working out and chops- a connection?
Mark Kleinhaut
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Mark Kleinhaut
Mark Kleinhaut
Notwithstanding the image that everyone here is a middle-aged balding fat
guy with thick glasses and two left feet, I'm wondering if anyone has found
some connections between physical fitness and the condition of their chops.
After years of, well, lets just say something less than emphasis in my life,
I joined a gym, hired a personal trainer and went on a good diet. In less
than two months I've lost 25lbs and feel better than I have in years. Many
years!. Anyway, my chops are taking off like a rocket too- and I don't just
mean speed, but really every aspect of playing just feels better than ever.
Hard to believe this shit is legal and was always available:) Anyone have
similar experience?
Mark Kleinhaut
sorry for the empty post(s)- there is one with actual text now posted:)
Gerry
<markkl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> After years of, well, lets just say something less than emphasis in my life,
> I joined a gym, hired a personal trainer and went on a good diet. In less
> than two months I've lost 25lbs and feel better than I have in years. Many
> years!. Anyway, my chops are taking off like a rocket too- and I don't just
> mean speed, but really every aspect of playing just feels better than ever.
> Hard to believe this shit is legal and was always available:) Anyone have
> similar experience?
I haven't had such experience, but it's not surprising. When
discussing artists, artistry and music it's easy to not that it's not
only dancers that have to depend on what is, in the end, physical
ability. Though one doesn't normally think of musicians as athletes,
that's exactly what we are. Our performance depends on physical
ability, however limited, and so such things as stamin and endurance
(particularly with brass players), precision of action, physical
response time--all that stuff comes into play.
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paul
for me, I get very annoyed and feel terrible if I can't work out. I'm
not really sure how it affects my chops, but sometimes being tired
after a long workout can loosen me up and make my playing more relaxed.
--paul
bob r
markkl...@hotmail.com wrote on 10/21/04 10:26 AM:
>
> Notwithstanding the image that everyone here is a middle-aged balding fat
> guy with thick glasses and two left feet, I'm wondering if anyone has found
> some connections between physical fitness and the condition of their chops.
>
> After years of, well, lets just say something less than emphasis in my life,
> I joined a gym, hired a personal trainer and went on a good diet. In less
> than two months I've lost 25lbs and feel better than I have in years. Many
> years!. Anyway, my chops are taking off like a rocket too- and I don't just
> mean speed, but really every aspect of playing just feels better than ever.
> Hard to believe this shit is legal and was always available:) Anyone have
> similar experience?
>
Actually, yes. I've lost a whole bunch of weight over the last ten months or
so. Back in November, I started a pretty intense program of physical
activity including cycling, boxing, circuit training, etc. I think one of
the best benefits for me has been an increase in general alertness; I seem
to be able to respond to what's going on in the music better and more
rapidly. Feeling better overall doesn't hurt either!
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Tom Walls
My reluctance to commit is based on the fear that it will eat up what
little spare time I have(and laziness, of course).
--
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the guy at the Temple of Zeus
Johnny Asia
<markkl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Anyway, my chops are taking off like a rocket too- and I don't just
>mean speed, but really every aspect of playing just feels better than ever.
> Hard to believe this shit is legal and was always available:) Anyone have
>similar experience?
>
Actually, I often wish I didn't have this music in my head so I could
devote more time to running, hiking and weights, and spare myself the
tedium of daily guitar practice.
I think of the music as a side benefit of health and wholeness.
Body, Mind and Spirit all benefit from taking good care of your
health.
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Jim Hopkins
It clearly helps if you're a trumpet or trombone player. I can't see it
hurting for guitar - or really for life in general.
Jim Hopkins
Paul Kirk
one thing that worries me about exercise as I get older is that exercises
that put stress on my arms or hands might negatively affect my playing. Thus
running or swimming is OK but I avoid exercise machinery, pushups, etc.
Every little bruise on my hand takes forever to heal, and I'm only 43.
I do run and the stress relief perhaps helps my playing but I ran a marathon
last Saturday and my chops still suck.
Paul K
On 10/21/04 9:36 AM, in article 211020040736074756%add...@domain.com,
GregD/OASYSCO
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>
> Notwithstanding the image that everyone here is a middle-aged balding
> fat guy with thick glasses and two left feet, I'm wondering if anyone
> has found some connections between physical fitness and the condition
> of their chops.
Absolutely not! You'd think that if one were disciplined enough to keep
in good physical shape that bleed over to hobbies. I am living proof
that it does not :)-
>
> After years of, well, lets just say something less than emphasis in my
> life, I joined a gym, hired a personal trainer and went on a good
> diet. In less than two months I've lost 25lbs and feel better than I
> have in years. Many years!. Anyway, my chops are taking off like a
> rocket too- and I don't just mean speed, but really every aspect of
> playing just feels better than ever.
