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Vintage Johnny SMith Strings: Any guess as to the string gauge ?

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steve

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Jun 23, 2009, 11:22:29 AM6/23/09
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110403376901&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:1123

The seller didnt answer my question (I hate that). The package says "medium
gauge", which Im guessing probably means 12 or 13 through...something.
Anyone have a better guess or actual information?

thanks,
steve
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"Hypocrisy is the homage vice pays to virtue."
Francois de La Rochefoucauld

Phil

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Jun 23, 2009, 11:27:44 AM6/23/09
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On Jun 23, 11:22 am, "steve" <st...@steve.com> wrote:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110403376901&ssPag...

>
> The seller didnt answer my question (I hate that).  The package says "medium
> gauge", which Im guessing probably means 12 or 13 through...something.
> Anyone have a better guess or actual information?
>
> thanks,
> steve
> --
> "Hypocrisy is the homage vice pays to virtue."
>                                      Francois de La Rochefoucauld


I can't answer that (your guess of .013 is good, though) but I think
the round wound with a flat wound 6th string is interesting.

Tim McNamara

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Jun 24, 2009, 12:21:57 AM6/24/09
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In article
<d5b65fb5-a343-4229...@r3g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>,
Phil <pdem...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Jun 23, 11:22�am, "steve" <st...@steve.com> wrote:
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110403376901&ssPa
> > g...
> >
> > The seller didnt answer my question (I hate that). �The package
> > says "medium gauge", which Im guessing probably means 12 or 13
> > through...something. Anyone have a better guess or actual
> > information?
>

> I can't answer that (your guess of .013 is good, though) but I think
> the round wound with a flat wound 6th string is interesting.

This doesn't remotely answer the OP's question but I thought it was
interesting. The 6th was often tuned to a D by Johnny Smith- he stated
that it was his usual tuning:

http://www.chipstern.com/chip_sound_jsfy.htm

�Ultimately I ended up using a flat-wound low E string on that
instrument. You see, I used three different tunings, but my standard
tuning was with the sixth string tuned down to D, and I had to come up
with an extra-large gauge to accommodate that. Everything else was
normal. Another tuning I employed was with the sixth, the E string,
down to D, and the fifth string, the A string, down to G. Then on some
solos I used your standard E minor tuning. But it was the D tuning,
that was my normal tuning. And so I employed a flat wound sixth string
because with a round wound, number one, you got a lot of noise, and
secondly, it had a nasty habit of chewing up guitar picks. Problem was
that in the early days, the quality of flat wound strings was terrible;
intonation was terrible�I used to prop the strings up off the neck and
take a water glass to take the edge off of the round wounds. Finally,
Black Diamond came out with a burnished string. You got the response
and the sweetness, but a little less noise. That was the #100 set, and
I used those for years, and when Black Diamond stopped making them I
bought up every set I could find in the country. That�s the only reason
I could think of having a U-Haul behind a hearse�to take my guitar
strings with me. There are a lot of good strings now, and the half-round
strings are very good, too.�

Black Diamond doesn't seem to make the #100 set any more but they make a
200L and 200M (.012 and .013 respectively). I suppose one could contact
Black Diamond and see if they still know what the #100s were, if they
really wanted to shoot for the Johnny Smith sound (of course you'd also
need a transplant of brain and hands).

dwabeslim

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Jun 24, 2009, 5:49:58 PM6/24/09
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Steve, I'm holding a set in my hands.
Gibson set no JS 40 "Johnny Smith" "nickel wound medium gauge"
they are 12 , 14, 23 wound , 31,42 all round wound
and 58 flat !!
2 plain 3 round wound and one flat wound 6th
they are nos strings
greg

Andy D

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Jun 24, 2009, 8:46:08 PM6/24/09
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On Jun 24, 12:21 am, Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net> wrote:
> In article
> <d5b65fb5-a343-4229-9fa2-a83e52d86...@r3g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>,


Interestingly enough, Chuck Wayne used to use the same nickel round
wound Black Diamond strings but a lighter gauge (11s)

Andy D

steve

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Jun 25, 2009, 9:56:02 AM6/25/09
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Thanks, Greg. Unique, and I like the big ass flatwound at the bottom. TI
12s only go to 50 or so.

Charlie X

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Jun 25, 2009, 10:10:55 AM6/25/09
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wow...cool! How did u type the message while holding those strings in
your hand?

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