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Guitarist? Julie London: What'll I Do

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OldJazzBass

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May 3, 2003, 4:49:53 PM5/3/03
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Just heard this on the radio in my car... sounds like a jazzer playing a
nylon.. voice and guitar only... tasty... who is it?

BREZ9091

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May 3, 2003, 5:43:02 PM5/3/03
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i know barney kessell played on many of her sessions. julies' husband was a
big jazz nut. her husband was?....no shite...joe friday himself, jack webb, of
dragnet fame. julie was HOT...

Ron

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May 3, 2003, 7:49:16 PM5/3/03
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Yeah, I think that was Barney Kessel on that cut. Howard Roberts did some
other stuff with her too. Great stuff!


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Pat Smith

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May 3, 2003, 9:03:23 PM5/3/03
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Julie was married to Booby Troup. They worked together on the TV show
Emergency.

Don & Heidi

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May 4, 2003, 12:34:26 PM5/4/03
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Booby Troup? That's harsh. The man wrote "Route 66" (the song,
not the series).
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Gerry Scott-Moore

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May 4, 2003, 12:48:02 PM5/4/03
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In article <0AYsa.39081$Ye6.2...@twister.socal.rr.com>, Ron
<see_it@hear_it.org> wrote:

> >i know barney kessell played on many of her sessions. julies'
> >husband was a big jazz nut. her husband was?....no shite...joe
> >friday himself, jack webb, of dragnet fame. julie was HOT...

Yes, she was hot. Some folk believe her cleavage sold more albums than
her voice. At least she had more tone than Peggy Lee, but that's not
really saying anything. But A/B her against Ella or any Sarah Vaughn
(or even such as Ronstadt or Anne Murray!) and marvel at the striking
lack of tonal presence. "Breathy" was considered a musical quality
back then...

> Yeah, I think that was Barney Kessel on that cut. Howard Roberts did some
> other stuff with her too. Great stuff!

She seemed to prefer guitarists to pianists. Dennis Budimer worked with
her as well as a few others. I don't recalled Kessel every playing
nylon string. Did he?

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Holger Weber

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May 4, 2003, 12:55:57 PM5/4/03
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"Gerry Scott-Moore" <222...@adelphia.net.invalid> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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Too lazy to look it up, but doesn't he play some nylon string on "Some Like
It Hot"?


Michael Evans

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May 4, 2003, 1:49:01 PM5/4/03
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The guitarist is Al Viola from an album called Lonely Girl - all just guitar
(Viola) and voice. She made at least
two other albums that featured guitarists - Julie Is Her Name with Barney
Kessel (Red Mitchell on bass) and Julie Is Her Name II
with Howard Roberts (Red Mitchell on bass). Also she made a recording with
Bud Shank that featured Joe Pass on guitar. All
of these recordings have great guitar on them.

She never considered herself a jazz singer and perhaps her voice was
limited, but I think overall she was very musical
and I enjoy her singing. Her husband Bobby Troup probably contributed a lot
to this as well as he was often arranger/producer/pianist
on her records. She was "marketed" based on her looks but her music stands
up in my opinion. Somehow I happen to know she was married to Jack Webb at
one time too. This does, however, exhaust my info about her.

Mike


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Randy Graves

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May 4, 2003, 2:25:00 PM5/4/03
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My copy of Julie Is Her Name lists "Ray Leatherwood" on bass! (Let's
see, what color is Leather? What color is Wood? Conflicting
Contractual Obligations, perhaps?) Hmm, maybe it was Red leather /
Redwood, after all...

Michael Evans wrote:

>. . . She made at least

Alexei Aganin

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May 4, 2003, 3:41:19 PM5/4/03
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"Randy Graves" <rwgr...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> My copy of Julie Is Her Name lists "Ray Leatherwood" on bass! (Let's
> see, what color is Leather? What color is Wood? Conflicting
> Contractual Obligations, perhaps?) Hmm, maybe it was Red leather /
> Redwood, after all...

That was Ray Brown on the first LP.


Mark Cleary

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May 4, 2003, 6:48:06 PM5/4/03
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I will tell one of the guitarist she used was a great chord melody player
and great but unknown. He was Johnny Gray. Gray was originally for Oklahoma
and then worked alot with my old guitar instructor Fred Rundquist based in
Chicago.

Gray was a master at chord melody and I have a recording of him and Julie
London doing the theme to Mickey Mouse Show. No joke! He plays this silly
tune and she really sings the verse. John Gray made it sound like a master
piece. I think he really specialized in backing singers. He did an albumn
with Herb Ellis too.

Another little bit of information about Gray ( he died in 1977). He played
an Albanus Guitar made by Carl Albanus Johnson of Chicago Illinois. He also
later used at Barker guitar. He and Bill Barker were good friends and gig
together on some road trips. I have many stories about Johnny Gray but will
not bore the group.

Gray was not well know but just ask Ron Eschete about Johnny Gray and he can
tell you what a fine player he was. He really like a nice handmade guitar
and basically is responsible for getting Albanus guitars on the map. They
are around but few. I have one from his early days in 1961 and it sounds
great with plenty of guts and voice.


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Michael Evans

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May 4, 2003, 8:12:19 PM5/4/03
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Oops - working from memory rather than checking. My CD copy (contains both
albums) does indeed say Ray leatherwood on bass
on Julie Was her Name and Red Mitchell on bass on Julie Was her Name II.