Yes, my playing feels better as I climb out of the physical problems I
had related to back problems and then surgery, so on that point, I
agree.
I gues what you say is true on a relative basis for the same person, but
certinaly not as a comparison amongst different people.
> Hard to believe this shit is legal and was always available:) Anyone
> have
> similar experience?
Greg
icarusi
news:4177c71f$1...@127.0.0.1...
> I'm wondering if anyone has found
> some connections between physical fitness and the condition of their
chops.
I'm using the guitar playing as a therapy to overcome some motor skills
problems I was experiencing. I couldn't sign my name at one point. I'd lost
the motor skill to do joined up writing.
Icarusi
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JMK
news:BD9D3EA7.10352%pk...@indiana.edu:
>> I haven't had such experience, but it's not surprising. When
>> discussing artists, artistry and music it's easy to not that it's not
>> only dancers that have to depend on what is, in the end, physical
>> ability. Though one doesn't normally think of musicians as athletes,
>> that's exactly what we are. Our performance depends on physical
>> ability, however limited, and so such things as stamin and endurance
>> (particularly with brass players), precision of action, physical
>> response time--all that stuff comes into play.
>
>
Someone told me once that, if you want something to work well
when you're 70, you need to start strengthening it by the time
you're 40-45.
I had an easily-treated form of lymphoma 4 years ago. After that
I decided that it was time to get in shape. I don't think I lost
any weight but what I do have seems in a better position. :)
And I do think I play better, though I'm sure you'll find others
who disagree :)
JMK
spuho
<markkl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Yes, I see a definite connection. In my opinion this has much to do
with general muscle condition. Proper excercise keeps muscles active
in a good way and so they are better available when playing (what else
is for example picking motion than coordinated muscle activity?) I've
noticed this especially after learning trigger point massage, which is
about directly treating the troubled muscles in your body. After a
massage session playing is simply easier, because less tense muscles
are better in control.
JuhoS
Jack A. Zucker
syndrome. At times in my life, I've been extremely fit. After my spinal
injury, I have been relatively unfit for the past 2 years and I don't see
any difference in my chops.
Shawn Lane had arguably the best guitar chops in history and he was close to
350 LBS.
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Jack A. Zucker
examples of cats with heavy chops and heavy, err...Well, not exactly the
fittest folks in the world. :-)
Wes, Pass, Coltrane, Gambale, McCoy Tyner, etc.
I think there's definitely a connection between feeling good about yourself
and playing well though.
I once knew a guy who was a serious fitness buff and it actually interfered
with his playing because his muscles were tired.
Jaz
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spuho
<j...@jackzucker.com> wrote:
>I don't think there's a connection other than the feel good / play good
>syndrome. At times in my life, I've been extremely fit. After my spinal
>injury, I have been relatively unfit for the past 2 years and I don't see
>any difference in my chops.
>
>Shawn Lane had arguably the best guitar chops in history and he was close to
>350 LBS.
Hmm.. interesting. But actually I was just talking about the muscles
of the hand(those which take an active part in the playing process),
not about the general fitness. The reason I think so is that when I
nowadays practise technical stuff, after a while the muscles of my
hand really start loosing up and I also feel generally good elsewhere
in my body(for example my posture gets better). But I could be wrong..
you're the one who has the chops here, not me(at least I don't have
them yet)
JuhoS
Stephan Patterson
(Johnny Asia) wrote :
>Johnny Asia, Guitarist from the Future
>http://johnnyasia.info
Johnny,
I checked you site and downloading music from it is painfully slow.
But I did manage to download the song "Music of the spheres" a few
weeks ago and I like it a lot. What would you call this kind of music?
Can you tell us a bit more about the song, how it came about, how it
was recorded, overdubs, etc.?
Stephan Patterson
a wandering frank
>I was just thinking about this some more and I can think of a bunch of
> examples of cats with heavy chops and heavy, err...Well, not exactly the
> fittest folks in the world. :-)
>
> Wes, Pass, Coltrane, Gambale, McCoy Tyner, etc.
Ellington, Cannonball Adderley, Art Tatum, Ray Brown, Albert King, B.B., ...
Dangit, Kleinhaut, I was doing an excellent job of not riding my bike
through blaming the rainy weather. >:-[
I believe in the endorphin rush plus relaxation theory, though.
Like Paul, I'm getting grumpy and irritable (more than usual). But so far
(*knock on wood*), I can still take exception to the balding and fat part of
your original post.
