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Pt

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Oct 2, 2006, 11:53:38 AM10/2/06
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I never thought too much of gear being heavy till lately.
Just getting old and lazy.
My main guitar amp is a Marshall half stack.
I love the sound but I don't love carrying it up and down stairs.
Small tube amp coming soon.
But my biggest gripe is bass stuff.
I probably gig with my bass more than I do with guitar.
Now I would love a tube SVT and an 8X10 cab but it would take a semi
and 16 strong men to move it around.
Not to mention about $4,000.
As it stands I am using a Peavey CS800 power amp that weighs more than
I want to lift.
Not to mention the 4X10 and 1X15 cabs.
I am thinking of buying a Behringer 450 watt bass head.
I have a Behringer mixer and a Virtualizer Pro that I am happy with.
They sound good and hold up well.
I am thinking of buying a BX4500H bass head.
What do you think of this head?

Pt

PS.
The Behringer amp is like my ex-wife.
Small, loud and cheap!

Bob Ross

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Oct 2, 2006, 5:33:54 PM10/2/06
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Well, I feel your pain...I'm primarily a bass player, and after 32+
years of dragging refridgerator-sized rigs all over town, I finally
conceeded to middle age [sic] a year ago and bought an Acoustic Image
Focus1 head and some FliteSound speaker cabinets. I now have a 600 watt
stack that I can take on the subway (!) or walk down the street
carrying (for a few blocks at least). It sounds *almost* as good/loud
as an SVT for the rock gigs, and arguably better than an SVT for jazz
and theater gigs (plus it fits in the pit). But most importantly, I can
keep carting my own stuff for several more decades!

You probably won't find too much love for Behringer stuff around here,
but I salute your desire to "lighten up"

SJHust

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Oct 2, 2006, 5:47:59 PM10/2/06
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Well, our bass player (electric and double) ordered a Behringer (a
smaller combo, 150 watts I think) and a Galien-Krueger from a place
that would deliver both and take one back. Comparing them side by side
there was no comparison, the Behringer lost hands down. Lifeless,
muddy.
Of course the GK was twice as expensive.

steven

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Oct 2, 2006, 10:15:27 PM10/2/06
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I've been in the same boat. I recently down sized a GK 800 RB and
SWR 200 PB with Ashley Preamp rig (running through 2 custon 12 cabs
with horns) for my electric and upright bass rigs. I hated to get rid
of all of that stuff, but it was not easy to play and upright gig and
get all of my equipment to the gig. I bought a Behringer BX1200. I'm
definitely not satisfied. Muddy with very little clarity for my
upright, so I use it with electrics. My electrics are ok though it,
but I have some kind of ground problem with the direct out and I get a
lot of hassle from the sound guys now when I use it. Also, it's way
heavier than I thought it would be (kind of defeats the purpose of the
combo in my opinion). Going with this amp was not the best move, but I
got my money's worth from the GK and the SWR.
I'm probably trading Behringer in on a Hartke. I haven't decided
on the 2500 head (which doesn't have a direct out--which is strange) or
the A 100 combo, which I got great results from using active 5 string,
passive 4 string and acoustic basses today (and I can carry it).
For upright I'm sticking with acoustic image. Although I'm trying
to settle on a speaker that sounds good with upright and guitar.

--Eric Elias

Marc

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Oct 3, 2006, 11:48:38 AM10/3/06
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Wow, do you need a monster rig like that??
Of course, there's always Walter Woods, if you have the money or time.

Carvin in California http://www.carvin.com is still making some nice
bass heads, and they're going for the "small and loud" vibe now, too.

Cab-wise, check out the 1-12" or 2-12" bass cabs from Earcandy.
http://www.earcandycabs.com You will throw away your other cabs, and
then you'll buy their guitar cabs, too!

Good luck!
Marc

icarusi

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Oct 3, 2006, 7:36:35 AM10/3/06
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"Pt" <pea...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I love the sound but I don't love carrying it up and down stairs.

A lot of the 'standard rock' kit was developed for bands who already
employed roadies, so best for at least two young fit people to move, or
older people used to regular weight lifting rather than the occasional lug.

icarusi
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