Mike

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Gerry Scott-Moore

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May 5, 2003, 2:18:34 AM5/5/03
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In article <Mncta.738$vS4....@news20.bellglobal.com>, Michael Evans
<mev...@utstat.utoronto.ca> wrote:

> The guitarist is Al Viola from an album called Lonely Girl - all just guitar
> (Viola) and voice.

Great tip, Michael. Thanks. Not enough Viola in my collection...

Gerry Scott-Moore

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May 5, 2003, 2:22:13 AM5/5/03
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In article <XBgta.28481$xf....@fe01.atl2.webusenet.com>, Mark Cleary
<mcl...@highstream.net> wrote:

> I will tell one of the guitarist she used was a great chord melody player
> and great but unknown. He was Johnny Gray. Gray was originally for Oklahoma
> and then worked alot with my old guitar instructor Fred Rundquist based in
> Chicago.

Funny you should mention Gray. I bumped into him on a recording on
some odd label, perhaps not even under his own name, but I think it
was. Anyway it was Caravan. I was no where near being a jazz guitarist
at the time, and had only recently discovered Benson. But I thought he
was really interesting. I wondered recently what had happened to him,
or if there was any really good representative works.

> Gray was a master at chord melody and I have a recording of him and Julie
> London doing the theme to Mickey Mouse Show. No joke! He plays this silly
> tune and she really sings the verse. John Gray made it sound like a master
> piece. I think he really specialized in backing singers. He did an albumn
> with Herb Ellis too.
>
> Another little bit of information about Gray ( he died in 1977). He played
> an Albanus Guitar made by Carl Albanus Johnson of Chicago Illinois. He also
> later used at Barker guitar. He and Bill Barker were good friends and gig
> together on some road trips. I have many stories about Johnny Gray but will
> not bore the group.
>
> Gray was not well know but just ask Ron Eschete about Johnny Gray and he can
> tell you what a fine player he was. He really like a nice handmade guitar
> and basically is responsible for getting Albanus guitars on the map. They
> are around but few. I have one from his early days in 1961 and it sounds
> great with plenty of guts and voice.

Thanks for the info. I had looked him up a week or two ago on
allmusic.com and there was bupkiss. As a recovering Okie, I'm curious;
do you know what town he was from?

thomas

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May 5, 2003, 9:59:58 AM5/5/03
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brez...@aol.com (BREZ9091) wrote in message news:<20030503174302...@mb-m07.aol.com>...

> i know barney kessell played on many of her sessions. julies' husband was a
> big jazz nut. her husband was?....no shite...joe friday himself, jack webb, of
> dragnet fame. julie was HOT...


Jack Webb is the guy that drugged and raped Mamie Van Doren.
Julie London was married to Bobby Troup, the singer/actor/pianist/
songwriter.

thomas

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May 5, 2003, 10:02:42 AM5/5/03
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Gerry Scott-Moore <222...@adelphia.net.invalid> wrote in message news:<040520030948021323%222...@adelphia.net.invalid>...

>
> Yes, she was hot. Some folk believe her cleavage sold more albums than
> her voice. At least she had more tone than Peggy Lee, but that's not
> really saying anything.

Peggy Lee is a far greater artist. Her lack of chops is analogous
to Billie Holiday's lack of chops--totally irrelevant. Julie London's
lack of chops is a problem, though.

> She seemed to prefer guitarists to pianists. Dennis Budimer worked with
> her as well as a few others. I don't recalled Kessel every playing
> nylon string. Did he?


I've never come across an example. If it's nylon, I think Budimir
would be a better guess than Kessel or Roberts.

Holger Weber

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May 5, 2003, 10:50:11 AM5/5/03
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"thomas" <tomb...@jhu.edu> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> I've never come across an example. If it's nylon, I think Budimir
> would be a better guess than Kessel or Roberts.

Barney plays nylon string on "Sweet Sue"

PhillyLegs4U

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May 5, 2003, 10:54:33 AM5/5/03
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What album does Julie do mickey mouse club on?
I LOVE her voice! Her first 4 albums were great guitar records. After
that, she went schmooze.
leggs

MBR

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May 5, 2003, 11:04:50 AM5/5/03
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> Yes, she was hot. Some folk believe her cleavage sold more albums than
> her voice. At least she had more tone than Peggy Lee, but that's not
> really saying anything. But A/B her against Ella or any Sarah Vaughn
> (or even such as Ronstadt or Anne Murray!) and marvel at the striking
> lack of tonal presence. "Breathy" was considered a musical quality
> back then...
=================================
Sounds to me like you could be speaking about Dianna Krall.

Mark Cleary

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May 5, 2003, 9:39:45 PM5/5/03
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Johnny had a stroke in about mid 70's. He was unable to play after that and
he died in a van crash outside of his hometown of Vinita Ok. He really was
down after the stroke and could not play at all according to Bill Barker. He
also from what I gather was a classic type A personlity and Barker told me
he would get really upset about red lights when driving a car. He also had a
problem with alcohol and that may have been his real downfall. Barker told
me he could still manage to play very well even when drinking. Not something
most players can do.


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made Hollenbeck Jazz guitars.
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