Epi. <-> Samick, other archtop sleepers?
Stan Gosnell
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> I would really like to know if there is any difference in
> quality / sound between the Epiphone Broadway and the
> Samick La Salle JZ 3. Has anyone compared these guitars
> directly?
I haven't played that model Samick, but note that Samick makes
the Epi. They make lots of brands for others, plus their own,
and they all come out of the same factory. I'd expect the
quality to be comparable on comparable model guitars.
--
Regards,
Stan
George Prager
The guitar has the DeArmond Goldtone pups which some people don't like (very
mid-range-y and supposedly not suitable for a jazz box) but I actually quite
like them, especially as I mix some blues into our jazz setlist. A very
nice, beautifully built guitar. The actual guitar is a sort of Guild
knock-off and Guild in turn was purchased by Fender so you're essentially
playing a Korean made, Fender owned Guild copy with DeArmond electronics....
;-)
George
"Peter Schoen" <Peter.REMOV...@epost.de> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I am looking for an "inexpensive" archtop ($700 - $1100) for T-Bone Walker
> styled Blues, etc. Unfortunately most dealers in my area (Europe) don't
> stock these guitars.
>
> I would really like to know if there is any difference in quality / sound
> between the Epiphone Broadway and the Samick La Salle JZ 3. Has anyone
> compared these guitars directly?
>
> Do you consider these guitars as a viable alternative to the more
expensive
> ones, or are they only pretty furniture, i.e. should I stick to my Strat
;-)
>
> Do these brands offer a pretty consistent quality these days or do I have
to
> be very cautious to not receive a lemon (I will most likely have to buy
the
> guitar by mail order)?
>
> I thought/hoped another sleeper might be the Epiphone Elitist Broadway,
but
> this instrument seems to cost nearly as much as a Heritage. IMO I do not
> play good enough yet to justify paying that much money for a guitar.
>
> Are there any other recommendations?
>
> Very best wishes
>
> -Peter-
>
Karissa
humbucker and synth access.
Karissa
"Jack A. Zucker" <j...@jackzucker.com> wrote in message
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> Check out the Godin Flat 5. It's one of the best guitars I've played in
> years.
tomw
says...
> Hi,
>
> I am looking for an "inexpensive" archtop ($700 - $1100) for T-Bone Walker
> styled Blues, etc. Unfortunately most dealers in my area (Europe) don't
> stock these guitars.
> Are there any other recommendations?
>
> Very best wishes
>
> -Peter-
>
>
Some years back Duke Robilard used an Epiphone Joe Pass to play T-Bone
style. Sounded good.
--
Tom Walls
the guy at the Temple of Zeus
http://www.arts.cornell.edu/zeus/
Max Leggett
wrote:
>In article <bqglhg$ql5$1...@online.de>, Peter.REMOV...@epost.de
>says...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am looking for an "inexpensive" archtop ($700 - $1100) for T-Bone Walker
>> styled Blues, etc. Unfortunately most dealers in my area (Europe) don't
>> stock these guitars.
>snip
>
>> Are there any other recommendations?
Have a look at Harmony Central for what people think about your
various options.
Keith Freeman
> Walker styled Blues, etc. Unfortunately most dealers in my area
> (Europe) don't stock these guitars.
Bone used to play) which I'd be willing to sell for EUR 900 (with a Kent
Armstrong P90 p/up thrown in if you're interested). I'm in Den Haag.
-Keith
Music samples, tips, Portable Changes at
http://home.wanadoo.nl/keith.freeman/
E-mail: keith dot freeman at wanadoo dot nl
MBR
> styled Blues, etc. Unfortunately most dealers in my area (Europe) don't
> stock these guitars.
>
> between the Epiphone Broadway and the Samick La Salle JZ 3. Has anyone
> compared these guitars directly?
>
> Do you consider these guitars as a viable alternative to the more expensive
> ones, or are they only pretty furniture, i.e. should I stick to my Strat ;-)
>
> Do these brands offer a pretty consistent quality these days or do I have to
> be very cautious to not receive a lemon (I will most likely have to buy the
> guitar by mail order)?
>
> I thought/hoped another sleeper might be the Epiphone Elitist Broadway, but
> this instrument seems to cost nearly as much as a Heritage. IMO I do not
> play good enough yet to justify paying that much money for a guitar.
>
>
>
> -Peter-
=========================
I think the guitars you've mentioned would be very prone to feedback
when playing blues, unless you're playing at a fairly low volume. The
Epi Broadway is a Korean made box; I've played a few and was not
overly impressed with the feel and playability. The Elitist Broadway
is Japanese made and can be found in the states for about 1500, still
less than most Heritages, although you could easily find a used 575
for less. You might consider a semi-hollow guitar like a Gibson 335 or
135, or a Guild Bluesbird which is a "chambered" guitar as is the
Godin flat 5. The newer Gibson Es 137 classic is a decent semi-hollow
guitar for around 1200.
Zaca
> Some years back Duke Robilard used an Epiphone Joe Pass to play T-Bone
> style. Sounded good.
Hi,
I would like know that you mind about this Epiphone Joe Pass guitar,
and it original pickup ?