*cuts his dinner in half*
cheers,
Frank
Johnny Asia
<stephan....@videotron.ca> wrote:
>But I did manage to download the song "Music of the spheres" a few
>weeks ago and I like it a lot. >>
Thanks Stephan!
>What would you call this kind of music?>
Some here at RMMGJ call it "noodling". ;)
I don't know what to call it, I make up funny descriptions for my
various styles, "Funk from Pluto", "Anglo-Flamenco", "Radioactive
Bluegrass", etc
>Can you tell us a bit more about the song, how it came about, how it
>was recorded, overdubs, etc.? >>
My spiritual practice, (which, like my music, is a synthesis of
various traditions, with my own interpretation) involves fasting,
vision quests, visualizations, prayers, etc., and my music
comes to me at those times, usually during a fast.
The rest of the time in between fasts and vision quests, I spend
months trying to invent and perfect techniques so I can play the
music that comes to me.
That tune, and several others on the page, were all recorded in one
take in a friend's living room. I don't overdub. I use digital delay
and a combination of right & left hand techniques I've developed.
The notes will repeat differently, depending on how hard I pick,
whether I pick staccato or legato, etc. The notes repeated by the
delay intersect with the notes I'm picking. I play all the delay
pieces the same way every time.
Johnny
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Mark Kleinhaut
pope_about_town at Xyahoo.com (Johnny Asia) wrote:
>
>various traditions, with my own interpretation) involves fasting,
>vision quests, visualizations, prayers, etc., and my music
>comes to me at those times, usually during a fast.
>
jeez, why don't you just take drugs:)
thom_j
>>
>>My spiritual practice, (which, like my music, is a synthesis of
>>various traditions, with my own interpretation) involves fasting,
>>vision quests, visualizations, prayers, etc., and my music
>>comes to me at those times, usually during a fast.
>>
"Mark Kleinhaut" wrote:
> jeez, why don't you just take drugs:)
>
It is, in essence, isnt it? always curious tee'...
Johnny Asia
wrote:
>> pope_about_town at Xyahoo.com (Johnny Asia) wrote:
>>>
>>>My spiritual practice, (which, like my music, is a synthesis of
>>>various traditions, with my own interpretation) involves fasting,
>>>vision quests, visualizations, prayers, etc., and my music
>>>comes to me at those times, usually during a fast.
>>>
>
>"Mark Kleinhaut" wrote:
>> jeez, why don't you just take drugs:)
>>
>It is, in essence, isnt it? always curious tee'...
>
It's a much, much better high than drugs!
And, it's good for you too:
The Health Benefits of Fasting
http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/biology/b103/f02/web1/wcarroll.html
Besides, I took more than my fair share of drugs, back in the days.
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thom_j
>>It is, in essence, isnt it? always curious tee'...
>>
> It's a much, much better high than drugs!
>
> And, it's good for you too:
I hope you did 'not' think my comment was in the negative
coulmn Johnny as it was never intended to be! Remember
pheromones are drugs we produce by ourselves and fwiw
my theory of 'everything is energy' (in essence fermions) is
what I subscribe besides natural inner bio'chemical action.
> The Health Benefits of Fasting
> http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/biology/b103/f02/web1/wcarroll.html
>
>
> Besides, I took more than my fair share of drugs, back in the days.
So has, have or had, many others and this is everyone's
personal decision or path, if you will..
cheers thom_j.
Johnny Asia
wrote:
>
>I hope you did 'not' think my comment was in the negative
>coulmn Johnny >>
Not at all Thom.
Des Higgins
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> On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 13:22:23 -0400, "thom_j" <thom_...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>I hope you did 'not' think my comment was in the negative
>>coulmn Johnny >>
>
> Not at all Thom.
>
>
> +
>
> "The power of accurate observation is called cynicism
> by those who have not got it." - G. B. Shaw
>
Shaw was a very cynical man.
Des
Jim Kangas
feel, the better I play.
I've also developed a road bike fetish lately which is remarkably like
GAS. Biking involve lots of little primitive skills that seem simple
at first (everyone can ride a bike), but then you realize that you can
spend many years to really master them (like Lance Armstrong) - not
unlike jazz guitar.
-Jim
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bob r
kan...@tiac.net wrote on 10/29/04 12:43 PM:
> I've also developed a road bike fetish lately which is remarkably like
> GAS. Biking involve lots of little primitive skills that seem simple
> at first (everyone can ride a bike), but then you realize that you can
> spend many years to really master them (like Lance Armstrong) - not
> unlike jazz guitar.
And, as with guitar, there's an enormous variety of associated paraphernalia
available for purchase. I find myself zoning out with the Nashbar catalog
far too often...
--
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