great link. Did any of the Ibanez AM's have
>bolt-on necks, or were they all glued? I know with their Les Paul
>copies there was great variation in construction...I have a lawsuit
>Les Paul with a carved top and a set neck, but I've also seen them
>with a pressed-plywood-over-air-gap top and a set neck, or a bolt-on
>neck and a carved top, or a pressed top and a bolt-on neck. So I am
>wondering if the AM's had similar variations. There are two AM50's on
>ebay right now. I think I will skip the Jay Turser and hold out for an
>old Ibanez.
>
>Mark Smart
The AM 50 has super 58 pickups, which are good PAF replicas, with a
fat bottom end. A used AM 50 can be a good deal, compared to the JT
line ( assessing you'll probably have to change the pups in a JT ). i
have never seen an AM guitar with bolt-on neck; but I donno every AM
deries model. Some later Artstar models have bolt -on necks though. Be
careful : AM cases are hard to find ( non-standard shape and size );
MF sells " ibanez cases " that are supposed to fit the AM line.
onlyserious
since I bought it used for $325 about 15 years ago is an 1982 Ibanez
AS-50, accurately described below (except I don't notice it being any
smaller than a 335) with the covers on the pick-ups. I consider this
guitar to be superior to any of the 335s I've ever played (and I've
owned two)--the Gibsons just seem "flimsy" with far less sustain, more
"nasal" regardless of tone control settings (on my Ibanez the controls
actually work). The neck is flatter than (most) 335's with the
approximate width of my Strat--no problem going from one to another.
This guitar was the bottom of the line in its day, but its day was
during the golden years for Japanese craftsmanship. It lacks the
fancy pearl of Scofield's, with dot inlays...but the finish, binding,
fretwork is all as nice as any guitar I've played. I have it strung
with Chrome 11's and it is an all-around great guitar--from warm jazz
to a great Robin Ford tone. Plays well through any amp. If you see
one in a shop, you owe it to yourself to pick it up--and it'll be
surprisingly affordable, no doubt. Very underated. Samuel
Christophe Pinson
écrit:
>Yes!! Finally someone speaks to the guitar of my life--My main axe
>since I bought it used for $325 about 15 years ago is an 1982 Ibanez
>AS-50, accurately described below (except I don't notice it being any
>smaller than a 335) with the covers on the pick-ups. I consider this
>guitar to be superior to any of the 335s I've ever played (and I've
>owned two)--the Gibsons just seem "flimsy" with far less sustain, more
>"nasal" regardless of tone control settings (on my Ibanez the controls
>actually work). The neck is flatter than (most) 335's with the
>approximate width of my Strat--no problem going from one to another.
>This guitar was the bottom of the line in its day, but its day was
>during the golden years for Japanese craftsmanship. It lacks the
>fancy pearl of Scofield's, with dot inlays...but the finish, binding,
>fretwork is all as nice as any guitar I've played. I have it strung
>with Chrome 11's and it is an all-around great guitar--from warm jazz
>to a great Robin Ford tone. Plays well through any amp. If you see
>one in a shop, you owe it to yourself to pick it up--and it'll be
>surprisingly affordable, no doubt. Very underated. Samuel
>
>> Craig
Another member of the cryptic sect of Old Ibanez Lovers ....welcome.
Bradster
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> Mark:
>
> http://www.ibanezcollectors.com/discus
>
> JohnS
> ICW
Another great Ibanez site for enthusiasts and collectors is
http://www.ibanezvintage.com/
I have a rare, top of the line Ibanez MC-500 Musician Artist that I got back
in 1978 for $1200CDN. I had to sell it for next to nothing about 15 years
ago in order to pay off debts (what an idiot I was). I finally noticed the
same guitar on eBay in Germany and snapped it up for about $700CDN. I feel
pretty good about the investment after seeing one sell on eBay for $1300US
recently. Those old "Made in Japan" Ibanez guitars are some of the best
ever made.
Cheers,
Brad
http://members.shaw.ca/bdhay02/bradster_rig.htm
John Shanley
Right. Jim Donahue's site was pretty much the start for Ibanez fans.
> I have a rare, top of the line Ibanez MC-500 Musician Artist that I got back
> in 1978 for $1200CDN.
It's a beauty! The perfect hybrid for an Artist lover. I've never seen
a model number associated with one of these before. The only MC500s
I've seen have had offset horns, EQs and vines on the neck.
> Those old "Made in Japan" Ibanez guitars are some of the best
> ever made.
No argument here!
JohnS
ICW
John Shanley
> My main axe
> since I bought it used for $325 about 15 years ago is an 1982 Ibanez
> AS-50, accurately described below (except I don't notice it being any
> smaller than a 335) with the covers on the pick-ups.
At Ibanez Collectors World we've tracked 3 different sized semi-hollow
guitars. The AS line is/was mainly full sized (ES335). The AM series
was the smaller sized (but larger than the Artist solidbodies). For a
very short time ('79-80, maybe) they did put out an AS50 that was
bigger than the AMs, but not a full sized. Many think this early AS50
is the "bridge" between the full-sized ASs and the soon-to-come AM
series. There's a picture of one at:
http://www.ibanezcollectors.com/discus/messages/16/4080.html?
> Very underated.
Shhhh....don't tell anyone. :-)
JohnS
ICW
Bradster
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>
> > I have a rare, top of the line Ibanez MC-500 Musician Artist that I got
back
> > in 1978 for $1200CDN.
>
> It's a beauty! The perfect hybrid for an Artist lover. I've never seen
> a model number associated with one of these before. The only MC500s
> I've seen have had offset horns, EQs and vines on the neck.
>
You may be right. I don't recall a model number either. Just that it was
an Ibanez Artist "Musician Series" and it had ever bell and whistle on it.
When I purchased it off eBay, the seller had the model number. I've kept an
eye on eBay and have noticed the MC-500 model reference with one other
guitar (with symmetrical horns).
Can anyone here confirm if the model I mentioned has a model number? See my
link below for some pics (not of the actual guitar I purchased but the very
same model). I have to put up some new pics of the gear I have and add some
sound clips when I get some spare time...
That would be after I...
- run some cabling for a home network
- finish painting a woodwork project
- hang the Christmas lites outside
- change the oil in the car
- do the dishes
Brad
Bradster
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>
> When I purchased it off eBay, the seller had the model number. I've kept
an
> eye on eBay and have noticed the MC-500 model reference with one other
> guitar (with symmetrical horns).
>
> Can anyone here confirm if the model I mentioned has a model number? See
my
> link below for some pics (not of the actual guitar I purchased but the
very
> same model).
>
Oops, forgot the link.
http://members.shaw.ca/bdhay02/IbanezArtist.htm
Brad
onlyserious
like the picture on the collector site--except mine has the pickup
covers, and I've added a fine-tuning stop--requiring no permanent
modifications. As far as the size goes--mine is 15.5" at the widest,
10 and 5/8" accross the cutaways, and about 40.5" from top to bottom.
The label says "Artist Semi Acoustic Series" and is stamped AS50, but
the serial number line on the label is blank. It has the truss-rod
cover plate that says "Artist," and on the back of the neck at the top
is the serial number F824513 and the phrase "Crafted in Japan." (On
the outside chance you're interested.) I appreciate the link to the
collector site. Samuel