Really do you thing that Duke Robilard used an Epiphone Joe Pass ? Did
you seen he whis it ?
In last, do you know what sort of amplifier The Duke use with this one
?
Thaks a lot
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tomw
zaca...@wanadoo.fr says...
> Avec conviction, "tomw" a écrit :
> > Some years back Duke Robilard used an Epiphone Joe Pass to play T-Bone
> > style. Sounded good.
>
> Hi,
> I would like know that you mind about this Epiphone Joe Pass guitar,
> and it original pickup ?
I really don't know.
> Really do you thing that Duke Robilard used an Epiphone Joe Pass ? Did
> you seen he whis it ?
I saw him play it on more than one occasion. It was about twenty years
ago.
> In last, do you know what sort of amplifier The Duke use with this one
> ?
> Thaks a lot
>
IIRC Duke used Fender amps. He went through many different guitars
(mostly Stratocasters) and amplifiers, and I can't really recall what he
used with Epiphone, but I suspect it may have been a smaller amp such as
a Deluxe or Vibrolux. I don't know how he avoided feedback.
Greg D
news:mesnews.1b7e7d3c....@wanadoo.fr:
> Avec conviction, "tomw" a écrit :
>> Some years back Duke Robilard used an Epiphone Joe Pass to play T-Bone
>> style. Sounded good.
>
> Hi,
> I would like know that you mind about this Epiphone Joe Pass guitar,
> and it original pickup ?
Could use a replacement, in my opinion, for clearer tone. I used Seymour
Duncan '59 PAFs on mine.
Greg
gtrmon
But the Samicks are great guitars and well made, probably better
than the equivalent Epiphones.
"tomw" <tw25R...@cornell.edu> wrote in message
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gtrmon
Broadway it's likely the Samick is the better guitar. I love my Samick JZ4.
I can play it acoustically and it holds its own in projection against Tay
>
> I am looking for an "inexpensive" archtop ($700 - $1100) for T-Bone Walker
> styled Blues, etc. Unfortunately most dealers in my area (Europe) don't
> stock these guitars.
>
> between the Epiphone Broadway and the Samick La Salle JZ 3. Has anyone
> compared these guitars directly?
>
> Do you consider these guitars as a viable alternative to the more
expensive
> ones, or are they only pretty furniture, i.e. should I stick to my Strat
;-)
>
> Do these brands offer a pretty consistent quality these days or do I have
to
> be very cautious to not receive a lemon (I will most likely have to buy
the
> guitar by mail order)?
>
> I thought/hoped another sleeper might be the Epiphone Elitist Broadway,
but
> this instrument seems to cost nearly as much as a Heritage. IMO I do not
> play good enough yet to justify paying that much money for a guitar.
>
gtrmon
louder than the two prewar Epiphone archtops I tried, one of which was an
acoustic model and the other electric. An Olympic and a Triumph,
but hey, those Broadways and Deluxes are tough to come by. As a
matter of fact or rather opinion, I thought my Harmony Patrician sounded
much bigger and fuller than the Olympic as well. The off brand models
from back then all sound in about the same quality range as well until,
I assume, one gets to the top of the line Epiphones and Gibsons.
The Samick has a nice round tone with the mini humbucker floater too.
And I find myself playing way up the neck without thinking about it.
And that's all I need...
And the Epi Sheraton...
And this Westone Thunder II....
And this Gibson SG Pro...
And this cheap ol Regal small body flattop...
And that Epi Olympic I still want....
And the Patrician... iffy action but good intonation all the way up
and a great sound...
And my Suzuki Estrada Classical....
And my blond beauty Hohner....
And this ping pong paddle...
dj
Ugly
!!!!!!
tomw
says...
> Actually I think he played and still does some, an Epi Broadway.
> But the Samicks are great guitars and well made, probably better
> than the equivalent Epiphones.
>
than one occasion. This was back in the day -- approx 20 years ago. I
also saw him play an archtop with a palm tree painted on it.
Greg D
> Musicians friend is dumping 2 pickup (57 classic) es 135 guitars for $899
> !!!!!!
Yup, this is the end of those guitars. Gibson quit making them a year
ago and they've been selling out ever since to make room for the new
ES135 (really wished they had named it differently).
In 1998, Gibson introduced the ES135LE - dual humbucks and case. They
sold for $1600 back then and listed for about the same as the Howard
Robert Fusion III, though the HRF sold for considerably more.
In 2000-2002, Gibson dropped the LE designator from the dual humbuck
Es-135. moved production from Nashville to Memphis, and sometime in
2002, quit making them altogether, introducing instead the new
chambered body ES-135 semi-solid guitar.
The "old" 135's with dual humbucks have the gorgeous nitro finish, but
good luck finding a new one in Bluesburst (absolutely gorgeous).
I own 2 of them (VSB and Bluesburst) and love 'em - one for jazz, the
other for rock/blues.
Of course, you've gotta wonder if the new ones for sale now are the
bottom of the barrel and whether or not that affects quality.
They're such a good deal, I'd take a chance anyway and return it if it
wasn't top notch.
Greg